[MsSmilie]

Irish company challenges scientists to test 'free energy' technology

An Irish company threw down the gauntlet on Friday to the worldwide scientific community to test a technology it has developed that it claims produces free energy.

The company, Steorn, says its discovery is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy -- a concept that challenges one of the basic rules of physics.

It claims the technology can be used to supply energy for virtually all devices, from mobile phones to cars.

Steorn issued its challenge through an advertisement in the Economist magazine this week quoting Ireland's Nobel prize-winning author George Bernard Shaw who said that "all great truths begin as blasphemies".

Sean McCarthy, Steorn's chief executive officer, said they had issued the challenge for 12 physicists to rigorously test the technology so it can be developed.

"What we have developed is a way to construct magnetic fields so that when you travel round the magnetic fields, starting and stopping at the same position, you have gained energy," McCarthy said.

"The energy isn't being converted from any other source such as the energy within the magnet. It's literally created. Once the technology operates it provides a constant stream of clean energy," he told Ireland's RTE radio.

McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on".

One of the basic principles of physics is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change form.

McCarthy said a big obstacle to overcome was the disbelief that what they had developed was even possible.

"For the first six months that we looked at it we literally didn't believe it ourselves. Over the last three years it had been rigorously tested in our own laboratories, in independent laboratories and so on," he said.

"But we have been unable to get significant scientific interest in it. We have had scientists come in, test it and, off the record, they are quite happy to admit that it works.

"But for us to be able to commercialise this and put this into peoples' lives we need credible, academic validation in the public domain and hence the challenge," McCarthy said.

http://www.steorn.ne...ge/Default.aspx

Edited by MsSmilie, 20 August 2006 - 06:03 AM.

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This is either a hoax or the guy is just too stupid to figure out how it worked or is to cheap to hire the people to work it out for him and say its good, if its real it wont work on the way hes selling it hes doing that to incite a furore because energy conservation is a law of nature its one of those things you cant sircumvent and if it were actually possible things that work would suddenly not be understandable newtonian and relativistic mechanics would become suddenly meaningless and there is to much evidence on the contrary for that to be true.

He mentions something about magnetic field interaction its possible it merely harnesses a changing magnetic field which we are bombarded with and pump out ourselves constantly so its a EM wind generator that would be vaguely feasible and fit in with the hints but it certainly doesnt defy energy conservation it cant possibly if it did it wouldnt be in the economist it would be talk of the world long before now and most likely seized by a government body for testing and regulation.

[warriorscot]

This is either a hoax or the guy is just too stupid to figure out how it worked or is to cheap to hire the people to work it out for him and say its good, if its real it wont work on the way hes selling it hes doing that to incite a furore because energy conservation is a law of nature its one of those things you cant sircumvent and if it were actually possible things that work would suddenly not be understandable newtonian and relativistic mechanics would become suddenly meaningless and there is to much evidence on the contrary for that to be true.

He mentions something about magnetic field interaction its possible it merely harnesses a changing magnetic field which we are bombarded with and pump out ourselves constantly so its a EM wind generator that would be vaguely feasible and fit in with the hints but it certainly doesnt defy energy conservation it cant possibly if it did it wouldnt be in the economist it would be talk of the world long before now and most likely seized by a government body for testing and regulation.

[MsSmilie]

I'm not discounting it yet. I'm being open minded on it.

On the website forum, several people have been creating 90% of their home energy using this for years.

[warriorscot]

I dont discount that it may indeed work however it doesnt operate as he implies by creating energy from thin air and defying energy conservation, and to be honest people on a forum arent exactly the best evidence for something actually working.

As a scientist myself im highly doubtful of it at least in the way he describes it and how it magically works. Why issue a challenge for verification but offer no details on how it works the device will be patented so showing some of the details of its design and operation, what was this side project why isnt there more evidence of it anyone with a basic knowledge of physics would be highly interested in how it works.

[MsSmilie]

Time will tell. I've registered to receive updates.

It could be nothing, or could be a whole new ballgame!!!

Now watch....if it does work, some creep will make a weapon from it!

[fleamailman]

Sounds odd to me, first one publishes a paper and then ones findings are challenged. Where is the paper, what are the findings and which type of scientist are being sought here?

Details and a link please.

[MsSmilie]

The link is at the bottom of my original post.

[fleamailman]

Sorry the link doesn't link me to a paper on the details of this technology, is there one or am I missing something in the link page as I would perfer not to sign up something without first having a good read.

[MsSmilie]

Downloads tab has a white paper to download, but if you won't register then you are out of luck.

You'll have to direct any further questions directly to them.

[frantique]

I'm with you MsSmilie. Having an open mind though, I believe, does not necessarily mean an invention like this will see the light of day.
There have been many other inventions for free energy which have been proven to work and which have come to nothing due to lack of funding - gravity engines and the like.
The problem being that such inventions (and not just for free energy) are so revolutionary that they can threaten existing technologies. Do we really believe the large technology companies are doing what they do to make our lives simpler and less expensive? Or are they merely interested in making profits?
What would really happen on a world scale if we could run our cars for nothing, never have to recharge our phones, never have to pay power bills? Just imagine the number of businesses that would become redundant and the number of people out of work.
My open mind suggests this may be the reason Stoern have done what they have in issuing a challenge rather than in publishing in the usual scientific way. Those who have gone before and now gone!
Scott, as a scientist, do you truly believe there is no suppressed science for the sake of the dollar? Perhaps if you try following the funding of the scientific community and its educational facilities you might consider there could be a different picture to what you are being taught or perhaps not taught.

Edited by frantique, 20 August 2006 - 08:04 PM.

[admin]

One of the basic principles of physics is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change form.

Unless they're also rewriting the rules of physics, what they're claiming is impossible: Conservation of Energy (thermal dynamics)

You simply can't get more energy out of a system than you put into it.

[frantique]

And .... once upon a time all the scientific minds of the day thought the earth was flat!

[admin]

It depends on where you're standing.

[frantique]

Or could it depend on your lean?

Remember that 99% of scientists today repeat what they "know" from something they read. So there are VERY FEW of them that have first hand information regarding what they are spewing. I call them "Text Book Geniuses". They can regurgitate what they have read but few have taken the painful route to research the many issues for themselves. Ph.D.s all lined up in a row saying the same things does not make "science" ... it makes a mutual admiration society club house where popular vote wins ... not the scientific method ... and since they have long since eliminated the "competition" they are free to say whatever they want unopposed.

James M. McCanney

And those who oppose the mainstream beliefs do not get the PhDs, do not get published, and do get ridiculed.

[frantique]

Sorry got a bit off topic here. This is one of my pet interests.