[frankthetank]

ha Guys I was just wondering if you could share you system specs. with me. Also here are my system specs.

Specs.

Abit IP35 Pro Motherboard
core 2 Duo E6850 (3.0Ghz)
cool max 550 wats
sony dvd burner
XFX 8500 GT 256 Megabytes
Ultra Grid ATX Case
Seagate 250 Gigs. hard drive (7200 Rpm)
2 gigs. of memory OCZ 800Mhz. (timings 4-4-4-15)

Will my system play games like Call of Duty 4
What Should I Upgrade? Thanks

Edited by frankthetank, 20 January 2008 - 06:33 PM.

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Your 8500 GT will struggle with it, if it will play it all. The 8500 GT is not a gaming oriented card. Also you should not trust those componants on a Cool Max PSU. Also even though you did specify which 550W CoolMax it appears that none of them will have +12v power needed for a high end graphics card.

I would recommend a 8800 GT. That is the card to get ATM. Geforce 9 will be released soon but they are starting with the low end cards.


Edit: My rig is in my profile.

Edited by Titan8990, 20 January 2008 - 06:51 PM.

[Titan8990]

Your 8500 GT will struggle with it, if it will play it all. The 8500 GT is not a gaming oriented card. Also you should not trust those componants on a Cool Max PSU. Also even though you did specify which 550W CoolMax it appears that none of them will have +12v power needed for a high end graphics card.

I would recommend a 8800 GT. That is the card to get ATM. Geforce 9 will be released soon but they are starting with the low end cards.


Edit: My rig is in my profile.

Edited by Titan8990, 20 January 2008 - 06:51 PM.

[stettybet0]

I agree with Titan in that you are going to want a better video card to play games like COD4.

The first 9 series cards, the 9600GT and the 9800GX2, are not necessarily low-end (the 9800GX2 could end up being more expensive than the 8800Ultra), but they still use the G92 core, which is also used in the 8 series. They should be available around Valentine's Day. True 9 series cards will probably not be seen until around August, but they are rumored to be up to 3 times more powerful than the 8 series. NVIDIA needs to fire whoever came up with their naming system. The 9600GT should be the 8650GT, the 8800GT should be the 8900GT, the 8800GTS 512MB should be the 8900GTS, and the 9800GX2 should be the 8950GX2. Is that so hard? Sorry for ranting a bit.

As for my system...
Antec 900 case with 2 additional 80mm case fans
EVGA 680i A1 mobo
Intel E6750 @ 3.6ghz 24/7 on air
4GB (4x1GB) Patriot DDR2-800 RAM @ 900mhz 4-4-4-12-2t timings
EVGA 8800GTS 512MB @ 700/1850/2000 (core/shaders/mem)
WD Raptor X 150GB 10000RPM HD (adding another soon for RAID 0)
XION Supernova Modular 600W PSU
40" Sony Bravia 1080p (1920x1080 native res) HDTV connected via DVI->HDMI cable

Edited by stettybet0, 20 January 2008 - 07:36 PM.

[james_8970]

True 9 series cards will probably not be seen until around August, but they are rumored to be up to 3 times more powerful than the 8 series.

Don't believe rumors, these cards will not be that fast. If they did indeed become that fast, the CPU would become a huge bottleneck as it wouldn't be able to address enough information to the GPU to process. At this point, I'm really disappointed in what we are seeing from nVidia and especially from ATI. Unless ATI can compete, nVidia won't be pushed to innovate as quickly. However if they have a ace up their sleeve, I'd be happy to see what they have in store. 3x the overall power of a 8800GTX is an exaggeration by any means.

The 9600GT should be the 8650GT, the 8800GT should be the 8900GT, the 8800GTS 512MB should be the 8900GTS, and the 9800GX2 should be the 8950GX2

I don't think anyone likes their naming system right now, it's just a bunch of revisions.

If you're looking for an upgrade, I'm going to have to agree. The PSU and GPU have to go.

Gigabyte P35-DS3P Rev 1.0.......................................................(SBW-SLI waterblock)
E6600 @ 4.0GHz........................................................................(w/ FuZion waterblock)
Vista 32bit
HIS HD 2900XT 850/980............................................................(MCW60 waterblock)
Dual setup Samsung SyncMaster226BW
850W Strider ST85F
500GB Seagate 7200.10.............................................................(getting a 500GB 7200.11 and the next generation of raptors, whenever that is)
X-fi xtremegamer
OCz Platinum XTC 4GB 800MHz ram @ 4-4-4-12-2T 900mhz........(getting a Mips RAM Freezer waterblock)
Antec Nine Hundread Case.........................................................(replacing it with a Stacker 830 for more room)
Z-5300e 5.1 speakers
Everything cooled with a PA120.3 and 9 fans

James

Edited by james_8970, 20 January 2008 - 08:18 PM.

[stettybet0]

If they did indeed become that fast, the CPU would become a huge bottleneck as it wouldn't be able to address enough information to the GPU to process.

The GPU has been the bottleneck since the Core 2s were released, isn't time for the CPU to have a turn?

But you are right, I don't think they will be 3 times faster... but if the 9800GTX really does end up having 1 billion+ transistors and 1GB of memory on a 512-bit bus, I don't think it is too far fetched to suggest it might be around 2 times more powerful than the 8800GTX.

[james_8970]

But you are right, I don't think they will be 3 times faster... but if the 9800GTX really does end up having 1 billion+ transistors and 1GB of memory on a 512-bit bus, I don't think it is too far fetched to suggest it might be around 2 times more powerful than the 8800GTX.

Looking at history, every new generation seem to produce about a 15-30% gain over the last, I wouldn't expect anything more.
As we saw with the HD2900XT, even though something may look good on paper, it doesn't mean squat in real world performance.
The HD2900XT was far more innovative then the 8000GTX in a large number of areas (the ring bus, first to have the 512bit bus, 80nm manufacturing etc.), but this didn't lead to anything.
Till the product is actually released I'm not going to believe much, ever since 8 months ago, a lot of products have been delayed and overhyped, I won't be surprised if the 9 series becomes the next thing.

The GPU has been the bottleneck since the Core 2s were released, isn't time for the CPU to have a turn?

While CPU's are indeed much less powerful then a GPU, I think people tend to overexagerate the CPU's and bottlenecks. Of course a 2.4GHz CPU will have lower FPS then a 2.6GHz CPU, but that doesn't mean a bottleneck.

James

[stettybet0]

I was saying that the GPU is the bottleneck currently, at least in a system with a Core 2 CPU. My 1ghz CPU OC provides minimal FPS increase on the very newest games with tons of physics, but no increase on older games. My GPU OC, on the other hand, raises FPS in just about every game.

And about the 9 series becoming the next thing to be delayed and over hyped... We'll see about over hyped, but it has already been delayed. Originally it was going to be released in November of last year, now the true 9 series won't be coming till the summer. You don't know how much I wish that AMD would get its act together and compete on both the CPU and GPU fronts to accelerate the arrival of new products to the market.