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FIRST COMPUTER BUILD


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new user here and i am building my first computer i have a bunch of links here and if you guys could help me out, let me know if everything here will work fine and if there is anything else i could add to it would be great.

http://www.tigerdire.....u=P450-9102 J
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http://www.tigerdire...mp;sku=L12-1124
http://www.tigerdire...;Sku=TSD-400AS4

will eventually get another 2 gigs of that ram and another video card to go along with that later and this will be on windows vista. is there any difference between the 32 and 64 bit versions? iv talked to some people and they said they havnt noticed a difference between the two.

Edited by Seige07, 08 January 2008 - 04:49 AM.

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looks like your gonna need a heat sink for your processor, the barebone kit doesn't show one included (OEM processors dont come with heat sinks). Her's a couple that should do fine.

http://www.tigerdire...e...&CatId=1588

http://www.tigerdire...e...&CatId=1588 (basiclay same but different company)

I also suggest taking a look at Newegg.com they have a wonderful selection on all kinds of stuff - http://www.newegg.com/

32 bit Vista will do just fine, unless you plan on running more than 4 gigs of ram on that board (board specs state up to 4 gig with 32 bit.. up to 8 gig with 64 bit)

be sure to check back here throughout the day as more peeps post their opinions.

Edited by Bahlzeron, 08 January 2008 - 05:00 AM.

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Hi Welcome to Geeks To Go! :)

I don't know anything about Barebone Kits and how good the products that comes with it so I won't comment on that.
For the video card, I suggest getting the XFX GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB Video Card - Alpha Dog Edition for $349.99, -$20 for Mail-in-Rebate.
You can also get the EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB Video Card for $349.99, no Rebate. Difference between the two, first one comes with Company of Heroes and the later comes with Crysis. Both Companies also offer great warranty. The 8800GTS 512MB cards are dual-slot that's good for keeping temperatures low. I believe these cards are better than what you picked, it has a higher memory and core clock.

You can also check http://www.ncix.com/, its a Canadian Store, a really good site to do online shopping, you can also do Price Match there.

For the difference between 32 and 64 bit OS versions, usually its the software/drivers support, there's not a lot of driver support for 64-bit version so that means not everything (hardwares that need drivers or softwares) that works with 32-bit will work for 64-bit. I came across this one, http://windowstipoft...t-editions.html and this one http://blogs.zdnet.c...u/?p=440&page=2, these sites just tells you what the difference between the two.

Kamille

Edited by kamille316, 08 January 2008 - 11:24 AM.

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thanks guys for your replys. my build was originally on newegg but they dont [bleep] to canada i dont think. i picked the card i picked for crysis and i also have company of heroes so i will switch the card i had with the one you just posted. i also added that heatsink in there, and i will probably stick with the 32 bit system then, i only planed on gettin 4 gigs of ram any ways and eventually another graphics card a little bit down the road. any other replys or comments about the build would be great>

thanks alot again guys
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Welcome to geekstogo,
Take a look at www.NCIX.com, afterwards find cheaper prices from other canadian e-tailers because NCIX will price match any of their competitors.
I have bought a lot of stuff from NCIX and I cannot complain. They are safe, reliable and much better then TigerDriect.

I highly recommend against purchasing that bearbones kit for a number of reasons.
1. That is a poor quality PSU
2. Unless you plan on buying SLI in the future, the P35 boards from Intel are much more reliable then the chipsets from nVidia.


http://www.ncix.com/...acture=Gigabyte -100$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 (note, if you plan on overclocking you might want to buy RAM that is a bit better) -25$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -95$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -29$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -100$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -110$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -270$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -320$
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -115$

You could nearly save 100$ if you got the card below.
http://www.ncix.com/...u...&quantity=1

The above is a much higher quality build. Using price match located in your cart, you could probably reduce the price of this build by 50-100$. Use www.shopbot.ca to find prices from other canadian retailers.
Please note that the motherboard I mentioned above will not run Crossfire as there is only one PCIe x16 slot, you'll need to spend an additional 35$ for this feature. Also, P35 boards cannot run SLI.

James

Edited by james_8970, 08 January 2008 - 02:27 PM.

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http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=C283-1850

would that psu be good enough to run two of these vid cards

http://www.newegg.co...6814130079#spec

decided if im going to build a PC, might as well make it a real good comp.

Edited by Seige07, 19 January 2008 - 01:46 PM.

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Cool! I like your build with the 2 graphics cards! :) I think the PSU would be plenty powerfull for the graphics cards. (Correct me if i'm wrong james). :)

Good Luck on your awesome build!

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Cool! I like your build with the 2 graphics cards! :) I think the PSU would be plenty powerfull for the graphics cards. (Correct me if i'm wrong james). :)

Good Luck on your awesome build!

