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Can't Run Some Java Apps


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I've done all of the steps in "Start Here", but I still can't get certain Java applications to run. Some will run, but others won't. A tech rep at one of my brokerages recommended I use Add/Remove in the Control Panel to remove Java and then reinstall it, but that didn't work. I also thought that maybe my Norton Internet Security may have been preventing it from running (I know it plays havoc on my Quicken program), but I removed it yesterday and still no luck.

An example is trying to run Trend Housecall. After accepting terms of use, my status bar says image is downloading, but the number remaining in parentheses keeps toggling up and down (17, 5, 10, 17, 13, etc.) and the page never loads.

I don't know if I (or some malware) adjusted my browser settings so certain Java programs can't run, or if there's something in my Windows program that prevents these apps from running. Any recommendations or advice will be greatly appreciated!

Edited by Rasman, 06 July 2006 - 12:11 AM.

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After using add / remove to uninstall Java, run disc clean up, click view files (downloaded programme files), check the active x controls have been removed

Click start then run, type prefetch then press enter, click edit, select all, right click any file, click delete, confirm, reboot

Install Java from here, using the online installer

http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
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Thanks for the reply. I ran disk cleanup, and when I viewed downloaded program files, I noticed one was damaged. On properties "general" tab, it says it's an Active X control file. Under "dependency", it lists 3 files, and of those, one is damaged (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\IUCTL.DLL). I haven't gone any further with your instructions in case I need to deviate from them in order to fix them. In short, what should I do from here? Thanks!
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Does it say what the name of the active x is
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Not that I can see, but then I might not be looking in the right place. The graphic next to it consists of the large yellow/red/blue diamond, with the three smaller diamonds to the right. What I have is this:

Type: ActiveX Control

Size: 4KB

ID: {9F1C11AA-197B-4942-BA54-47A8489BB47F}

CodeBase: http://v4.windowsupd...7642.5536111111

Version: 5,4,3630,2539

That's all I can find out about it. If there's somewhere else I should look besides under properties, let me know and I'll get the info. Thanks!
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Can you click here

http://update.micros...t.aspx?ln=en-us

Install any critical updates there, then check downloaded files for this

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Do you mean Downloaded Program Files in the Disk Cleanup? I have an icon that looks like that one, but it says MUWebContol Class, not WU....
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You can remove the update 4 then

You can run the rest of post 2
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Okay. I did everything and I've still got the same problem. Just to make sure, I did everything again, only this time cleaned out the recycle bin after doing the prefetch. Also, when I tried to download Java the second time around, I got an error message saying that there was a problem installing JRT on my machine. I've also had problems in the past trying to download stuff - could there be a problem with my download manager?

Appreciate all the help so far.... Thanks!
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Did you download the file to install it, or use their online installer

The online installer is OK
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I installed it from the link in post 2.

I've been looking at some websites for some of the applications, and some of them mention a having a selection you can edit under the advanced tab in the Java Console called Java Runtime Parameters. I've never found that in there. Or is there a difference between the Java Console and the Java Runtime Console?

Again, many thanks!
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Is it listed as Java runtime environment 1.5.0.7 in add and remove
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Not in those exact words - it's listed as "J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 7" in Add/Remove. When I go to Housecall, it tells me I need to Install Java, and it installs "J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0", and the program my brokerage uses installs "Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_03". So those are the three Java versions I have listed in Add/Remove.
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Remove the one housecall puts in, run housecall with the browser plug in
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I'm computer-stupid, so I'm not sure what you mean (by using the browser plug-in). When I click on Launch housecall, it begins downloading Java 5.0 - the first prompt I get is when I get asked if I accept the terms of use. I click cancel, and the status bar again toggles up and down on the items remaining to be downloaded.

Are we barking up the wrong tree maybe? I think there's something corrupted in my XP that keeps Java from downloading and running. Should I be looking at doing an XP repair/restore or an IE repair? Thanks!

Edited by Rasman, 07 July 2006 - 10:00 AM.

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