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K, just curious why you recommend the Intel chip over the AMD and why the dual core and not the quad core. Also, why vista 32bit and not 64bit?

Unless you use mutimedia applications you won't see the benefits of a quad core in the immediate future.
32bit because there isn't adaquate support for 64bit at the moment and unless you plan on using more then 3GB of RAM (32bit is limited to 3.3GB) there is no reason to go 64bit.
Intel over AMD because Intel is superior then AMD in the higher end. To be honest, AMD's quad cores arn't all that attractive right now.
If you want a quad core then go with Intel's Q6600, but you'd need to downgrade something to do so.

that mobo could get a change. like http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813188015 it costs more, but its better when your current card is out dated then you can just SLI 2 of them to be able to support games again in like 2-3 years.

The P35 is a much better chipset over the 680i. Never SLI unless you want more then two monitors or plan on purchasing two of the best video cards on the market.
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so if I make small videos with windows MM and listen to music, I wont need quad core?

and games coming out in DX10 wont require 64bit?

Intel over AMD because Intel is superior then AMD in the higher end.


what do you mean?
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so if I make small videos with windows MM and listen to music, I wont need quad core?

If you edit videos then it might be worth trying to squeeze a quad core in there, but you will lose GPU performance. There will be a trade off.

and games coming out in DX10 wont require 64bit?

Not at all. Maybe DX11 or something down the road, but not DX10.

what do you mean?

AMD has better chips for your dollars in the budget end, meaning sub $900 budgets. In your case Intel is much better. Ever since the release of Core2duo's in july of 2006, AMD hasn't be able to release a product that can compete at a similar clock level.
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Edited by james_8970, 04 February 2008 - 08:49 PM.

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okay, so this is the kick [bleep] system that will play Crysis and FSX at max?

hard drive http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148288
motherboard http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128059
CPU http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115037
DVD Rom http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827129009
Power supply http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817812005
Video Card http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150252
Case http://www.newegg.co.....Tpk=antec+900
OS http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116202
Memory http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820146673


do I need a floppy drive (I cant imagine needing one), eithernet (or is it part of the MoBo), sound card, are all fans included?
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okay, so this is the kick [bleep] system that will play Crysis and FSX at max?

Nope, both will bring any high end computer to its knees.

do I need a floppy drive

If you were doing RAID I would suggest it, but since you're not, don't worry about buying one.

eithernet (or is it part of the MoBo), sound card,

What's intergraded into the mobo will do fine.

are all fans included?

Yes.

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close to max?
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Hi there,

I think you should be able to run settings on high with playable frame-rates, but it also depends on what resolution your screen is. If you set everything on ultra-high, it will be un-playable. Even on mid settings, I thought the demo looked pretty good at 1680x1050, and on a 1280x1024 screen it runs on high and looks great.

Troy

EDIT: Either way, this is one good-looking system build you've got going here :)

Edited by troy, 05 February 2008 - 12:36 AM.

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I also enjoy playing BFV, BF2, Far Cry, and other games like them, will this run those no problem too?

I have a Samsung 22in LCD with 3000:1 contrast ratio (2232BW) and I really like it, I run the resolution at 1680x1050, so you think this should all work fine then? Glad I can get it all at one place too (newegg) save me on S&H.
I'm also curious about the DVD rom selected, I see it's SATA, I have no experiance with SATA at all and to save a few dollars, I already have a Sony DRU-810A DVD RW drive, will this still work fine or is there an advantage to the one posted over this one other then speeds?

http://www.hardwarez...i...=29&id=1737

Edited by spookymufu, 05 February 2008 - 08:39 AM.

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I have the same monitor and similar setup up. You'll be able to play crysis at high with a few settings on medium at 1680x1050. You will not be able to enable AA or AF.

I also enjoy playing BFV, BF2, Far Cry, and other games like them, will this run those no problem too?

Yes.

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no AA or AF...gasp!!!

is Crysis the hardest impacting graphics game out right now?
I see a lot of reviews using Crysis as a benchmark.

For me a game has to look good, I will even put it above game play, I have to have my games looking as good as possible with good fps, so I really want a system that will crank on games. The graphics are at the top for me. Have have have to look good, no jaggys or blotchy textures, clean and crisp video is a must.

Also I want to say I really appreciate you guys helping me out here, I cant afford to buy a system that wont live up to my expectations again..
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^ then your going to have to spend ALOT more money.

Crysis is the currently the highest strain on computers. In both Graphics and Physics too. So in order to support it to the "MAX" you would need a Excellent Proc AND GPU.

I'm looking at somewhere around 2k and it still wouldn't play very well in 1680x1050 (full AA,AF)

Edited by Rocknrollcows, 05 February 2008 - 01:47 PM.

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no AA or AF...gasp!!!

is Crysis the hardest impacting graphics game out right now?
I see a lot of reviews using Crysis as a benchmark.

For me a game has to look good, I will even put it above game play, I have to have my games looking as good as possible with good fps, so I really want a system that will crank on games. The graphics are at the top for me. Have have have to look good, no jaggys or blotchy textures, clean and crisp video is a must.

It's not possible at this time. Crysis is a very demanding game and it's supposed to be so demanding that it'll take a video card that won't be released for another two years to play it at it's full potential. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you won't be playing this game on very high settings with AA and AF. Regardless, Crysis looks stunning at high and I don't find jaggies to be much of a problem at this resolution.
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okay, so as long as I play my older games and maybe a few newer ones (but not crysis) this should should be able to play maxed out with AA and AF?

okay, looks like we might have a winner.....

newegg has everything except the CPU, the total is $1123.00, a bit more then I was looking at but not bad. Does anyone know of a free or discount shipping code for newegg?

Edited by spookymufu, 05 February 2008 - 03:18 PM.

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okay, so as long as I play my older games and maybe a few newer ones (but not crysis) this should should be able to play maxed out with AA and AF?

okay, looks like we might have a winner.....

newegg has everything except the CPU, the total is $1123.00, a bit more then I was looking at but not bad. Does anyone know of a free or discount shipping code for newegg?


yes.

um, i don't think there are any kinds of codes.
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okay, one last thing (I think), this system you put together for me will run circles around the HP one I posted in the first post for sure?

Sorry for the dumb questions, but like I said, I havent kept up with parts for the last 4 years, my last video card (and one I use currently) is a GeForce FX5900 Ultra so you see how far behind the times I am.
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