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here is my new build. pretty mucht he same as before with a few upgrades here and there

http://www.tigerdire...mp;sku=ULT31824
http://www.tigerdire...BM-680ILT-Q6600
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=T925-2264 x2
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=T925-2032
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=O261-8038 x2
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=P129-1018
http://www.tigerdire...mp;sku=R99-1074
http://www.tigerdire...mp;sku=M17-7414
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=E145-8826 x2
http://www.tigerdire...mp;sku=W10-8108

i know games and things right now wont use 8gb of ram or dual 8800GTX to its full potential but im lookin for a couple years down the road.
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Hi there,

I truly believe for the money, you can get a much better system - or build one with similar performance for cheaper... As discussed earlier, make sure you shop through NCIX to get the best prices. Also, you haven't posted a PSU in the last list... And I really wouldn't suggest going all out on the RAM / Graphics now to future-proof, that's just technology - you can't future-proof! If you are looking to spend that much money, downgrade the system for now and then run some upgrades (with the rest of the money) once the new tech items are released...

That case should be alright, but it's pretty cheap. Just be careful when building that you take a good look at it, don't cut yourself on any sharp edges or anything. That being said, there's some pretty nice reviews on it.

If you want to run SLI, look for a motherboard with the new 780i chipset... This one comes with the Core 2 Quad Q6600 as a bundle. I do recommend, however, that you look for a nice P35 motherboard (such as this one) and run 1 really good graphics card (like this one), and then upgrade later to a newer, better GPU when it's released. SLI is extremely pricey for the price/performance, and you definitely don't get 2x the power just because you have 2x graphics cards... Of course, if you must have it, you must :)

If you want to overclock, look for a Tuniq Tower or this with one of these fans on it, grab an extra two (3 in total) for the case fans.

That RAM looks okay, but try this for better timings.

Get yourself a SATA DVD Burner and HDD, much faster and better cabling inside (better air-flow).

Be advised that there may be compatibility issues with 64-bit OS, I do recommend the 32-bit version, even though you won't be able to use the whole lot of the 4GB...

Lastly, a PSU - you cannot skimp on this part, I would go for one of the big ones (like this) if you run SLI, otherwise this one is excellent for the money and will power the system well.

I hope this helps some,

Troy.
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ok thanks for the suggestions. i am still going to get it off tiger direct but i have redone my build.

http://www.tigerdire...mp;sku=M17-7412
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=O261-7054
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=P227-1001
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=P725-3058
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=T925-2264 x2 (are these fans okay?) the brand you had isnt on tigerdirect
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=E145-8826 (still going to go with the 8800 GTX superclocked. just 1 for now) (thx for savin me money :))
http://www.tigerdire...=MBM-780I-Q6600
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=C283-2032

and i couldnt find a hard drive on the site. none said sata2 so im not to sure. if someone could find a good harddrive on tigerdirect for me that would be great. if you notice anything else im missing just let me know.

thanks alot guys for all your help and suggestions

Edited by Seige07, 19 January 2008 - 10:01 PM.

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ok thanks for the suggestions. i am still going to get it off tiger direct but i have redone my build.

Can I ask why? I bet you that you could save $150+ on this build and their support is much better.

Don't get those fans.

Get this video card opposed to the one you have.
http://www.tigerdire...e...&CatId=1839

Get this hard drive
http://www.tigerdire...e...5&CatId=139

There are better PSU's out there, but you cannot get them on tigerdirect, same goes for the memory.
James

Edited by james_8970, 19 January 2008 - 11:42 PM.

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ok well.. i have mad a list on ncix and here it is.

http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 -Case
http://www.ncix.com/...x.php?sku=17749 - Case fan x2
http://www.ncix.com/...x.php?sku=25369 -Mother Board
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 - PSU (could i get by with a cheaper PSU?)
http://www.ncix.com/...x.php?sku=27470 - 8800 GTS Video Card
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 - Quad core processor
http://www.ncix.com/...x.php?sku=27537 - 4gb RAM
http://www.ncix.com/...x.php?sku=27144 - HDD
http://www.ncix.com/...x.php?sku=23283 - DVD drive
http://www.ncix.com/...mp;promoid=1019 - 32 bit Vista

what type of CPU fan should i get for this and is there anything that i have forgotten to include?

Edited by Seige07, 20 January 2008 - 12:41 AM.

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I wouldn't suggest a different PSU, that one is a steal at that price.
Be sure to use price match, it's located in your cart.
How much are you willing to spend on a heatsink.
James

Edited by james_8970, 20 January 2008 - 12:42 AM.

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any price is fine.
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