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is this possible? wireless networking w/o router


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beantownmp

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ok guys here's my situation. i'm deployed in iraq and we have a wireless internet connection here. some of us have it some of us don't. a lot of us play counterstrike amongst eachother through the lan. thing is some of the cheapo's that don't want to pay for the internet want to play too. is there a way i can create my own wireless network where we can all connect and play counterstrike and other games? i thought i read something some where about Ad-Hoc networkign or w/e but i dont know how to do it. we dont have a wireless router or anything. we just pick up signal from the ISP here. i dont know if im asking a question to something that isn't possible or what. but any help would be appreciated. thanks!
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Hello beantownmp and welcome to G2G, :tazz:

First question is... What branch of Military are you in... If it's the Army, Navy, or Air Force I am Glad to say that Geeks to Go cannot Help you. If you are in the Marine Corps then I would be more than willing to help you, resolve your problem.

That was a joke, but I couldn't resist (Ex Marine - Semper Fi)... Now to the real questions... I will need the following information to better help you in establishing a stable network, for Counterstrike Gaming.


Please answer the following Default Questions, to get this ball rolling:


1) The Additional PC's that you are adding to the Gaming Network will only be used for gaming and Not Internet connectivity right... as that would be a violation of the G2G Terms of Service and most likely your ISP's Terms of Service also :) .

2) What type of exisitng network are we connecting to... Meaning is there another user down the hall who has internet through some Iraqi ISP... and he has installed his own wireless router....... OR....... the Base is transmitting its own wireless broadcast that each user may pay to use (IE - added to the access list).

3) On this existing network what type of ISP is it... DSL... Cable...?

4) What IP Configuration does the Network Use (Example.. DHCP, PPoE / Static, Automatic)?
..............How to find out: Go to any PC connected to the Network, Click on start, Type in: cmd .... or ... command : when the black screen appears type in: ipconfig /all :and hit enter. Copy the results back in your post (again for all pc's).

5) What is the Model and Manufacturer of the Router, Switch, or Hub we will be trying to connect through?

6) How many PC's will we be adding to this Network? And also answer the following Questions for each PC to be added to the Network:
..........(A) What operating System do you have on PC #1 through PC #255, Please include any Windows Updates or Patches (Example..XP SP1 or 2)?
..........(B) What is the Model and Manufacturer of the network card or Adapter currently
Installed on PC #1 through PC #255?
....................How to find out: Locate the MY COMPUTER icon and right click on it to select Properties.. on the "Hardware" or "Device" tab , click on the "Hardware" or "Device Manager: button, then scroll down to NETWORK ADAPTERS and copy down everything listed in this category.

PLEASE ANSWER QUESTIONs 1-6B THOROUGHLY, TO HELP ME PROVIDE A SOLUTION AND SETUP TO SUIT YOUR NEEDS.

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beantownmp

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haha so you're a jarhead eh? i won't hold that against you then :tazz:

here we go:

1) nope i'm not going to be sharing internet with anyone. just wanted to see if we could set up a network that the people who have internet and the ones who don't could use to play CS and other games.

2) there is an ISP here and they broadcast the wireless internet. they have various "hotspots" or whatever you'd want to call it near all the living areas on post. we all pay to use the internet, i'm not telling how much cause you guys would laugh that im paying it, but its overpriced to say the least. the service is very spotty. they don't allow http downloads or any p2p programs or online games such as party poker and things along those lines. java apps are disabled too. its pretty much used for instant messaging and emailing, but i have my ways around that :)

3) i believe they have 2 dedicated satellites that they run off of that gets its signal from hong kong.

4)

**PC 1**

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ROBERTS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-F8-58-D8

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A5-26-5C-22
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.0.0.207
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.0.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.0.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.0.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 18, 2006 7:52:15 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:52:15 PM

**PC 2**

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MICHAEL
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-7E-E4-35
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.xxx
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:12:54 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:12:54 AM

**PC 3**

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bush
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A5-44-33-0F
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.xxx
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:58:46 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:58:46 PM

**PC 4**

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : your-6bvpxyztoq
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP WLAN 54g W450 Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-48-10-EA
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.xxx
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:12:18 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:12:18 PM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor Corp. DP83815
/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-9D-82-7B-3C

**PC 5**

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Time-Killer
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
roller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-25-22-39-D8

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-DB-6E-B8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.xx
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:16:52 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:16:52 AM

**PC 6** (NOT CONNECTED TO INTERNET)


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bryant
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A5-5C-9E-6A

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Eth
ernet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-B8-8D-F8-0C


5) i dont have a clue. they have it in their office and its not exactly out in the open. i suppose i could ask them but they're closed right now.

6) All computers are using XP Home SP2. And about the network card/adapters, all the information i believe you are looking for follows the ipconfigs for each computer listed above. hope this is what you need to help me out. thanks!


tim

Edited by beantownmp, 20 March 2006 - 10:43 AM.

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Based on your IP Addresses I am guessing that PC's 1 through 5 are connected to the wireless broadcast and PC 6 is not (we will call this Network A). This leads to another question:

Q1... Can PC's 1 through 5 currently join a game that is being HOSTED by any PC's within Network A.

If so, we have the following options:


1. PC6 will have to use a wired cat5 connection and sit next to any of the 1 through 5 PC's in network A.
2. Any of the PC's in network A must have a second wireless card and be within fairly close proximity to PC6. (approx 100 FT)
3. Any of the PC's in network A must have a Wireless Network Bridge and again be within fairly close proximity to PC6 (approx 200 feet)


If not, than we have additional options... but thay are a little more difficult... so we will wait for your reply before getting in to them.

PS....

Go back to your last post and put "X"'s in place of the numbers for everything petween:
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

Like this....
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.x.x
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.x.
x.x

And also.... for your Physical Addresses
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :


Like this....

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx


We dont want those addresses getting into the wrong hands :tazz:

Edited by SpaceCowboy706, 19 March 2006 - 08:44 PM.

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