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#31
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Yeah if you build the exact same it would be cheaper but the advantage of buying yourself is you can put in better quality components because builders think about the bottom line they buy whatever they can get a cheap deal on regardless of how good it is you dont have to do that.
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F this. I'm going to MysteryByte.
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200- 239$
http://www.ncix.com/...manufacture=AMD

ASUS A8N-VM – 92.22$

Corsair XMS TWINX2048-3200C2PT PC3200 2GB 2X1GB DDR400 – 242.98$
http://www.ncix.com/...facture=CORSAIR

ATI Radeon X1800 XL 256MB 256BIT GDDR3 – 342.39$
http://www.ncix.com/...manufacture=ATI

Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive – 105$
http://www.ncix.com/.....stern Digital

Antec Sonata II Black w 450W PS – 119.14$
http://www.ncix.com/...nufacture=ANTEC

Samsung SH-W162 16X DVD+-RW 5X Dual Layer DVD Writer Black – 46$
http://www.ncix.com/...facture=Samsung

Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Music 24BIT Sound Card – 139$
http://www.ncix.com/.....Creative Labs

TOTAL: 1324$

This system owns your config, but it's ur money so w/e

Edited by †Gladiator†, 02 August 2006 - 07:26 AM.

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Make a link to the mobo.
This whole thing is really anoying because lots of people at home say I should stay with MB and you guys say these places. The reason why is probally because I know that MB has a great reputation and i've been taking to them for a long time with great answers from them.
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k, clearly the people at home no more than a forum dedicted to computer technology. go to mysterbyte. we arent telling you where to buy, we're here to suggest what to buy and why. in the end its your choice.
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the mobo link is inside the cpu page, under the bundle deals.

Well one thing you can do is supply MB with the specs i gave you and see how much they'd charge and that will give you a good idea of actual price differences. I shop locally too but i use ncix as a price guide. My local store BM bench mark prices mactchs and can actually beat NCIX on most items plus there's no shipping charge. The decision is yours, but with your current setup the computer is mid range at best... with the specs i supplied you can get a highend system for about the same price.

BTW. we are just trying to help.... no one is gaining anything by confusing you. plus your local computer store is selling you something so their honesty is questionable (i might be wrong, and they could be very nice folks). A question you have to ask yourself is...... Are you confident enough to assemble your own rig, do you want continous support on your computer? What do you wanna do with the computer? Gaming? Media Center? Or just daily usage.

Edited by †Gladiator†, 02 August 2006 - 09:24 AM.

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Thanks, I was feeling very pressured and cornered into a wall. I'm going to use the computer for just about everything. Uploading pictures to hardcore gaming.

Also, this computer is going to be paid by me painting the house this summer, which i'm doing right now. I get paid $8.50 an hour, so money isn't a huge deal to me.

I really want to go to MysteryByte for some strange reason. I really don't know why. Maybe because I can ask them everything about my system quote and such. I could get them to tell me anything.

Edited by zestron, 02 August 2006 - 12:06 PM.

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Like i said earlier they usually are great at stores but given the fact that you have a basic knowledge of computer technology there really is no need to use them, its like me calling a taxi to go get milk when i can drive myself in my own car, doesnt make sense on that kind of perspective. Like i said criteria for buying prebuilt A. cheaper than you can do yourself(in that case i would just buy the parts from them personally but thats up to you) or B. they offer something special( eg there are lots of custom builders in the UK and for the most part the big ones offer something special eg Scan offers custom designed cases and cooling with some of there own software this would make them a choice if i wanted something special, armari make super overclocked systems with hand built water cooling, Evesham offer very low prices and good warranties and software, lots of reasons but if its just someone putting parts together while i can do that myself and its fun i dont want to let others do it).

If they can give you it cheaper go with them otherwise get what you can where you can for less ordering on line is ridiculously simple it will take 15 mintues to order the parts once you have decided what you want.

I would probably stick with the 7600GT save the cash on the gfx card for DX10.

And by not going to mysterybyte you can get A. a better case and B. most important a high quality PSU a poor quality PSU is just asking for trouble.

IF you can ask anything, HAGGLE get your system cheaper.

Edited by warriorscot, 02 August 2006 - 12:10 PM.

