[finn209]

ok, my son gave me an older IBM laptop...................messed up immediately by reformatting it right off the bat....................now I can use my windows 98 boot disk to boot it up...........but when I put my windows 98 CD in, it no longer has the drivers to operate the CD-ROM..........and then I get the message below.............I've heard some say the easiest way to work around this, is to put the hard drive in another computer and copy windows 98 to the C drive.......then install windows 98 that way, instead of accessing it with the CD-ROM...............but I'm hvaing real trouble trying to figure out how to remove the hard drive from it..........and not sure my other computer would let me plug in the older laptop's hard drive..............I do have the IBM CD-ROM drivers on a floppy disk........but don't know enough DOS to install them without a windows operating system.........could someone talk a DOS dummy thru that?............any help is greatly appreciated!


"CD-ROM Device Driver for IDE (Four Channels Supported)
©Copyright Oak Technology Inc. 1993-1996
Driver Version : V340
Device Name : BANANA
No drives found, aborting installation
Device driver not found: 'BANANA'.
No valid CDROM device drivers selected
A:\> "

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There is an excellent win98 install reference on this site at:
http://www.geekstogo...s_98-t9803.html

For best results, read through the entire guide before donig the installation. Some steps may vary slightly(screen shots for 2 & 10, for example). But for the most part, the installation will proceed as shown.

If you run into problems, post the step and report the 'error' message.

[bdlt]

There is an excellent win98 install reference on this site at:
http://www.geekstogo...s_98-t9803.html

For best results, read through the entire guide before donig the installation. Some steps may vary slightly(screen shots for 2 & 10, for example). But for the most part, the installation will proceed as shown.

If you run into problems, post the step and report the 'error' message.

[bdlt]

Some PCs(HP Compaq) have their own partitions. I'm not sure about the IBM. I would recommend skipping the partition steps for now.

[finn209]

thanks much for the info!!!

I have to be gone today, but will try it all out tonight

[finn209]

Having difficulty at the first.

Cannot get to BIOS.

When I turn on the laptop, the first screen I get says this -

20096 KB OK

The next screen says -

Starting Windows 98

The next screen says -

"CD-ROM Device Driver for IDE (Four Channels Supported)
©Copyright Oak Technology Inc. 1993-1996
Driver Version : V340
Device Name : BANANA
No drives found, aborting installation
Device driver not found: 'BANANA'.
No valid CDROM device drivers selected
A:\> "

All of these are black screens, with no other instructions or writing.

The guide says to do this -
You need to make sure that you have the BIOS/Startup, so that the CDROM drives boots before the Hard Drive. To do this, you need to enter the BIOS/Startup by pressing: ESC, F1, F2, or DEL. Usually during POST (boot up) there should be something on the bottom stating on how to enter the BIOS/Startup. Press the button that it says to press or try one of the above until you enter BIOS/Startup Menu. Now using the arrow keys, there should be a tab that says, Startup/Boot Order. Under that should be a list with a list of options, make the 1st Boot - Floppy/3.5 Floppy, 2nd Boot - CDROM, 3rd Boot - Hard Drive, 4th Boot - Other. Place the CD in the CDROM Drive, save and exit the BIOS settings.

But no matter what key I press, I just get those 3 screens mentioned above. So I don't know how to enter the "BIOS/Startup Menu".

I'm also wondering if I would be able to boot up from the CD first if there are no CD-ROM drivers already installed?

thank you!!

[finn209]

also, I guess I'm a little slow on this stuff, but am I suppose to be pressing one of these keys repeatedly? or in some kind of order? or just once? in order to reach the BIOS/Startup Menu

ESC, F1, F2, or DEL

[bdlt]

as to the key pressing - just once is normally enough.

it looks like this booted from boot floppy. if this is true, at the a> prompt you can type fdisk, select with cdrom support, and proceed at the screen where startup is called. the win98 boot floppy has a generic cdrom driver and the cd should run at this point.

the starting point after selecting cdrom support looks like:
x:\win98\setup
where x: is the cd drive(d:, e:, f:, ...)
skip the partition and format steps. you already did the format.

[finn209]

when I type fdisk at the a> prompt, I don't get the "select cdrom support" option......I only get the following 4 choices -

1. Create DOS partition or Logical DOS Drive

2. Set active partition

3. Delete partition or Logical DOS Drive

4. Display partition information

[bdlt]

bad info from bdlt(sorry) - select 'with cdrom support' is before fdisk.

give me a minute or 2 to send better instructions.

before you typed fdisk, was the cdrom drive identified or was the same 'BANANA' message shown?

[bdlt]

better details:

bootup, see step 3 - select with cdrom support

observe screen - cdrom drive may be identified here

skip step 4 - fdisk

skip steps 5, 6, 7

start at the bottom of step 8 screen shot
x:\win98\setup

[finn209]

when I bootup, I don't ever see step 3.........and I don't get the option to select "with cdrom support"..........I just get these 3 screens listed below, which always just end at the a> prompt

the first screen I get says this -

20096 KB OK

The next screen says -

Starting Windows 98

The next screen says -

"CD-ROM Device Driver for IDE (Four Channels Supported)
©Copyright Oak Technology Inc. 1993-1996
Driver Version : V340
Device Name : BANANA
No drives found, aborting installation
Device driver not found: 'BANANA'.
No valid CDROM device drivers selected
A:\> "

[bdlt]

it looks like this cdrom won't work with the win98 boot disk.

this is worth a try:
remove the boot floppy
install the win98 cd
reboot

if the reboot is unsuccessful, do you have another cdrom to try?

[finn209]

yes, I think this is correct.........the cdrom drive is not working with the win98 boot disk................I tried rebooting with the floppy removed and the win98 cd inserted, but that didn't work either............I don't have another cdrom drive to install in this laptop................and the cdrom drive isn't actually inside the laptop itself............the cdrom drive is inside the IBM Thinkpad docking station that the laptop is connected to..........don't know if that makes any difference or not..........but thank you much for trying to help me

[bdlt]

I'm not familiar with the docking station.

question(just curious):
did the boot get to the c> prompt during the cd boot attempt?

[finn209]

no, when I take the boot disk floppy out, then reboot with CD inserted, then all I get is this -

Invalid system disk
Replace the disk, and then press any key