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Building system, need help with components


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mfarre03

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This will be the second system I have ever built. First system is what I am using now that doesn't seem to run a few of my games, ie. Rainbow Six Vegas:

Abit Nf-7 Mobo
Athlon 2600+
Gigabyte 9600 pro
1gb Ballistix pc3200
Dell 19" monitor...

I now want to build something that will run my first person shooter games and keep me on the cheap. Here are the components I picked out. What do you guys think? Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!!



http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128081
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835185042
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148136
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150229
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811156098
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835100007
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103194
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Edited by mfarre03, 17 February 2008 - 01:23 AM.

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Rocknrollcows

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that card won't be able to play many games O.o

if you want to stay cheap, wait until the 28th and buy the new 9600gt from Nvidia. or get a 8800gt.

DO NOT BUY 8600gt UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.


heres a cheap 8800gt
http://www.ncixus.co.....y Technology/
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What is your budget?

You definitely need some RAM for that build, and you are going to want a better power supply and video card. As Rock said, the 9600GT will be a great buy for the money when it is released (which will be on either February 19th or February 21st... not sure where he is getting his facts... in fact, it's already been released in some parts of Europe.). It should offer over 100% more gaming performance than a 8600GT.

Also, if gaming is your thing, I'd recommend going with an Intel CPU, as their Core 2 Duo line-up dominates AMD's X2 line-up.

Lastly, do you plan on overclocking? If not, then stick with the stock heatsink and fan.
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I wanted to stick to around $650 and this was the Ram I forgot to include in my original post:


http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820146565


I probably won't overclock, don't think so anyway. I went with the Athlon, it just seemed for the money that I was spending that I was getting a great chip and the MOBO would be upgradable in a couple years if I wanted.

I was lost when it came to the video card, I don't want to spend too much more then $100. I have too many other hobbies that I spend my money on lol and can't aford to drop $1500 on a new computer w/o monitor.

I wish I could spend $200 but I don't think I can.

Edited by mfarre03, 17 February 2008 - 09:27 AM.

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What is your budget?

You definitely need some RAM for that build, and you are going to want a better power supply and video card. As Rock said, the 9600GT will be a great buy for the money when it is released (which will be on either February 19th or February 21st... not sure where he is getting his facts... in fact, it's already been released in some parts of Europe.). It should offer over 100% more gaming performance than a 8600GT.

Also, if gaming is your thing, I'd recommend going with an Intel CPU, as their Core 2 Duo line-up dominates AMD's X2 line-up.

Lastly, do you plan on overclocking? If not, then stick with the stock heatsink and fan.



http://www.theinquir...layed-yet-again

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I'm not a big fan of buying things right when they come out, like them to get the bugs out for me, I don't want to be a Beta tester for Invidia! LOL

I take it the 500watt PSU in the SMilodon isn't any good?

What about the Ultra Grid atx case w/ 700 watt? What PSU would you guys recommend?
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What is your budget?

You definitely need some RAM for that build, and you are going to want a better power supply and video card. As Rock said, the 9600GT will be a great buy for the money when it is released (which will be on either February 19th or February 21st... not sure where he is getting his facts... in fact, it's already been released in some parts of Europe.). It should offer over 100% more gaming performance than a 8600GT.

Also, if gaming is your thing, I'd recommend going with an Intel CPU, as their Core 2 Duo line-up dominates AMD's X2 line-up.

Lastly, do you plan on overclocking? If not, then stick with the stock heatsink and fan.



http://www.theinquir...layed-yet-again

:)

That's just the inquirer not getting their facts straight. Take what the inquirer, fudzilla and others rumors sites have to say with a grain of salt. They have a very poor reputation of being correct.
James

Edited by james_8970, 17 February 2008 - 03:54 PM.

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Back to the question's that I started with, lol. So my 8600GT is a POS, I can't afford $200+ for an 8800GT, what should I be looking at?

What Powersupply should I buy? Under $100?

Ultra Grid ATX case w/700 PSU?

Thanks,
Mike




This will be the second system I have ever built. First system is what I am using now that doesn't seem to run a few of my games, ie. Rainbow Six Vegas:

Abit Nf-7 Mobo
Athlon 2600+
Gigabyte 9600 pro
1gb Ballistix pc3200
Dell 19" monitor...

I now want to build something that will run my first person shooter games and keep me on the cheap. Here are the components I picked out. What do you guys think? Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!!



http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128081
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835185042
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148136
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150229
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811156098
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835100007
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103194
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mfarre03

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BTT, this board sure isn't much help...are there any other boards that are better?>
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You have already mentioned that you won't be overclocking and already have a monitor, therefore I suggest the following. While it won't be the best of the best, it should manage to get you by in games for the time being, but don't expect to play at high settings. As for these boards being unhelpful, I strongly disagree.
I suggest the following, it's a build that we worked out behind the curtains and will be pinning it shortly.

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA770-DS3
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane
Operating System: Vista Premium
RAM: G.Skill 2GB
Video Card: HIS x1650pro
Hard Drive: 250GB 7200.10
Optical Drive: Pioneer SATA DVD Burner
Case - Power Supply: Antec Sonata III
Keyboard - Mouse: Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000

If you already have a keyboard, hard drive, OS and case let me know because some adjustments will need to be made to this build, particularly in the GPU area.
If you need everything mentioned above, I highly suggest breaking your budget a bit for a better CPU/GPU. Even an additional 50$ will bring you a long way.
James

Edited by james_8970, 18 February 2008 - 04:26 PM.

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Very cool, thats pretty much what I came up with, except had the 5000+ Black.

What if I put an x1650 AGP card in my current system? Think I could get a year out of it?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102073

Thanks again,
Mike
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Off the top of my head I can see that rainbow six won't run very well if at all. It needs a powerful CPU to run.
James

Edited by james_8970, 18 February 2008 - 05:22 PM.

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Hi there,

What if I put an x1650 AGP card in my current system? Think I could get a year out of it?

You can not put an AGP card into a PCI-Express motherboard.

If you are looking to run the game a little better, as James has mentioned, you would need a better processor. Intel's offerings become better for the performance/price ratio, so I would look at purchasing a Core 2 Duo E8200 and changing the motherboard for compatibility - a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L cannot be beat for performance and price...

Although if you start considering these options, they'd most probably start to head over your allocated budget, not to mention you'd find your graphics card wanting... :)

Cheers

Troy
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You can not put an AGP card into a PCI-Express motherboard.

His current motherboard is AGP.

If he was to considering a new CPU (s)he would have to purchase new memory, a new PSU (his current PSU only has a 20pin motherboard connector) and a motherboard. You'd be effectively rebuilding the computer.
James
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His current motherboard is AGP.

Ahhhh yes, of course :) I was thinking for the new build option - sorry!

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