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i was lookin at purchasing a new computer with these specs

Intel® Viiv™ Technology
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6300
�� Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
�� Optima 19" Wide LCD Monitor with DVI
�� 1GB DDR2 RAM �� 320GB SATA2 HDD with NCQ
�� Dual Layer DVD +/- RW Burner
�� 256MB nVidia GeForce N6600 PCI-E Graphics Card
�� Internal High Definition TV Tuner
�� Intel® VOIP card - ENGIN ENABLED. Make cheap calls using your
existing home phone
�� Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
�� Front and Rear Firewire
3 Year Onsite Warranty
BONUS 2-pc Stereo Speakers - RRP $30
BONUS Microsoft® Works Suite 2006 - RRP $169
BONUS FREE $100 Peripheral Voucher
BONUS Microsoft® Media Center Remote Control - RRP $50
BONUS Optima 10 pack DVD Media
BONUS FREE Upgrade To Vista Premium

note the graphics card "256MB nVidia GeForce N6600 PCI-E Graphics Card" will this be direct X 10 compatible
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No your 6600 is NOT DX10 compatable only the Nvidea 8800 series are DX 10 compatable

the DX 10 has to be built in to the card you just cant update it sorry to say and also the 6600 is not a very strong card and probably wouldnt be teh best for gaming it is a low end card these days and probably wont cut it with high resource games

how much are you paying in AU???

im from oz to and im sure that you could build yourself a way better system for heaps cheaper

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this computer is $2300.
would this run this game with flying clours though-

Windows XP, ME, 98, or 2000 operating system.
1000 MHz (1 GHz) or faster processor.
256 MB or more RAM.
At least 1.5 GB of additional hard drive space.
Supported T&L-capable video card with at least 32 MB of video RAM.
Supported Video Cards:
ATI Radeon series 8500 or better (7x00 models no longer supported), All-In-Wonder 8500, 9000, 9200, 9500, 9600, 9700, 9800, X300, X600, X700, X800, and X850.
NVIDIA GeForce 2, 2 GTS, 3, 3 Ti, 4, 4 Ti, 4200, 4600, and 4800.
NVIDIA GeForce MX 420, 440, and 460.
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200, 55500, 5600, 5700, 5800, 5900, and 5950.
NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300, and 5900.
NVIDIA GeForce 6200, 6600, and 6800.
NVIDIA Quadro, Quadro2, and Quadro4.
Intel Extreme Graphics 82865, 82915, and higher.
NOTE: If you have a non-T&L capable video card, such as Intel Extreme Graphics, then you need at least a 2.4 GHz processor.

Does this mean I will not be able to play the new "gamesforwindows" titles?
How Long Until Direct X 10 comes out.
Thanks;

Edited by homersimpson2080, 15 January 2007 - 04:12 PM.

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Like troppo said the 6600 isnt a very good card. I had the ATI X700 which is the model equivalent to the 6600 and it was rubbish.

If i was you i would build a PC as you can buy better parts and excatly what you want. Ready built PCs are made as cheaply as possible e.g. Cheapo RAM, Less case cooling etc. and im not sure about Intel but with AMD the cool and quiet is set on all the time on some of the ready built pcs which would really annoy me.

DirectX 10 is going to be lanched with Windows Vista which is released on the 30th on january. The "games for windows" games are designed with DirectX 10 in mind so you are better off waiting a bit longer till Vista is released.

What game is that you are wanting to run?
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DX 10 video cards have already been released but the newest games havent had DX10 built into them nor is vista released so to run a DX10 game you need vista with a DX10 compatable grahics card and the game has to be built for DX10 aswell

that system would be able to run that game but as rumble and i have said its much better to build your own the upgradeability is much much better

and i really think you are being ripped of ill put together a list of parts worth 2300 and it will be much better than that already pre-built machine

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Gigabyte GA-965G-DS4 motherboard $294.80
Corsair DDR2 1GB PC-6400 (2x XMS2 512MB) TWIN2X1024A-6400 RAM $235.40
Galaxy 7900GT 256Mb PCIE $396.00
Seagate Barracuda 320Gb 7200 16Mb cache SATA 2 Hard Disk $140.20
Pioneer DVR-111D DVD Re-Writer (16x/8x Dual Layer Black) $59.00
Thermaltake Armor Black Tower Case with 430W, VA8000BWS $255.20
Thermaltake TMG i2 CPU Cooler for Intel Socket LGA775 $51.70
BENQ 19" FP92W WIDESCREEN SILVER/BLACK LCD $303.60
Logitech LX7 Cordless Optical Mouse USB/PS2 $58.30
Logitech G-11 Gaming Keyboard USB $92.40
Intel CORE 2 DUO E6600/ 2.40GHz/ 4MB CACHE/ 1066FSB/ LGA775 $455.00

