[superstar]

Hello,

I have been wasting dvd+r after dvd+r. I'm getting very upset because I am flushing money down the toilet. Okay well basically this is where I begin...


I just recently bought 100 "TDK" Dvd+r's with 1-16x speed, and 4.7gb space on each. The ones I bought can be seen at this url, except that these on the url are dvd-r's not dvd+r's like the ones I have. But they are still the same kind, and brand:

Dvd Disc Brand


The big spindle of 100 dvd+r's comes with a tiny little note on the label which says to check out this link:

Note On Spindle Label


I have this dvd burner:

Dvd Burner I Own


Okay now the point is that I have different videos I would like to burn. I have indeed burnt them many times. They burn fine, and play fine on my standalone dvd players hooked up to my tv. Problem is that every disc I burn gets to a certain minute of video where the image just starts skipping and the dvd cannot be controled (ie: stopped), or the image just shakes. What I mean by this is I believe I am getting errors. I do not know what speed I should be burning dvds at. I use DVD+R so remember I use "Clone DVD 2" to burn my dvds. I keep watching the video on my dvds fine, and like I said there is always a point halfway through or near the end where the video just starts to skip, and than I can't watch the rest.

I need to know if I am burning at too fast of a speed, or too slow, and what advice or precations I should take while burning dvd. (ie: closing programs, no screen saver, etc). Maybe it's the blank dvd+r's causing the issue from the url links above because of burning speed. Maybe it's something else. Someone please help me and tell me what the issue could be. By the way I only use "Clone DVD 2" by slysoft software, and that is the only one I will choose to use.


Thank You

Edited by superstar, 23 August 2006 - 12:36 AM.

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Hi superstar,

Your burner supports dvd+r burning up to 16x. the media "claims" it can be burnt 1-16x. sometimes with poor quality dvds this isnt the case. You may want to try a different brand of media, if the following doesnt work:

I would try backing it off to 8x and seeing how it works first. another thing to remember is that burning a dvd is a real time process that must run constantly without any interruption. Anything that interrupts the data stream between the Hard drive and the DVD burner will cause an error, like a buffer underun error...resulting in the poor quality you have experienced.
I think as a general rule you should be careful and limit your activity while burning, although a few of my friends dont, and they dont really have big issues. However, i think its a good idea to limit your activity while burning..

here is a firmware update for your dvd burner. Be sure to read ALL instructions BEFORE downloading, and installing, as i wont take responsibility if its not right. That being said, i think its the right one, but check model nos, platform, version anyway.

that might help as well...

Dave

[funtmachine]

Hi superstar,

Your burner supports dvd+r burning up to 16x. the media "claims" it can be burnt 1-16x. sometimes with poor quality dvds this isnt the case. You may want to try a different brand of media, if the following doesnt work:

I would try backing it off to 8x and seeing how it works first. another thing to remember is that burning a dvd is a real time process that must run constantly without any interruption. Anything that interrupts the data stream between the Hard drive and the DVD burner will cause an error, like a buffer underun error...resulting in the poor quality you have experienced.
I think as a general rule you should be careful and limit your activity while burning, although a few of my friends dont, and they dont really have big issues. However, i think its a good idea to limit your activity while burning..

here is a firmware update for your dvd burner. Be sure to read ALL instructions BEFORE downloading, and installing, as i wont take responsibility if its not right. That being said, i think its the right one, but check model nos, platform, version anyway.

that might help as well...

Dave

[help_me_pls]

must run constantly without any interruption

Yes, thats true i.e. don't let any programs to run while burning, even the screensaver. Another thing that you can do is to start burning with the slowest speed and if there will be no problems during playback, just select a higher speed for your next burn. In this way you can find the optimal speed. In fact, I found that for my burner the optimum burning speed for videos is 2.4x on DVD+RW.

So Good luck

hmp

[superstar]

Hmm... very interesting. I will not try the firmware update though. I see what you mean. & no the problem did not occur since day one. I bought them and burnt data dvds perfectly so I know they work, it has to be an issue with burning dvd video to play on a dvd player. I will try disabling as many programs as I can using "system mechanic", which has a list where you can disable programs that run at start up. I can than re enable them with the same program instead of using msconfig which is a bit more tricky. I will try a burn and let you know how it goes. Hey your process of elimination idea sounds good too.

Keep the information comming!

Thanks

Edited by superstar, 23 August 2006 - 09:54 AM.

[funtmachine]

superstar,

another thing to keep in mind is, what is the IDE set up of your DVD-RW drive? Is it on the same channel as your HDD? sometimes this can cause confliction when both are accessing the channel at once. Ideally you would have the DVD-RW drive on the scondary IDE channel, and your HDDs (if IDE) on the primary channel.

Dave

[superstar]

Alright well I used the program "system mechanic" to disable everything that it had in the list of what could be disabled on startup. I restarted my pc, and burnt the video I have on my pc to the dvd+r and choose 1x speed in the "Clone Dvd" program I was using to burn. Anyway's it burnt successfully, or at least that is what the program said. But when I put the dvd+r in the standalone dvd player on top of my tv set, it still has parts where it skips and all that. When I place the dvd+r in my pc and watch it, the video works fine although I did not watch the whole thing. But the parts that skipped on my standalone dvd player do not skip on my pc.

Could it be my standalone dvd player? It's very old, something like 4-5 years old. The model of my standalone dvd player is:

JVC Dvd Player Model XV - S300BK


It's gonna take me a while to sit and watch the entire video on my pc because it is about two hours. But I will do it to see if it skips at all on my pc. By skipping I mean the image and or audio.

another thing to keep in mind is, what is the IDE set up of your DVD-RW drive? Is it on the same channel as your HDD? sometimes this can cause confliction when both are accessing the channel at once. Ideally you would have the DVD-RW drive on the scondary IDE channel, and your HDDs (if IDE) on the primary channel.

In response to that I can tell you that my dvd burner is on it's own ide ribbon and is set to "master". As I said before I have no problem burning data onto these same brand name "TDK" DVD+R. Not to mention I burn my data to these at 8x...

Edited by superstar, 23 August 2006 - 09:34 PM.

[funtmachine]

hmm,

i reckon you can almost bet it is the old dvd player thats causing you the problem...
How to fix that one, out of my scope.

Dave

[superstar]

I'll just buy a new standalone dvd player for my tv than.


I do have a very smart friend who said that burning video to DVD+R is not good. He claims that I should be using DVD-R for video, because the way the video is stored on a DVD+R disc is different than DVD-R. He said that DVD+R stores video in a more complicated way causing burning or playback probs.



Could this be true?

[help_me_pls]

Yes, for old DVD players try to use DVD-R, this will ensure that the data is writen on a single layer. Also, you can try different brands but if you stick with TDK you can try other media such 1X-4X or 1X-8X.

hmp