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I recently reinstalled windows xp home on my pc. now i keep getting a delay write failuer on F drive. I cant seem to find answers on windows web site to resolve the situation. can you please help. :)
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Hi traindriver

What event(s) triggers the error?

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Abydos
un zipping files and doing several things at once,ie; emailing,on the net and playing music at the same time.
downloading and playing a game at the same time and unzipping more than one file at a time (this is when it mostly happens).

I have downloaded the latest drives for my pc and still no help. (microsoft sugestion)
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Hi traindriver

Hmm, have done some search on the web.
And it seems there are really many different
instances of this message.

Some things to clarify:

Is it only on the F:\ ?
Is F:\ a separate HD or partition?
Is F:\ containing a operating system?
What is the exact error message?
Is your BIOS updated?
Is your BIOS set to default settings?
Is Chip set drivers updated?

and lastly, could you post make/model of your PC and motherboard.

quite a few questions, but try answer them as good as you can. It will help to narrow things down.

I won't be online for several hours from now and on. (Bed-time, its 1:31 here in Denmark, and gotta work tomorrow.)
But hopefully, others may join with advice, suggestions or solution.

Regards Abydos
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Abydos

Is it only on the F:\ ? Yes
Is F:\ a separate HD or partition? seperate HD
Is F:\ containing a operating system? No
What is the exact error message?
[/color Windows was unable to save all the data for the file F:\. The file data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to save this file elseware.

Is your BIOS updated? yes
Is your BIOS set to default settings? Don't know
Is Chip set drivers updated? Yes

and lastly, could you post make/model of your PC and motherboard.

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the only information that may help is;
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name USER-31F3A43DDA
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Model System Product Name
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 79 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~2009 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies, LTD ASUS M2N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 0307, 14/07/2006
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale Australia
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
User Name USER-31F3A43DDA\
Time Zone W. Australia Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 524.54 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.95 GB
Page File Space 2.40 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

And the mother board is an ASUS M2N-SLI DELUXE :)
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Hi Traindriver

Great info :)

Now, running over it, the first thing that struck me as being odd, is this:

Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 524.54 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.95 GB
Page File Space 2.40 GB

Its very unusual that it is using half you physical memory and hardly no
virtual memory at all.

Is your graphic onboard with shared RAM?

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Seeing that F:\ is a separate HD, I would like you to check if "Enable write caching on the disk"
is on. To check this, follow the procedure below.

Right-click your HD (F:\)
Click the Hardware tab.
Click the HD and then Select properties
Click the policies tab

There you can see if theres a checkmark / Tick in "Enable write caching on the disk"
Remove the Checkmark / Tick (This is temporarily)

Note: Removing this checkmark / Tick may decrease HD perfomance.

Does this solve the problem with the delayed write failure?

If it doesn't, backtrack, and replace the Checkmark / Tick.


Regards Abydos

Edited by Abydos, 14 June 2008 - 01:43 AM.

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Is your graphic onboard with shared RAM? I wouldnt know.
As the sugestion before, unfortunately it didn't work. It made it worse.
So I changed it back.

BUT I have just found out today that my flat mate cleaned the dust out of my pc when it was open. I opened it to see if the HD was working or dead. He now informs me that he pulled ta able to my F drive and repluged it back when windows was relinstalled. I chewed him a new A**.
Would this have any problem with the delay write failure and this must also explain why I now have a F drive and the PC thinks that its an external.
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Hi Traindriver

hmm, there could be problems with unplugging the
the HD after re-install of windows if you have installed
programs on the "F" drive which need to make references
to the C drive. Altering the install / reference path will
"confuse" programs, and often to the extend were they
don't work, make a lot of errors or result in long respond
time.

Your HD's, have they been set up as RAID??(Now or before)


I would like you to do / check the following:

Right-click "MyComputer", and then click Properties.
Click the advanced tab.
Under performance, click settings.
Under performance options, click the advanced tab.
Under memory usage, select Programs if not already selected.
Click Ok.

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To determine what Graphics you have, do the following: (There are other ways, I
just finds this to be the easiest)

Goto Start, click Run, type in the Run-box: Dxdiag
Just answer No to the following prompt (If any)
Find the Screen / Monitor tab. (Should be the third)

The name and memory of the card will do as info.


Regards Abydos
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Abydos I hope this is what you want


System Information
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Time of this report: 7/15/2008, 04:03:08
Machine name: USER-31F3A43DDA
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0GHz
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 457MB used, 2001MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7600 GS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0392&SUBSYS_82141043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7516 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/2/2008 22:46:00, 6108160 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/2/2008 22:46:00, 6554496 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-40D2-11CF-AF6E-1FA200C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0392
SubSys ID: 0x82141043
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
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Hi Traindriver

A lot of info.
Card type and card memory would have been enough, but I think
I'll survive. :)

And the your graphic card is not onboard. So no shared RAM.

Did you check this?

I would like you to do / check the following:

Right-click "MyComputer", and then click Properties.
Click the advanced tab.
Under performance, click settings.
Under performance options, click the advanced tab.
Under memory usage, select Programs if not already selected.
Click Ok.

Regards Abydos
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Did as you asked and it seemed to minimise the problem.
how do I make the computer think that my F HD is an internal HD instead of an external. (Which it is an internal/secondary HD) ? :)
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Did as you asked and it seemed to minimise the problem.


Hi Traindriver

What exactly do you mean by minimise, does the delayed write failure still appear? If yes, when?
And how do you reckon its minimised? Any specific's at this point is vital.

how do I make the computer think that my F HD is an internal HD instead of an external. (Which it is an internal/secondary HD) ? :)


First and foremost you should check in your BIOS, that its set to recognize HD's automatically.
That should be found in the general area of the BIOS, but it may differs from BIOS to BIOS.

To enter your BIOS:

Press DEL(ete) at first BIOS screen / "Beep"
Locate the area where you can set the BIOS to recognize HD's automatically
Set it to auto if not enabled already.
Remember to save settings if you had to change it.

If you can't find it, you can set it back to default settings, which most likely
would have it enabled by default. Note that any custom settings for your system
will be reset as well.

See if this solves the problem.

Regards Abydos
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