[leftlanetruckin]

not running. i had it set to manual because it would try to open when i booted up, causing the bsod! so i made it a manual deal in the start menu....
says "stopped". only option is to start it.
thanks

martin

Edited by leftlanetruckin, 01 February 2009 - 09:48 PM.

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Ok...we'll do this the old fashioned way. I'm still convinced we're looking for an incompatible driver.

Click the Start orb and type msconfig in the search box at the bottom of the start menu. Then click on the top entry in the search results.

In the configuration utility, under the "Services" tab check the box at the bottom to "Hide all Microsoft Services", then click on "Disable All". Apply the change and reboot. You'll receive a configuration alert when Windows starts...tick the box to not show it again and click "Ok".

Try AOL

[wannabe1]

Ok...we'll do this the old fashioned way. I'm still convinced we're looking for an incompatible driver.

Click the Start orb and type msconfig in the search box at the bottom of the start menu. Then click on the top entry in the search results.

In the configuration utility, under the "Services" tab check the box at the bottom to "Hide all Microsoft Services", then click on "Disable All". Apply the change and reboot. You'll receive a configuration alert when Windows starts...tick the box to not show it again and click "Ok".

Try AOL

[leftlanetruckin]

did that, and now aol wont start properly.
when i open it, it says i need to restart to finish installing files, i click restart and then it says the same thing over and over.....

[wannabe1]

In the msconfig window, what services are showing with the "Hide" box checked?

We're going to have to narrow this down a step at a time. This is a long topic...let me know if I start covering ground you and Artellos have already been to.

[leftlanetruckin]

there are @100 of them! all say microsoft next to them though. that right?
is there a way i can make a list by copy n paste or something similar?
at least those that are in the services section.
thanks

martin

Edited by leftlanetruckin, 01 February 2009 - 10:44 PM.

[wannabe1]

Unfortunately, there's no copy in the configuration utility.

Do you know how to do screenshots?

[leftlanetruckin]

Unfortunately, there's no copy in the configuration utility.

Do you know how to do screenshots?

no sir i do not.
i am looking right arent i? the screen that i went to where i clicked "hide all microsoft services".
the only boxes that are checked now are for things that are by microsoft.
i will start to type them all in mate.

many thanks

martin

[wannabe1]

If you have the "Hide all Microsoft Services" box checked, there should be few (if any) services with Microsoft by them. Just list the ones that are not by Microsoft...we're looking for a third party driver.

[leftlanetruckin]

application experience
application layer gateway service
background intelligent transfer
base filtering engine
certificate propagation (stopped)
cng key isolation
com + event system
com + system application (stopped)
computer browser (stopped)
cryptographic services
desktop window manager session manager
dfs replication (stopped)
dhcp client
diagnostic policy service
diagnostic service host (stopped)
diagnostic system host
distributed link tacking client
distributed transaction coordinator (stopped)
dns client
extensible authentication protocol
function discovery provider host (stopped)
function discovery resource publication (stopped)
group policy client
health key and certificate management (stopped)
human interface device access (stopped)
ike and authip ipsec keying modules
interactive services detection (stopped)
internet connection sharing (stopped)
ip helper
ipsec policy agent
ktmrm for distributed transaction coordinator
link-layer topology discovery mapper (stopped)
microsoft .net framework ngen v2.0 50727_x86 (stopped)
microsoft iscsi initiator service (stopped)
microsoft office diagnostic svc (stopped)
microsfot software shadow copy provider (stopped)
mulitmedia class scheduler
netlogon (stopped)
network access protection agent (stopped)
network connections
network list svc
network location awareness
network store interface svc
miscrosoft office diagnostics svc (stopped)
office source engine (stopped)
peer networking identity manager (stopped)
peer networking group (stopped)
program compatibility assistant
performance logs and alerts (stopped)
pnrp machine name publication (stopped)
peer name resolution protocol (stopped)
ipsec policy agent
protected storage (stopped)
quality windows audio video experience (stopped)
remote access auto connection (stopped)
remote access connection manager
remote registry (stopped)
remote procedure call locator (stopped)
security accounts manager
smart card (stopped)
task scheduler
smart card removal policy (stopped)
windows backup (stopped)
secondary logon
system event notification svc
terminal svc configuration (stopped)
internet connection sharing (stopped)
shell hardware detection
sl ui notification svc (stopped)
snmp trap (stopped)
print spooler
ssdp discovery
secure socket tunneling protocol svc
windows image aquisition
microsoft software shadow copy provider (stopped)
superfetch
tablet pc input svc
telephony
tpm base svcs (stopped)
themes
thread ordering server (stopped)
distributed link tracking client
windows module installer (stopped)
interactive services detection (stopped)
upnp device host
desktop windows manager session manager
virtual disk (stopped)
volume shadow copy (stopped)
windows connect now config registrar (stopped)
windows color system (stopped)
diagnostic service host (stopped)
diagnostic system host
webclient
windows event collector
problem reports and solutions control panel support (stopped)
windows error reporting svc
windows defender
winhttp web proxy auto-discovery svc (stopped)
windows management instrumentation
windows remote management (stopped)
wlan autoconfig
wmi performance adapter (stopped)
windows media player network sharing svc (stopped)
parental controls (stopped)
portable device enumerator svc
windows search
windows update
windows driver foundation - user mode driver framework

my fingers are falling off....lolol
thanks!

martin

[leftlanetruckin]

If you have the "Hide all Microsoft Services" box checked, there should be few (if any) services with Microsoft by them. Just list the ones that are not by Microsoft...we're looking for a third party driver.

oh crap.....rofl.
the box wasnt checked anymore, all those are by microsoft.
none of the others are checked when i recheck the hide all ms box.

there is however one that is showing as running, it is:

remote procedure call (rpc) net manufactured by: absolute software corp.

[wannabe1]

I compared all the running services with the error logs in the report...nothing there that would cause it to blue screen that I can see.

Download WhoCrashed, install it, and run it...see if it will shed any light on this. With our luck it'll tell us it's AOL...

If we can get it to stop crashing, we can zero in on the problem.

[leftlanetruckin]

here is the result!
the plot thickens.....

Analysis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Crash dump directory: C:\Windows\Minidump

Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.


No crash dumps have been found on your computer


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Conclusion
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Crash dumps are enabled and no crash dumps have been found on your computer. In case your computer does experience sudden reboots it is likely these are caused by malfunctioning hardware or power failure. Then it's suggested you contact the support department of the manufacturer of your system or test your system with a memory test utility for further investigation.

next....

many thanks

martin

Edited by leftlanetruckin, 02 February 2009 - 09:26 AM.

[leftlanetruckin]

as a last resort before re installing vista etc.
can i swap the hard drive from mine into my wifes laptop (same as mine) to see if the problem persists? that will tell me whether its hardware or software wont it?
i dont want to harm her laptop in any way, but figure swapping the hard drive wont hurt anything....
opinions?

thanks
martin

[Artellos]

as a last resort before re installing vista etc.
can i swap the hard drive from mine into my wifes laptop (same as mine) to see if the problem persists? that will tell me whether its hardware or software wont it?
i dont want to harm her laptop in any way, but figure swapping the hard drive wont hurt anything....
opinions?

thanks
martin

Hello martin,

That's correct.
It won't hurt your wife's laptop and you will figure out if it's hardware or software related.

Regards,
Olrik

[leftlanetruckin]

ok, we will give that a tr y when i get back home mate!

many thanks

martin