[mrq201]

i have ran disk defragmentation twice tonight, and after each time i run it, i go to pcpitstop and check my system and each time it says that i have to run a defrag...

I ran pcpitstop diskMD and it gave these results

Defrag Analysis Report, Generated by PC Pitstop Disk MD on 6/1/2007 21:08:11:

Volume Information for C:\

Volume Size: 83.40 GB
Cluster Size: 4.00 KB
Used Space: 28.80 GB
Free Space: 54.60 GB
Percent Free Space: 65%


Volume Fragmentation:

Total Fragmentation: 12%
Data Fragmentation: 36%
File Fragmentation: 0%
Folder Fragmentation: 0%

I guess this is bad right. Please note that i ran diskhealth right after i defraged my system.

I have windows vista home premium, 1 gig of ram, on a gateway MT3705 (laptop)

I love to have my systems running flawlessly and this nagging problem is, well, nagging me.

Any ideas what to do?

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go to the system defrag and hit analyze, see what it tells ya. i have always trusted micro$ofts defrag, has not failed me once

[AnthonyJ]

go to the system defrag and hit analyze, see what it tells ya. i have always trusted micro$ofts defrag, has not failed me once

[bobmad]

Many of these 3rd party defragmenters us a different algorithm to defrag. They will put programs in a different order, to optimize your system. This you need to defrag message is not uncommon when using different program to analyze effectiveness of a defrag.


Those fragmented files COULD BE system restore files. Do as AnthonyJ suggests, and see what those files are.

[mrq201]

Yeah i tried that before i defraged, but i have vista and with vista, it doesnt have an option to analyze. It just has defrag, so thats why i used pcpitstop to get some insight on what i need to do. Is there another way to have it analyzed so i can really know if i need to defrag or not.

[Troy]

Not sure how good it works in Vista (as I have XP), but jkDefrag is a kickass defragger. Why bother worrying about if it needs doing or not? Just do it, I run mine once a week minimum, as well as before and after installing/uninstalling programs. You can check it out in my signature.

Cheers.

[mrq201]

See i have mine scheduled to run every week, but when i ran pcpitstop, it would always say excess fragmentation or something like that. So then i started to doubt it.. But i will check out the utility you recommended.

[Troy]

I'm not too sure what pcpitstop is, but I've personally never trusted the Windows defraggers, unlike AnthonyJ -->

i have always trusted micro$ofts defrag

I have had it working good if you do it religiously, so it's not necessarily that AnthonyJ is wrong and I'm right or vice-versa, but I've seen too many times how jkdefrag can just pull someone (like my un-techy mates) out of a tough spot where the windows defragger was getting nowhere.

EDIT: Just checking out PCPitstop now, doesn't look too bad...

Edited by ruthandtroy, 04 June 2007 - 10:20 AM.

[Troy]

Okay I've just checked out this PC Pitstop diskMD program, it seems like all it does is give you a comprehensive analysis of the fragmentation state of your hard drive - and it uses strong sales tactics to convince you to buy the full version or whatever. Basically it comes down to this: it might be handy to have this program, but better than that - run a defragging program (such as jkdefrag) as part of your regular computer maintenance (you do have a maintenance schedule, right?). This means that programs like PC Pitstop become 'surplus to requirements' and can be uninstalled.

Cheers.

[mrq201]

Yeah i do have it scheduled to run on its own. I do run it other times also. I have not ran the jkdefrag as yet, but as soon as i do, i will run the test on my laptop and see what those results say and i will let you know.
I have not purchased anything from pcpitstop by the way. I have all the utilities i need.

[mrq201]

Ok i used the jkdefrag, which took rather long i think. And hey, i ran the test on my pc, and it still said i need to defrag my laptop.....So honestly, i dont know what to do

[Troy]

Do you have two computers? Or is your pc your laptop? Sorry, but your last post is a bit confusing...

yeah, any decent defragging program can take a long time to complete on a hard drive, it is an intensive process. Depends how much work it needs to do and how big the hdd is and how full it is...

And hey, i ran the test on my pc, and it still said

Does this mean the PC Pitstop test?

Perhaps you need to run a scandisk first, if there are some errors on the hdd it might not defragment properly.

[mrq201]

im sorry for the confusion.... yeah i mean the pcpitstop test and i will run a scan disk again, then run the defragmenter again

[Troy]

Yeah i do have it scheduled to run on its own

By the way, this was not what I meant by a maintenance schedule...

So any further luck yet?