I have a Dell Dimension 8300 with XP Home with SP2.
USB Problem
#1
Posted 29 March 2006 - 08:23 AM
I have a Dell Dimension 8300 with XP Home with SP2.
#2
Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:40 PM
29th March 2006
BambaMel Welcome to Geeks to Go
That is quite a list but after breaking your post down into sections of Working USB & Non Working It appears that all Non Working USB Devices are relative to Mass Storage Devices
**Now I need to know if these Devices that are Non Working if they were Working & then became Nonworking**
(1)- Printer Card Reader Was this working at one time
(2)- The 3 USB Centon Flash Drives Did any work at one time (I would think so being that you have 3
(3)- Minolta still camera Did this work at one time
(4)- Scandisk flash drive Do you mean Physically Lost
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I can't figure out why some things work and some don't? Any ideas?
Your Dell appears to be rather new It has 8 USB Ports INTEL Chipset This should eliminate some of the earlier USB Anomalies However the 2 Front USB Ports are or could still be part of the Problem
The Front USB Ports in the past incorporated [Poorly designed Wiring Interface] and were only used for Low Powered USB Devices [<100 milliamps] and at least I believe subjected to EMI from Wireless Devices [??]
The 2 best USB Ports are the 2 Ports that are [Directly Hardwired with USB Connectors directly to the Motherboard] that have Shielding around them In your case you may have 4 USB Ports but more than likely the other 4 Ports may be cabled to Motherboard but better integration designed than the [Front Ports]
Also you seem to have enough USB Devices installed that you probably have a good understanding of the USB Installation Process so this probably eliminates anther common issue -
That is enough of What I think is not wrong .....
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I have noticed lately on the Flash Drives is the Sudden occurrences of these Devices to cease to function on certain Computers - & - Function on others
Microsoft has recently downloaded several Security Updates for [??] and I think I am beginning to piece a link together [??] between These Updates & Flash Drive Issues So it is PC related but appears to be OS Issues more than USB Anomalies
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I need you to run a search for these drivers and/or variations installed on your PC
1- secdrv.sys
2- sptg.sys
Search Process
1- Click [Start Button]
2- Highlight [Search]
3- Click [For Files & Folders]
4- Click [Advance Search] Options & Check [Search Subfolders] Box
5- Type secdrv* - in the [Search for files or folders named] input box
6- Click [Search Now] Button
7- Type sptd* - in the [Search for files or folders named] input box
8- Click [Search Now] Button
9- Post back all instances of these two searches for [secdrv.sys] & [sptd.sys] driver files
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I will give you another tool [Enhanced Device Manager] that will permit [Device Manager] to show the USB Device History Download the [Attachment]
02_Attachment_Device_Manager_Prep_for_Non_Present_Devices.doc 20.5KB 54 downloads
1-Now Open [Device Manager] Check [Show Hidden Devices] View Option
2-Expand all folders by clicking the [+] Box
3-Browse for more instances of [Problem Devices] [Unknown Devices] [Question Devices] and you should see more instances of your [Flash Drives] Check the Driver Details & Post back if you see any of the secdrv & sptd drivers showing up in any [Non Working USB Devices]
Jack123
Edited by Jack123, 30 March 2006 - 06:01 AM.
#3
Posted 29 March 2006 - 11:14 PM
Thanks for the reply. Yes the 3 Centon Datasticks and printer card reader have worked in the past. Then the data sticks began to work sometimes until not at all. The printer card reader still works independent of the PC. I can print photos using it. I just can't view them on the PC through it. About the same time my flash drives started being intermittent I also started getting the found new hardware wizzard everytime I rebooted. With a little isolation I determined it was the printer card reader. I just got the Minolta and it has never worked.
Yes the scandisk was physically lost.
Here are search results
SECDRV.INF C:\I386
SECDRV.SYS C:\I386
secdrv.sys C:\Program Files\SimThemePark
secdrv.sys C:\WINDOWS\$NtServicePackUninstall$
SECDRV.INF C:\WINDOWS\INF
SECDRV.PNF C:\WINDOWS\INF
SECDRV.SYS C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield Vietnam
SECDRV.SYS C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour
SECDRV.SYS C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Command & Conquer Generals
secdrv.sys C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles\i386
secdrv.sys C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS
search for sptg* and sptd* had no results
After using the Enhanced Device Manager steps and expanding all folders I see four more instances of USB Mass Storage Device and one MAXXUM 5D (Which is my Minolta). I don't see sptd.sys or secdrv.sys any where in the driver details.
