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westcparts

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win98se (amd mother boards) all drives and printers are mapped and marked as shared but can't see either one or access them from each other.. both were on other neighborhoods before hooking just these 2 together.. but they don't seem to see each other..
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win98se (amd mother boards) all drives and printers are mapped and marked as shared but can't see either one or access them from each other.. both were on other neighborhoods before hooking just these 2 together.. but they don't seem to see each other..

Are they on the same "workgroup"?
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Yes Acklan they appear to be indentical setups & they both have been on other network neighborhoods with out a problem.. they both show Client in their own workgroup, but can't see each other.
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Hi Westcparts
What I put in blue you type What I put in Red is the action you do.
On both computers can you go to Start > Programs > MS dos Prompt
This should bring up a black window with white writing. At the Prompt
C:\windows>ipconfig /all enter
Please pm me the information on both computers for
Dhcp enabled - yes or no
IP address
Subnet mask
Default Gateway
Dhcp server
to close the window C:\windows>exit enter

Do you know if you are running DHCP or static address.
Are the computers connected via a switch/hub or a cable between the two.
If it is a cable is it a Cat 5 cable or an LPT cable.

Cheers
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Computer #1 that is used to dailup the internet, i used to have AOLDSL hookup,
but now I have to dailin

Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : CLIENT.aoldsl.net
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 205.188.146.145
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 172.132.147.9
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 172.132.147.9
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 AM

1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

2 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : SiS NIC SISNIC
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-07-95-AA-20-FD
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.68.130
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 12 18 06 8:54:23 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

Computer # 2 is connected to # 1 via ethernet cable(same cable both used to be hooked to
another network neighborhood

Windows 98 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : CLIENT
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 205.188.146.145
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . :
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . :
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

2 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : SiS NIC SISNIC
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-14-2A-1C-9B-D4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.90.61
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 12 18 06 7:50:23 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
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Ok the 1st thing I can see is that the 2nd Computer does not have a TCPIP range to match the 1st computer.
Computer 1
0 Ethernet adapter :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 172.132.147.9
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 172.132.147.9
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Computer 2
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : NO IP ADDRESS HERE
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . :
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

On computer 2
Can you right click on Network Neighbourhood > properties> configuration tab.
Click on the tcpip once to highlight then click on properties.
On the ip address tab check the Specifiy Ip address.
Put in IP Address 172.132.147.8
Subnet Mask 255.255.0.0
Click on the gateway tab and enter 172.132.147.9 click add
Click OK then Click Ok then it will ask you to reboot.
It may ask you for the 98 cd Do you have one ? or do you know if the cab files are on your computer.
Can you see each other now.
You say you are using a cable to connect the 2 computers
Like this
Was this cable used before to join 2 computers together via the NIC cards or via a Hub / switch ?

Cheers
Peterm
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these are the TCP/IP listed on the config which is 0 ethernet adapter?
TCP/IP->DAIL-UP ADAPTER
" " " " #2(VPN SUPPORT)
" " SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter

also the cable port is made onto the mother board on both computers and i've used them before to connect to other networks

Thanks :whistling:
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Ok we need to add tcpip
Go back to the config tab in my network
Click on add click on protocol click on add click on Microsoft click on TCPIP click on ok

The cable you are using between both computers has this been used to connect 2 computers before
what I am trying to work out is if the cable wentthrough a switch/hub or from computer to computer.
Because you need a different cable for both methods.

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NOW these are the TCP/IP listed on the config which is 0 ethernet adapter?
TCP/IP->DAIL-UP ADAPTER (have 2 of these now ?) :whistling:
TCP/IP->DAIL-UP ADAPTER
" " " " #2(VPN SUPPORT)
" " SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter

and also the cable was connected to a Linksys hub before(not computer to computer) have now connected back to a linksys hub. Does the computer(#1) i dailin with plug into the UPLINK connection on the 5 port Linksys?
or into one of the five other plugins on the back of the hub box and the 2nd computer plugs into one of the others?
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Both cables go into the other ports the uplink is for when you connect hub to hub.
In network neighborhood click on the network card then click on propertities
click on bindings. does it give a tick box with the option to bind to tcpip.
If yes then choose this and click ok does this now list the network card with
tcpip - it will show in the window.
On the configuration tab do you have listed Microsoft Family logon
and / or Client for Microsoft networks.

Do you have the 98 disk or are the files on your machine?

Edited by peterm, 20 December 2006 - 01:06 PM.

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Both cables go into the other ports the uplink is for when you connect hub to hub.
In network neighborhood click on the network card then click on propertities
click on bindings. does it give a tick box with the option to bind to tcpip.
If yes then choose this and click ok does this now list the network card with
tcpip - it will show in the window.
On the configuration tab do you have listed Microsoft Family logon
and / or Client for Microsoft networks.

Do you have the 98 disk or are the files on your machine?

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put the cables as you suggested on the hub: now when either computer is already on the network & the other computer is booted up. the following message displays;

The followeing error occured while loading protocol number 0:

error 38 the computer name you specified is already in use on the network.
To specify a different name double-click ther network icon in control panel
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when the network neighbor hood icon on the desk top is double, it gives me the
network neighbor box with the: GLOBE entire network icon, but when that is clicked it gives
me the red box with and X in it and UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK
THE NETWORK IS NOT ACCESSIBLE (on the second computer)

On the first
on the computer that is used to dailin: double clinking on the network neighbor icon on the desk top shows the GLOBE entire network AND the client icon
double-clicking on the Globe icon then shows WORKGROUPS icon, clicking on it shows the shared devices
on the first computer

must not have something setup right on computer #2

Thanks
Michael
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:blink:

OK.. thanks for all the help!... turns out it was something simple :help:

the networks both the other computers were on all had different identification under properties
mine had always been just "client" and never needed to change it to hook them up, but when
i tried to hook them to the same network that was when the problem occured.. now i just changed the
name on the first computer to "client1" and it is now working fine.. DUH!!!! :whistling:

anyway thanks a million guys.. hope you all have a happy new year :)
Michael
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