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Xbox 360 vs. Nintendo Wii vs. Playstation 3


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Steve Soleimani

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Everyone is debating about his topic, Xbox 360 is better, or Nintendo Wii is, or Playstation 3. Well of course, everyone knows which ever system you had first, or like more you will say its the best. Well lets hear the Geek To Go technicians opinion/facts and of cousre the Pro/Cons comparision of each system. They know what they are talking about.

Xbox 360:


Hardware Specs:

Custom IBM Power-PC Based CPU

* Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
* Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
* VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
* 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
* 1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance

* 9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor

* 500MHz processor
* 10 MB of embedded DRAM
* 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
* Unified shader architecture

Polygon Performance

* 500 million triangles per second

Pixel Fill Rate

* 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA

Shader Performance

* 48 billion shader operations per second

Memory

* 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM
* 700 MHz of DDR
* Unified memory architecture

Memory Bandwidth

* 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
* 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
* 21.6 GB/s front-side bus

Overall System Floating Point Performance

* 1 teraflop

Storage

* Detachable and upgradeable 20GB hard drive
* 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM
* Memory Unit support starting at 64 MB

I/O

* Support for up to four wireless game controllers
* Three USB 2.0 ports
* Two memory unit slots

Optimized for Online

* Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music
* Built-in Ethernet port
* Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
* Video camera ready

Digital Media Support

* Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
* Ability to stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras and Windows XP-based PCs
* Ability to rip music to the Xbox 360 hard drive
* Custom playlists in every game
* Built-in Media Center Extender for Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
* Interactive, full-screen 3-D visualizers

High-Definition Game Support

* All games supported at 16:9, 720p, and 1080i, anti-aliasing
* Standard-definition and high-definition video output supported

Audio

* Multi-channel surround sound output
* Supports 48KHz 16-bit audio
* 320 independent decompression channels
* 32-bit audio processing
* Over 256 audio channels

System Orientation

* Stands vertically or horizontally

Customizable Face Plates

* Interchangeable to personalize the console



Nintendo Wii:


Design Featuring a compact design that makes it a natural addition to any television setup, the Wii console is white in color and can be displayed either vertically or horizontally.

Size

About 8.5 inches long, 6 inches wide and less than 2 inches thick (roughly the size of 3 DVD cases stacked on top of each other).

Network

The Wii console communicates wirelessly with the Internet via wireless or a Wii LAN adaptor. Wii also can connect wirelessly with Nintendo DS.

CPU / GPU

PowerPC CPU (code-named “Broadway”), made with a 90nm SOI CMOS process, jointly developed with and manufactured by IBM; GPU developed with ATI.

Media

A single self-loading media bay plays single- or double-layered 12-cm optical discs for the Wii console, as well as 8-cm Nintendo GameCube discs.

Input / Output

Input: Four Wii Remotes can communicate with Wii, which features a bay for an SD memory card.

Output: An AV Multi-output port for component, composite or S-video.

WiiConnect24

The Wii console can communicate with the Internet even when the power is turned off. The WiiConnect24 service delivers a new surprise or game update, even if the system is idle. Users can connect wirelessly or by using a Wii LAN adaptor.



Playstation 3:


CPU: Cell Processor PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
--1 VMX vector unit per core
--512KB L2 cache
--7 x SPE @3.2GHz
--7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
--7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
--*1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
--Total floating point performance: 218 gigaflops

GPU RSX @ 550MHz
--1.8 TFLOPS floating point Performance
--Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
--Multi-way programmable parallel Floating point shader pipelines
--Sound Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)

MEMORY
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth Main RAM-- 25.6GB/s
VRAM--22.4GB/s
RSX-- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

SYSTEM FLOATING POINT PERFORMANCE:
2 teraflops

STORAGE
--HDD Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
--I/O--USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
--Memory Stickstandard/Duo, PRO x 1
--SD standard/mini x 1
--CompactFlash(Type I, II) x 1

COMMUNICATION
--Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
--Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
--Bluetooth--Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
--ControllerBluetooth (up to 7)
--USB 2.0 (wired)
--Wi-Fi (PSP)
--Network (over IP)

AV OUTPUT
Screen size 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI out x 2
AV multi out x 1
Digital out (optical) x 1

DISC MEDIA
CD
PlayStation CD-ROM
PlayStation2 CD-ROM
CD-DA
CD-DA (ROM),
CD-R,
CD-RW
SACD Hybrid (CD layer),
SACD HD
DualDisc (audio side)
DualDisc (DVD side)
PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM
PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM
DVD-ROM
DVD-R
DVD-RW
DVD+R,
DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc
PlayStation 3 BD-ROM
BD-ROM
BD




Geeks To Go whats the Pro/Cons of each system, and overall quality, based from Price, Specs, Pro vs. Cons.

Thank you,

Steven Soleimani (TechMan1000)
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At the moment, xbox 360 is the ruler because of the vast amount of games that are available not to mention the amount of consoles available. Have yet to play the PS3, but from what i have seen the xbox 360 and PS3 are more or less the same system from a gaming standpoint and not hardware. But we will see what the future has to bring. As for the wii, the graphics are pitiful and i have doubt it'll be able to do much past cartoons figures well. Its only seeing point is its price and its revolutionary remotes, not enough to see me buy one of them.
For now its the xbox 360 but within 6-12 months i think we will begin to see the PS3 exceed the xbox 360 due to its hardware, however i have heard that the xbox 360 has a better GPU then the PS3. Is this true? The wii is to low end for me and probably most gamers out there looking for the best graphics, [bleep] it can only brocast a 480p signal. Thats so 6 years ago :whistling:
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I've played all three and personally you can't really tell the difference between the 360's gfx and the PS3's gfx. PS3 has a better GPU, but its not a very big difference. The wii has the best gameplay, and to James, you get past the crappy graphics after you've played for about 10 minutes. It's really fun and the only cartoon game is really Wii Sports. Just my 2 cents.
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Yah i have only played wii sports so far, but i have troubles seeing any none cartoon games looking all that great.
Note to anyone playing the wii, keep a safe distance from your friends, because the violent battles on the TV might turn violent in your home after you hit a friend with the remote by accident. :whistling:
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lol Nintendo is being sued for that. So they are re-calling a lot of Wiis.
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All I can find regarding a Wii recall is specifically for the wrist-straps. See this link: http://www.nintendo....trapreplace.jsp

