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$600 budget NO idea what to do :(


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tWiStEdArRow

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basically i need a computer for around 600-700 dollars which will be able to play atleast medium graphix games not something extreme but something decent. I dont know much about how and where to buy so i need ur help
my basic specifications are

1: processor AMD athalon or INTel pentium 4 HT 2.5=3.0 ghz
2: 1 gb ram any good type (no idea :/ )
3: 80gb hardrive 7200 rpm ( SATA if possible)
4 : a good video card pleez recommend
5: Lcd sceen if possible in budget or atleast a flat screen CRT moniter 17" minimum requirment
6: cd writer + reader and dvd reader (combo drive if its cheaper)


anything else u guys want to include or suggeest pleez do so. as i said for resell price i dont care i just want a comp the plays decent games nothin too advanced if it will last even 6-8 months for new games then i will just be using it for browsing, email etc.

oh and one more thing IF YOU THINK refurbished comps are good then pleez suggest them too.
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Will you be building this computer or would you rather have a prebuilt?
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i dont have a problem with either option but i just want the most out of my money. So if i can have a more powerful comp by building it myself i will do it. If the difference of prebuilt and built is under $50 then i would rather go for prebuilt since there is less waiting time and my bros birthday is in 1.5 weeks
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for $600 I would take a look at computers from hp or emachine. The ones in your price range will just about all have either a GeForce 6100 or 6150 LE. These are weak graphically but can play most current games at low settings and of course will be plenty powerful for basic tasks.

For a high performance pc I would build a new one.

SAMSUNG Black CD/DVD burner w/ Lightscribe:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151118

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119068

Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822135106

BIOSTAR TFORCE4 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX RoHs compliant AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813138028

connect3D 3058 Radeon X1900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814142068

FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN, 12cm FAN, version 2.0, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 450W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817104954

OCZ Value Series 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) System Memory
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227058

AMD Sempron 64 3400+ Manila 1600MHz HT 256KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819104313

$725.97 shipped; $625.97 shipped after the $100 connect3d video card rebate

All it'll need is a monitor and will play current gameso n high. Will be able to play new games well for at least a couple more years, with maybe a cpu upgrade to dual core, and a memory upgrade to 2GB.
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The monitor would be the kicker for that machine however. $725 is a great price for that in my opinion but monitors aren't just a couple o' bucks. If you need a LCD monitor, I would suggest downgrading the video card a bit, considering you want medium, not heavy power so the X1800 should do nicely.
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Hey Black Pandemic, I know this has nothing to do with this thread but I've read that you got your rig from cyberpower. I ordered a machine from them and I've been sweating cuz of all of the bad feedback I've seen floating about them. How was your experience with them?
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I would have to agree with MNOB07. You can find outstanding deals on E-machines and HPs through retail outlets if you take the time to shop around. Here is an example from circuit city:

http://www.circuitci...bundleDetail.do

The AMD Athlon 3800+ will be more than powerful enough to last your brother for the next few years and it includes 1GB of RAM and a monitor. The printer is just an added bonus. This is by no means the only option out there so look around. If he wants to play games then take the extra $100 and go to Newegg and order a Nvidia 6600 or 6800 and plug it in.

Good luck with your shopping. Also, let us know what you decide and how it turns out.

Edited by kidnova, 30 July 2006 - 08:39 PM.

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holly crap nice circuit city deal and i am reading the reply after i just went to fry's and got a $449 desktop with amd athalon 64 processor +3700, 1gb ram, 250 gb 7200 rpm hardrive, dvd and cd writer + reader. with a built in graphix card of ati radeon xpress 200 with upto 256 mb shared and a pci express slot. Circuit city is giving a printer and a dam crt moniter with a $320 rebate !!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow so final pice is$500 which is amazing. Well its only been5 hours since i got this comp lemme see if i can return it and look further into teh circuit city deal. cuz in both cases i will have to upgrade to a better VGA card.
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Sounds like you got a pretty good deal on the system you got as well. It sounds illogical, but I've found that often times you end up paying less for the package deals then you do for the pc alone. There isn't a huge performance gap between the 3700+ and the 3800+, so if you end up not being able to return in then you still got a good deal.

Also, here is the link to the Nvidia 6800 that I was talking about.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150152

It will be more than good enough to last for the next couple of years. At least until there are some reasonably priced DX10 cards out there.
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Kidnova, the DX10 cards will range from low-end to super-uber in price. I don't know why everyone thinks they'll be so expensive, they will be released as a series of cards, not just one super expensive one.

So right now, I say just buy something that will run games decently, but that's not on the high end. Kid suggested a good nVidia. For a decent (good but not expensive) ATI card, go with something like the X800 (not the GTO, that's the second worse of 5 versions). A X800 is also a lot cheaper than the X1900.

For monitors, I would check out Acer monitors (which I have). I had a Dell LCD but there was such terrible ghosting that it was only good for word processing. If there will be gaming done, find a very short response time (I believe my AL1951C has a 8ms response time).
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umm the vga by kidnova has a min requirment of 450w and the comp u recommended from circuit city has a 300w pwer supply so what wud this cost to upgrade to 450W ?
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depends a decent psu could cost up to 100 dollars. but you can get an ok one for around 50.
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