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Lol, I really don't want to put my computer thogether. Does infonec or that other place put it thogether for you?
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im pretty sure they do. i think its either Pc Canada or Infonec thats puts the parts togethr for free, cant remember exactly which store.
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Yep, Infonec does testing and assembly for $50. Anyways. I made the same system on Infonec that I made on MysteryByte and it actually ended me up with about $100 more. Also, the system was a little worse... Explain this...

1 x PC ASSEMBLY AND TESTING (PRE-CONFIG OS IF PURCHASED)
1 x ASPIRE X-PLORER 17IN ATX TOWER CASE 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT 2X80MM FAN WINDOW LCD TEMP. DISP. BLACK
1 x AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Processor Socket AM2 Orleans 2.4GHZ 2000FSB 512KB L2 Cache 62W 90NM Retail Box
1 x Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM
1 x MSI K9N NEO-F ATX Nforce 550 AM2 DDR2 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA Sound GB LAN Motherboard
1 x OCZ Special Ops PC2-5400 1GB 2X512MB DDR2-667 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
1 x Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB SATA2 7200RPM 8MB 8.9MS Hard Drive 3 Year MFR Warranty
1 x MITSUMI FA404A 7-IN-1 FLOPPY DRIVE & FLASH Reader CF/SM/SD/MMC/MS BEIGE
1 x XFX GeForce 7600 GT XXX 590MHZ 256MB 1.6GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I TV-OUT SLI Ready Video Card
1 x Antec SP-500 Smartpower 2.0 ATX12V2.0 20/24PIN 500W Power Supply
1 x Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Music 24BIT Sound Card
1 x NEC ND-3550A DVD+RW 16X8X16X DVD-RW 16X6X16X DL 8X/6X IDE 2MB Burner Black OEM W/ SW

$1,290.48 + TAX + Shipping =
1591.53!!!!

MysteryByte's cost was like $1340.00!!!
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here are the reasons. u got a different case, which im pretty sure cost you more. and you also upgraded to different RAM, in the other rig u picked VALUE ram, this is not. hence the price goes up. and im pretty sure that. and u also picked the antec smartpower 500watt. u only ned 450watt. here is a better one.

http://www.infonec.c...l...il&id=13860 $67

http://www.infonec.c...l...il&id=16850 $135

http://www.infonec.c...l...il&id=17725 $159

http://www.infonec.c...l...tail&id=509 $179

http://www.infonec.c...l...il&id=10855 $122

http://www.infonec.c...l...ail&id=8612 $95

http://www.infonec.c...l...ail&id=1147 $8.50

http://www.infonec.c...l...il&id=16726 $205

http://www.infonec.c...l...ail&id=8583 $66

http://www.infonec.c...l...ail&id=9930 $129

http://www.infonec.c...l...il&id=15815 $45.50

$50 for assembly

Total: $1261 + Tax + Shipping

$1452.54

thats not alot considering what your getting. the reason why its like $70ish more is because the mobo is a better version of the k9n, its the SLI Platinum, but if u insist on the neo4-f, just go to PCCanada, they have it for like $100.
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I also want to have a SD card reader in the Floppy Drive. And I want a case that don't look like [bleep]...
I was also using NCIX.com

Edited by zestron, 02 August 2006 - 02:46 PM.

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uh.....so you want a case that looks all flashy, childish, and too crowded, rather than sleek, stylish, and sophisticated. by all means go ahead. but remember that you do not pick a case just because its looks good. you also have to see what material its made of, air flow, etc.
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It always baffles me why in North america they never actually put the tax in the price of things its just so ridiculously stupid its not like tax is going to suddenly change, Is the mysterybytes including tax that cant be write even with the deals they can make on parts if they are selling it for less than that with similar components they must make a loss or no profit on the system as they dont get that good discounts. Remember to factor in the audigy 4 is like a quarter of the price of the x-fi.

Your OS dont get Pro get MCE or home youll be wanting DX10 and vista so no point wasting the cash now on a ridiculously expensive OS.

Have to say i agree with Tru Techie about the case its pretty crap case, to me it doesnt look good alot of its personal choice but alot of people i know who pick cases of that type(looks on the gawdy side and over function) usually regret it later and wish they got the simpler but functional case and the nice thing about the simple cases they are easy to add things on and they can also be removed later which means you arent stuck with gawdy looks, although i dont agree on the cav5 the first gen of cav5s like that one i dont like i prefer the 530s if you are getting a cav 5. Or get an Antec with the PSU that saves alot of cash.
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