I'll be turning in a claim :whistling:
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In terms of hardware capabilities the PS3 is way beyond the 360 the CPU alone is revolutionary and is the first of its generation the cell cpus are going to be used in everything from washing machines to flat panel televisions PS3 is the first in what will be a long line of cell appliances. Its GPU is newer and full dx10 they had to sacrifice that in the 360 to get it out it used what essentially was the prototype dx10 chip at the time it was the best available and its the little brother to the R600s that will be out soon, its power PC chips arent new definitely powerful but old school kinda thing they used to put in the macs before the intel switch.

The main problem with the playstation is its really out a little too early its software needs more tweaking and developers haven't had enough hands on time with the hardware it was the same with every other PS the coders had no clue how to make the most of the hardware allot of games look the same at the moment because they are either PC or 360 ports and they aren't utilising the hardware efficiently.

Personally i wouldn't buy a 360 or a PS3 now ild get a wii Nintendo's have never been powerful that's not what they are selling they go on there games and fun factor as well as affordable prices, its the Nintendo angle and its a good one you don't need top notch hardware to make top notch fun games and as with PS3 and 360 the hardware can get in the way of the games. Cheap, Easy to produce, Fun smart plan even if they only sell well this year thats more than Sony and MS have made because they operated at a profit right off the bat both 360 and PS3 were losing and are losing money in the first half year of launch, and its allot of money they will need to sell allot of consoles and a huge amount of games to make that money back.

The PS3 i think will probably start to come out on top(discounting the wii its not really in competition due to its pricing and sales pitch) its got much more capability and the software should get better rapidly its also more easily customisable which helps get a great community behind it, its linux OS makes it modifiable easily to enhance features without breaking the law to get it to play cracked games, you can use it as a normal PC if you really wanted. Games should start to get better 360 is at its limit the ps3 should start coming into its own just as the PS2 did 6months to a year after launch when the hardware is better understood. And it has the blu ray drive already which is a plus because we are soon going to see the return of games coming on multiple disks for the 360 as the games are getting huge when that becomes common we will probably see a 360Mk.2 with the HD-DVD built into the machine rather than the add on.

They are both good but neither even close to good enough to convince me consoles are the future of gaming. True gaming for me at least for the foreseeable future will be for the PC, better, cheaper games will let the PC be the master for a long time yet.

PS yeah the recall is on the wrist straps nothing wrong with the Wii themselves its just when people own the actual consoles the seem to be much rougher than everyone else was when they were demoing the console, to be honest i wouldn't bother sending it back if i had one i would just put together a better strap, or of course just be more careful, there is already a few guides i think on fixing the straps.

Edited by warriorscot, 19 December 2006 - 02:26 PM.

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Yea seriously I have a Xbox 360 and love it, and I'm waiting for Nintendo Wii to finish its useless and stupid recall (because I couldn't get my hands on one before it got sold out, and the recall made matters worse). The recall is pointless, peoples stupidity shouldn't make Nintendo recall, and also have a lawsuit against a stupid person that got "hurt" playing Wii. Either be more carefull, or don't play. For instance, if your in a room with a drop down fan, you don't go around bouncing off the walls, and throwing your arm around, like a monkey. Its common sence.

Link to "Nintendo sued over Wiimote straps":

http://arstechnica.c...61219-8453.html

Edited by Steve Soleimani, 19 December 2006 - 04:10 PM.

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The recall is partially because of me. I hit my friends arm while playing Wii tennis and the wiimote flew of the wrist strap and when he called in Nintendo said that it was the first call they had gotten about that. Kinda cool. He was pissed.
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The recall is partially because of me. I hit my friends arm while playing Wii tennis and the wiimote flew of the wrist strap and when he called in Nintendo said that it was the first call they had gotten about that. Kinda cool. He was pissed.
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I doubt you where the first claim. But i don't think any class action suit will go though against Nintendo. Its already doing everything necessary to correct its wrong. Its already a dead issue.
@Steve Soleimani the recall is only for the strap, there is nothing wrong with the hardware, unless of course you throw it though a TV like some say. Then you might have a problem.
Happy holiday's everyone :whistling:
James

Edit: I don't understand why the strap is what is braking rather then the little piece of twine that holds the strap to the remote. I could see that breaking a way before the actual strap.

Edited by james_8970, 19 December 2006 - 09:08 PM.

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Seriously, unless your playing like its your life that in stake, it shouldn't brake.
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lol agreed. I can't see how they could break myself.
Nintendo was probably thinking like us.....
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I tihnk there actually talking about that little thin strap. That's what broke with me. OO and after the Wiimote flew out of my hand and it hit the wall falling to the ground, and the batteries flying out. It still worked when I put the battery in. I can't see the actual strap breaking either.

Edited by Drumbum667, 20 December 2006 - 06:58 PM.

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Thats the thing, they are making the strap thicker not the thin twine.
Does it make any sense to anyone?
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