Sub-total $2,341.60

what do you think of that system?

its far better than that pre-built one
1. better CPU with larger cache and faster speed
2. better case with better cooling and power supply
3.Btter more reliable faster RAM
4.larger cache size faster harddrive
5. way better performing more reliable motherboard
6.Upgraded CPU cooler which will keep the system more reliable and quieter
7. better LCD screen which is wide screen
8. the grahics card will [bleep] over the 6600
i have not incuded a tv tuner card but one could be added at a latter date with ease

and u can get windows media centre addition for about $180 so in total your system would be around
$ 2,450

and this system will be 100% DX 10 and vista compatable except for teh video card which an be upgraded later so if you want you can downgrade teh video card to somehting that will just get you through till DX10 cards are cheaper in price so that would knock of about $200

but the system is way better and im sure many people would agree and sure if thats a little to expensive you can downgrade the motherboard because thats an expensive one and you could revert back to the stock intel cooler if you were not thinking of overclocking at all which would cut another $50 off the price
hope that gives you a bit of a price comparrison

troppo

Edited by troppo, 16 January 2007 - 07:27 PM.

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Do you believe that all pre built computers in February wil have graphics cards that are DX10 compatiblie and how much of a price increase will we see in computers with DX10 compatible graphics cards

Edited by homersimpson2080, 16 January 2007 - 08:15 PM.

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no i highly doubt that pre built computers will include DX 10 cards because DX10 grahics cards at the moment cost
about $1200 for the ASUS EN8800GTX

or

about $800 for the GTS model

computer manafacturers are to slow to keep up with the technology and charge you an arm and a leg for outdated and slow parts

what do you think of the system i put togther for you???

are you not confident in building your own system??? its not that hard

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how long will it be before games will require a direct X 10 compatible graphics card to play them because $1200 is pretty expensive for a computer to play any sort of game. I do not really want to make mt own computer.
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probably around 3 months maybe or even longer before they are sort of in the main stream

ok so you dont want to build your own PC then???

alot of sites offer to build the system for you with the components you want and then ship it to you wearever you live what state are you in??
that will help me find an online shop to help you
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Here is a site wear you get to pick the parts and they will build it for you with either OS insatlled or not ad teh price changes by 25 dollars

125 for OS insalled or 99 without

http://www.i-tech.co...d_Your_Own.aspx

that should help you

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if it will only be 3 months does that mean everyone wanting to play games will have to buy a DX10 compatible graphics card
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Intel® Viiv™ Technology
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6300
�� Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
�� Optima 19" Wide LCD Monitor with DVI
�� 1GB DDR2 RAM �� 320GB SATA2 HDD with NCQ
�� Dual Layer DVD +/- RW Burner
�� 256MB nVidia GeForce N6600 PCI-E Graphics Card
�� Internal High Definition TV Tuner
�� Intel® VOIP card - ENGIN ENABLED. Make cheap calls using your
existing home phone
�� Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
�� Front and Rear Firewire
3 Year Onsite Warranty
BONUS 2-pc Stereo Speakers - RRP $30
BONUS Microsoft® Works Suite 2006 - RRP $169
BONUS FREE $100 Peripheral Voucher
BONUS Microsoft® Media Center Remote Control - RRP $50
BONUS Optima 10 pack DVD Media
BONUS FREE Upgrade To Vista Premium

will this pc be able to run a nvidia dx10 compatible graphics card when necessary
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buy the time DX10 games are iin the main stream companies like ATI and Nvidea will release more mid range low range cards and DX 10 will be affordable

but by teh time that happens you will not see DX 10 cards in prebuilt gaming machines

if your heart is set on that system then go ahead with it but its your decision and i have presented many options but its down to you but you can get a better system for that price and you are wasting your money

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all i want to know is will it be able to run a DX10 graphics card

Edited by homersimpson2080, 31 January 2007 - 12:52 AM.

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