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ziggy16

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I am building a semi low cost gamer and I have come up with two possible builds..one is Intel based and the other AMD. PLease look at both and tell me which you would think is best bang for the buck, and the best choice for me. Looking at my wishlist will require you to have a newegg account i think, so if u need me to post the titles to my wishlist so u can view it publicly, please let me know. Thanks in advance guys/gals.

https://secure.neweg....asp?ID=7707352

https://secure.neweg....asp?ID=9185448
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Hi ziggy16, welcome to Geeks to Go!

I can't view either of those builds, and I cannot register as I live in Australia. :)

If you could make them public, post them here, or even perhaps post a screenshot, it would be helpful.

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hey thanks a lot, sorry that you cant view it. See if this works :

http://secure.newegg...tNumber=7707352

^if you cant see that, go to newegg.com and go to wishlists, public wishlists, and search *UPDATED* and then click the one that was posted on 4/28.

http://secure.newegg...tNumber=9185448

^ if that wont work either..do the same as above and search for DK and click the one posted on 5/7

Let me know how it goes!
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Is your budget $1000? You can make that Intel build a lot better with $1000 budget (as what you have with your AMD build)

Intel Build
I would change the video card to XFX 8800GT 512MB as this is way better than the 8800GTS 320MB you listed.

Is there a reason you went with the DFI board? I've heard that its good for overclocking (if you have experience with OC'ing as DFI boards have advance OC'ing features). If you're not overclocking then I'd suggest going with a Gigabyte EP35-DS3L

Also I'll change the power supply to this Corsair 550W as its better quality and that Rosewill is out of stock.


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Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: Nine Hundred
Item #: N82E16811129021

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$139.99 $139.99

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GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: GA-P35-DS3L
Item #: N82E16813128059

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$99.99 $99.99

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XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: PVT88PYDF4
Item #: N82E16814150252

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$191.99 -$12.00 Instant $179.99

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CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 Power Supply - Retail
Model #: CMPSU-550VX
Item #: N82E16817139004

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$104.99 -$5.00 Instant $99.99

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Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6850
Item #: N82E16819115028

Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

In Stock
$184.99 $184.99

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G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Model #: F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
Item #: N82E16820231098

Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

In Stock
$84.99 -$40.00 Instant $44.99

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Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD1600AAJS
Item #: N82E16822136075

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$47.99 $47.99

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Pioneer 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model DVR-215DBK - OEM
Model #: DVR-215DBK
Item #: N82E16827129020

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$30.99 $30.99

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ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Model #: ACFZ7-PRO
Item #: N82E16835186134

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$36.99 -$10.00 Instant $26.99
Subtotal: $855.91

Edited by kamille316, 09 May 2008 - 11:54 AM.

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Thanks for your comments. The thing to note here in my builds are that yes i do plan to OC..but i feel like the AMD build will leave me with the most options. I cant use SLI with my intel build if i wanted to in the future. My computer i have now is an amd chip and its been fine for me these past 2 years. The thing with the 8800gt is that it only has an HDTV out.. and no s-video..as far as i know..and the HD radeon's have the s-vid ( i like to hook up my tv as a monitor sometimes with my wireless keyboard and mouse so i can sit on my futon). My AMD build is about $820 bc i am not going to use crossfire right away. Also there are some mail in rebates an what not, so im just under $800, which is where i would like to stay. All in all though, is the intel or AMD the one i want to go with?
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Hi there,

Just a few comments on kamille316's post, and the build so far:

You will be able to overclock on the Gigabyte motherboard. Depending on how far you wish to overclock, it may be worth heading for the DFI, but considering that you are intending to use air-cooling, I would stick with the Gigabyte.

I agree that an Intel build will be a much better option for you. If you can find it, get the E8400 over the E6850, but it's no biggie - they're both excellent processors that will run and overclock well.

I prefer Seagate hard drives as they offer a 5-year warranty over Western Digital's 3 years.

If you are not intending to run SLI or Crossfire immediately, don't bother. By the time you're ready to upgrade, just purchase the newest available card and sell the old one to help fund it.

Cheers

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OK thanks a lot! I am taking your suggestions into consideration. Waiting to hear back from a few others, but i think one way or another I have a pretty solid build all in all. I will probably order the parts the parts in a week or two (once i start work) and I will post some results on here, or if i have any issues. Thanks again.
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OK so I took your guys advice and this is what I now have..

Case: Antec 900
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129021

PSU: Rosewill 550W
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182030

Motherboard: Gigabite GA-P35
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128059

Video Card: GeForce 8800GT
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150252

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115029

Memory: G.Skill DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231144

Hard Drive: WD 160Gig 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136075

HSF: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835186134

Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835100007

Total: $777.91
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I would drop the Roswill PSU and pick up a higher quality unit. This would be ideal: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139004 or for a little cheaper you could go with this: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817812002.

Also drop the artic silver compound. The Artic Cooling cooler come with the thermal paste pre-applied. You won't see a performance increase with metalic grease vs ceramic grease so it will not be worth the $6 and the mess.
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Ok..thanks for that.. so here is the updated build. I will prob. go ahead and order this sometime within a week or two, unless there is anymore issues anybody can see? The PSU is the only upgrade here, and i got rid of the thermal paste. Is the modular cabling something I would really want here or no? I don't really think I am going to have a huge mess in there, plus this PSU can be used later if i want to use SLI or CF.

Case: Antec 900
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129021

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139004

Motherboard: Gigabite GA-P35
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128059

Video Card: GeForce 8800GT
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150252

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115029

Memory: G.Skill DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231144

Hard Drive: WD 160Gig 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136075

HSF: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835186134

Total: $811.92
W/Rebates: $726.92 <---- Not bad at all.
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P.S.- How long will those rebates take to get back to me? I mailed a rebate into Logitech about... 2.5 to 3 weeks ago, and I still haven't gotten anything back.
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Hi there,

Rebates are never "guaranteed" money... I'm waiting on one myself - I just sent them a "reminder" email! If I were you, I would contact them.

Your build is looking quite similar to mine. :)

Cheers

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Hey, I don't know if this is an issue.. I think it is but...isn't that 8800gt a PCIe 2.0?? And that mobo is only PCIe regular..Won't This cause a conflict?
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Hi there,

No this won't cause any conflicts - I am running a combination like this right now with no problems. The two are fully backward compatible. :)

Cheers

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Haha, ok I thought that, but won't it be sort of like playing a ps1 game, on a ps2? Would it not let the card hit its limits? Also, do you think I should OC my card as well? I know my antec 900 has crazy cooling power...and am def. going to OC the cpu, and I hear the ram is capable of it as well.
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