#4
Posted 30 March 2006 - 09:07 PM
30th March 2006
Ok Here is the problem. I only stumbled onto this yesterday. It has to do with the Security Drivers that deal with the Games on your PC. Now I do not know for sure. but it may be coincidental with a Microsoft Security Update - that you recently downloaded & installed, or with some game problem/incident[??]
Can you link any Microsoft Updates or Game Incident to the Timeframe of Problem? I am not sure of the proper method of removing these drivers but what was done was to change the Extension from sys to old which would disable the drivers but you could change them back if removing messed up the games. I do not think that they are required for playing I think they lie dormant until a Security Breech [Real or Fiction] I think Microsoft may have a messed up Update which is pretty common for Bill Gate$[??]
The following sys drivers should be changed to old Extensions
secdrv.sys C:\Program Files\SimThemePark
SECDRV.SYS C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield Vietnam
SECDRV.SYS C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Command & Conquer Generals Zero Hour
SECDRV.SYS C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Command & Conquer Generals SECDRV.SYS C:\Program
You may have to reboot after making the changes and then try connecting your USB Mass Storage Devices [??]
Here are some links to study before messing with the drivers
http://www.macrovisi...isc/index.shtml
http://www.neuber.co...secdrv.sys.html
http://www.securityf...d/17070/discuss
SafeDisc is prone to a local privilege-escalation vulnerability. This issue is due to the failure of the application to restrict access to the configuration parameters of an installed service.
This vulnerability allows local attackers to execute arbitrary malicious code with SYSTEM-level privileges, facilitating the complete compromise of affected computers.
(http://www.securityf...rchive/1/427410)
I have a found a serious flaw in the well-known and widely deployed copy protection scheme SafeDisc.
The issues arrises from the how the installation of the driver secdrv.sys is managed. When installed, the associated driver service is assigned the SE_CHANGE_CONFIG flag, which means that any user is able to modify the start-up behaviour (automatic, manually, on-demand, system, boot).
Luckily the default installation of Windows XP which also ships the secdrv.sys driver (bad thing, Microsoft!) is not vulnerable.
The bad thing is that, not so well documented, it also allows the user to change the binary that is assiocated with that service.
The exploit is obvious: change the configuration to point at your binary, change the start-up behaviour to what you like (means: automatically, system or boot) and wait until the next reboot. Tadaa, full SYSTEM access.
This is just one instance of a well-known class of exploits. See these links for other known vulnerable services, detailed description and the srvcheck2.exe utility.
http://seclists.org/...6/Feb/0231.html
http://www.cs.prince...pers/winval.pdf
http://www.microsoft...ory/914457.mspx
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/16472
You now know as much as I do See if you can tie some kind of timeframe together If you can pass on any details concerning Games and Updates would be greatly appreciated
Jack123
#5
Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:45 PM
I changed the file extension to old for the secdrv files in my game folders and restarted.
No luck, still having the same problem.
I can't really tie the start of the problem to anything because I've been having this problem for several months now and had given up on it until I got the new camera and it has the same problem.
Things that could be related are
Installing an IEEE 1394 PCI card
Installing an ATI Radeon X700Pro video card
Had a problem with BattleField 2 (but was able to resolve/if I rember right it was a registery change)
I try to stay on top of Security Updates from MS and ussually install them soon after they are released.
I don't install all the optional updates.
#6
Posted 31 March 2006 - 05:24 AM
31st March 2006
Ok Try the Search Process again to see if the drivers were reinstalled after new Startup We may have to change or find the Origin/Source[??] In the meantime I will revisit my Sources on this development
Jack123
#7
Posted 31 March 2006 - 07:21 AM
I ran the search again and the files have not been recreated.
#8
Posted 31 March 2006 - 12:59 PM
31st March 2006
Ok Maybe I was just trying to use this newly found USB info on your USB Issues a little too eagerly [??]
I was shooting from the hip again Never works
Download the Free Home Edition of Everest from link below. This is a good Program that can analyze your PC See attachment For instructions on creating Everest Reports & Instructions on Attaching these reports to return Post I will review these reports and look for conflicts and other clues -
http://www.filehippo...d_everest_home/
See Attachment for Creating Reports Instructions & Attachment Instructions -
02_Instructions_EVEREST_Report_Attatchment.doc 31.5KB 39 downloads
Jack123
#9
Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:03 AM
Here are the reports. Thanks for all your help.
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