is there any way I can get back in or anything I should do?
XP system restarts during boot, continual cycle
Posted 06 May 2007 - 06:25 PM
is there any way I can get back in or anything I should do?
Posted 07 May 2007 - 09:38 AM
To reach Recovery Console insert the disk into the cd drive and reboot the computer. Setup Windows screen will show up. If it doesn't, enter BIOS and set the cd drive to be first priority boot device.
Let Setup run until three setup options are shown. Choose Recovery Console by pressing R. When asked for XP installation type 1 (assuming you have only one operating system installed). When asked for password type your password or press Enter if you don't have a passwoed. A black DOS-like screen will show up. At the prompt type chkdsk /r and press Enter. Let the process run to the end.
Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:37 PM
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 10:01 PM
Posted 08 May 2007 - 10:04 PM
Download and install an application called "Autostreamer" onto the computer you will be using. It can be removed after you are finished. Get it here: http://www.softpedia...load-13918.html Follow the instructions offered in this guide: http://www.simplygui...ostreamer.shtml
Briefly, it works like this:
1. Copy the contents of the original XP CD to a file on the computer's hard drive.
2. Download Service Pack 2 (full version--see guide) and 'Save" it to a file on the same computer.
3. Open Autostreamer and when prompted, direct it to first the CD file, and then the SP2 file.
4. Let Autostreamer do its job. It will create an ISO file of the "Slipstreamed" result.
5. Use an ISO capable CD burning application to place the ISO file on a CD. If you do not have one, DeepBurner
is free, and worked fine for me: http://www.majorgeek...wnload4055.html
Once you have the newly created CD, you can proceed with the XP Repair install, using the new disc in place of the original XP CD.
I am very interested in what the Skeptic is investigating. It may be that the repair install will not be required. Even so, you may wish to take the time now to create the slipstreamed CD against future need.
Posted 09 May 2007 - 03:26 PM
System Fan No Function
I can find no data on temperature. This is an Emachines T2245.
Regarding the SP1 vs SP2 issue, can I run the Windows Repair and then just reload SP2, vice Slipstreaming?
BTW, Tuxmaster, System Restart was set to Off via the BIOS, which is interesting that the system was still auto-rebooting repeatedly. I'm wondering if it could suggest the power supply vice the HD. I metered the power supply during boot and reset and the voltages were about 4.97 and 11.65 VDC, with slight fluctuations.
I then removed the HD and placed an old Win 98 drive into the CPU..it booted fine. I then took the problem child drive and put it as the slave into a Win 98 machine..I was unsure if Win 98 would recognize an XP drive as slave..the system never noticed it (although the BIOS recognized the addditional drive), so my experiment there was semi-inconclusive. Should it work in a Win 98 system? Next I can try it in a Win XP system as a slave I guess??
So, based on my rudimentary skills, I think the drive is bad. Is there a way I can get into it and get at the data? it seems to boot up to a point, then fail, so i think it is not completely dead. Will XP restore help or hurt? I don't care so much about the SP1 vs 2 at this point. If I can offload key data, I will put in a new HD, reload it with the factory config and start over.
Edited by VTJim, 09 May 2007 - 05:32 PM.
Posted 09 May 2007 - 11:53 PM
Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:36 AM
If the computer was stable with the old disk then, I think, there are two options left. it's either the HD or Windows. To give a final answer about the HD condition I would do the following:
1: Open the box, boot the computer and listen carefully to try to lopcate where the click sound comes from. To make it easyier you can remove the HD from the box, keep it attached to the cables and listen carefully.
2: Depending of the make and model of the HD download and create a bootable floppy or CD of the diagnostic program of the manufacturer. Download it from their site. If you need help with this please let us know. Run a complete test and watch the verdict.
To backup your data you can move your HD to another computer with xp installation:
Remove the hard disk from your computer. Open the box of the other omputer and use the flat
cale that connects the HD of the other computer to connect your HD too. Now you will have
both disks attached to the same cable, each getting it's own power supply (a cable with a white
four-lead thick connector at the end). At the back of each HD there is a small jumper (a tiny two
pin connector) that can be set in a number of positions. You can find jumpering configuration
printed on the HD
Jumper both disks as cable select (csl). Your HD must be connected to the second from the end
connector of the flat cable and the other computer's HD must be connected to the end connector.
Alternatively the other disk can be jumpered as master and your disk as slave.
Go to My Computer open"your" disk, copy the data and paste to the other disk.
Regarding windows repair I must admit that I am not too fond with the process eventhough it can save you a format. The reason I don't like it is that many times it ends with many new problems created. Regarding windows slipstreaming I like it even less and regard it as a complex and unreliable process. If you decide to repair windows try it with your present disk. It may work, otherwise you will get a notice that you need another xp version.
Posted 11 May 2007 - 12:48 PM
Also, tried moving the drive as a second drive into our other XP desktop, except that system is Serial ATA and this drive is IDE...sigh. So, that is out unless there is a way to do it. Also, I have an older HD I could format I guess. Is there anyway to load up a very basic XP "shell" on the extra drive (currently WIN 98) so that I can boot it and then get into the failing drive to recover my data? Things were so much easier in the DOS days...
Posted 11 May 2007 - 01:16 PM
I don't remember ever seeing the over-temperature note that you see. Touch the HD while it's running the scan and feel if it's too hot. You should be able to touch it comfortably, without any burning sensation.
Practically all modern motherboard that I know off have both sata and ide connectors. Find the ide connection, install the drive and try to backup the data.
Please report the results of the full scan.
Posted 11 May 2007 - 01:35 PM
Regarding the IDE connector on the HP system with the Serial ATA, there was an open connector on the motherboard but the IDE cable I took off of the Emachines had a connector which was too long for the socket. Perhaps there is another one that i missed. if the steps above dont work, i will dive back into the HP (very hard to pull daughter #2 off of "her" computer so I can rip into it!!).
Posted 11 May 2007 - 02:53 PM
Thanks to Tuxmaster and The Skeptic, and 1101Doc. I appreciate your various suggestions and responses.
Edited by VTJim, 11 May 2007 - 03:12 PM.
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