Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:06 PM
Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:20 PM
Most of the software vendors dont want to comform to microsoft driver creation rules(It cost them to much money, me thinks). Thus they make crappy drivers that dont support good process handling and proper thread operation in vista. That has been my big complaint so far. To keep track of some of the problems you find in vista or xp try using procmon by systernals. It makes some of the problems more visible. procexp is also a good tool for seeing more than taskman can.
The performance issue can be solved by turning off some of the extra features (eye candy).
BTW next gen of windows is veinna (did i spell that right?). So they already have bigger plans than vista. I heard (hear say) that it is going to be on a new type of file system also.
Edited by warrendubz, 16 October 2007 - 08:39 PM.
Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:31 PM
Posted 16 October 2007 - 11:42 PM
I am running vista ultimate and I have no issues. I quite like vista myself. I even like the eye candy. I don't tweak it for performance.. I have it set for style (appearance)
Even with a dreamscene running, sidebar and gadgets going.. It doesn't seem to idle at 1gig..
I have 4 gigs of RAM and the average idle is about 16%... which I think must be around 640MBs.. (im horrible at math) I also multitask heavily.. I have yet to have any performance issues.
I did have an issue one time where where a "startup.exe" was not shutting down.. I think it said "startup" I can't recall now.
Oh.. and the only process that draws a lot of resources on mine is the explorer.exe.. it runs at about 14%.. due to the dreamscene. If I put up a standard wallpaper instead of dreamscene.. my idle drops to around 3% average
I couldn't figure out what was bugging me about this ... now I got it. RAM doesn't idle.. it's just volatile memory space. The CPU is what is idleing.. (just to be technically correct) and it's idle rate is dependent upon what programs and behind the scene processes are running. The only impact RAM has is when there isn't enough of it and the CPU has to create virtual memory on the hard drive... for this makes the CPU work harder.
Anyway, as I mentioned before. My idle rate is low. My RAM usage, however, is around 30% (average), which I suppose is around 1GB. As I type this my DuoCores are running between 0% and 5%.
Edited by PsychPosse, 17 October 2007 - 12:23 AM.
Posted 17 October 2007 - 02:43 AM
Don't expect any service packs to improve Vista's memory requirements. Even assuming that was possible, it would require a re-write of the code from the ground up, and that isn't going to happen till Vista is replaced. As mentioned in this thread already, the only way to reduce RAM usage is to turn off some of the "eye candy" which is just about the only feature that distinguishes it from XP -- so why buy it? The answer, of course, is that we have no choice because it comes pre-installed on all new machines and there is now no option to demand XP instead. My bet is that sales of Vista would be much slower if we all had the option of choosing a pre-install of XP instead.
Edited by pip22, 17 October 2007 - 02:50 AM.
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