[mantona]

I'm building a new system (going to try to build a new system I should say) and need to know what the difference between these motherboards are. They are all within my budget but I am really not sure as to whether the most costly one will give me better performance or not?


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-87502G


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-P45842


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-P45Q82

I appreciate any comments you can give me.

Thank you
Mantona

Edited by mantona, 18 January 2009 - 11:35 AM.

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I'm building a new system (going to try to build a new system I should say) and need to know what the difference between these motherboards are. They are all within my budget but I am really not sure as to whether the most costly one will give me better performance or not?


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-87502G


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-P45842


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-P45Q82

I appreciate any comments you can give me.

Thank you
Mantona

Out of those 3 go with either of the intel setups. The AMD Phenom 8750 is the x3 chip and they are known to have some memory/cache conflicts with (BSOD) blue screen of death. IMO do not get the phenom x3. Although the phenom x4's are fixed and have no issues. The intel's core 2 architecture will spank the amd phenom architecture but the NEWER Phenom II are better performance than the older phenoms and another good alternative.

Between the core 2 duo and the core 2 quad I personally would pay the little increase in price for the quad because it would be more future proof as more and more games/ applications will take advantage of multiple cores.

Those msi boards are pretty good but in a bundle they usually wont be the most expensive boards though. Looks good overall.


Are you building this for gaming or not? If so what kind of performance in games are you expecting as you will need to concentrate more towards the video card department aswell.

[jrm20]

I'm building a new system (going to try to build a new system I should say) and need to know what the difference between these motherboards are. They are all within my budget but I am really not sure as to whether the most costly one will give me better performance or not?


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-87502G


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-P45842


http://www.novatech....html?MBB-P45Q82

I appreciate any comments you can give me.

Thank you
Mantona

Out of those 3 go with either of the intel setups. The AMD Phenom 8750 is the x3 chip and they are known to have some memory/cache conflicts with (BSOD) blue screen of death. IMO do not get the phenom x3. Although the phenom x4's are fixed and have no issues. The intel's core 2 architecture will spank the amd phenom architecture but the NEWER Phenom II are better performance than the older phenoms and another good alternative.

Between the core 2 duo and the core 2 quad I personally would pay the little increase in price for the quad because it would be more future proof as more and more games/ applications will take advantage of multiple cores.

Those msi boards are pretty good but in a bundle they usually wont be the most expensive boards though. Looks good overall.


Are you building this for gaming or not? If so what kind of performance in games are you expecting as you will need to concentrate more towards the video card department aswell.

[mantona]

Thank you for your comments. It has been very helpful.

I do a lot of photo editing manipulation and was wanting to get into video editing shortly. Desktop publishing is also a little slow on my machine.

I had my eye on the following card:

http://www.novatech.....html?NOV-98GT5

I don't do very much gaming.

Is there any doubts about the msi board? Just wondering

Thanks
Mantona

[jrm20]

Thank you for your comments. It has been very helpful.

I do a lot of photo editing manipulation and was wanting to get into video editing shortly. Desktop publishing is also a little slow on my machine.

I had my eye on the following card:

http://www.novatech.....html?NOV-98GT5

I don't do very much gaming.

Is there any doubts about the msi board? Just wondering

Thanks
Mantona

After carefully looking at the mobo and I researched for you about 10mins it looks like it is the MSI P45 Neo3-FR LGA 775 Intel P45 which is an alright mobo. They didn't specify which mobo it actually was on the site.

If you do get that mobo I read that you will need to get the latest bios updates if you have any random bsod or crashes. SO yes it is not the greatest mobo in my opinion as I would try and look for a different mobo or a totally different combo kit. Why don't you get the parts separate from a uk company? You can get someone like us to help pick all of the parts so you know it is all compatible.



**Edit about the video card**

That video card would be more than you actually need for video editing but if you have the budget I would recommend that card as they are pretty cheap for the performance now.

Edited by jrm20, 18 January 2009 - 02:36 PM.

[mantona]

I'm very unsure of joining all the bits up myself. Is it difficult?

[jrm20]

I'm very unsure of joining all the bits up myself. Is it difficult?

No it isn't difficult. Even if you bought that bundle from the site you will still have to install the mobo into a case and plug in certain cables, install the power supply etc.. It really is not hard at all.. Just take your time and keep yourself grounded to the bare metal of the case at all times or since you are new I recommend getting an anti static wrist band for like $8 which clips onto the cases metal and you have no worries. ESD is the only big issue (electro-static discharge) just keep yourself grounded to metal and your good to go. We have pinned threads on the site and you can even google how to put a pc together and I am sure you can do it.

You might even end up saving $50+ not going the bundled route and you will feel like you have accomplished something if you put the pc together..

[mantona]

Do you have any suggestions on what to purchase. I want to order from that company if possible.

Thanks
Ryan

[jrm20]

I wont edit the last post so you will see this new one.


Do you have any of the other parts to get this pc running?

Do you have a case, power supply and hard drive already or do you need to buy those also? If so what kind of case, psu, and hd do you have as it does matter. You will want to get a new high quality power supply (psu) also from a reputable company.

[jrm20]

Do you have any suggestions on what to purchase. I want to order from that company if possible.

Thanks
Ryan

I'm not from the UK but I have helped people before and some places have way better pricing such as scans.co.uk and misco, overclockers.co.uk..

[jrm20]

Good setup for the price and the quality of parts are way better than the bundle at novatech.
Cannot go wrong with this setup at all especially if you are wanting to do video editing and FUTURE PROOF I recommend the quad core.


http://www.scan.co.u...I-SATA-RAID-ATX


http://www.scan.co.u...ltiplier-Retail


http://www.scan.co.u...ed-CAS-5-5-5-18




Net Total

Carriage

VAT

£264.42

£6.99

£40.71
Total
£312.12


Like I said this is what happens when you buy parts separately, The price is maybe $15 more but the parts I picked out have much much higher quality than the bundle you were wanting. They didn't even specify the ram brand and specs LOL. In the bundles you always get cheap memory unless they specify. The mobo I picked out has nothing but good reviews and is a solid performer.

The q6600 I picked out will spank the q8200 also and it is usually about $10-$15 more.

Good luck.


You still need other parts to get this pc up and running though..

Power supply
hard drive
video card
case
A fan already comes included with the q6600 processor but you might want to upgrade to a higher quality one.

[mantona]

Thanks, the specs look great on those.

I have from my old system:
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Case black
680W power supply (Thermaltake Purepower 680W)
I will buy a new HDD for my main drive (thinking Samsung Spinpoint)

Do I need something to stick everything together with e.g. compound of some sort? What other precautions do I need to take? Is it just anti-static?

Do you think that another fan would be better?

Thanks
Mantona

[jrm20]

Thanks, the specs look great on those.

I have from my old system:
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Case black
680W power supply (Thermaltake Purepower 680W)
I will buy a new HDD for my main drive (thinking Samsung Spinpoint)

Do I need something to stick everything together with e.g. compound of some sort? What other precautions do I need to take? Is it just anti-static?

Do you think that another fan would be better?

Thanks
Mantona

Only thing you need thermal paste for is for the cpu fan/heatsink. They always come with some sort of thermal paste or either the stock intel fans come with a thermal pad that is already in place. I do recommend getting an aftermarket cpu fan as the intel stock fans are not the greatest as they have these push pin type setup which is not real reliable.

The included thermal paste with a fan is fine but if you want just a little better results you can go for some higher quality paste, not really needed totally up to you..

Anti static is pretty much the only thing, everything pops into place only 1 way. Just do not try to force something in if it is not supposed to go. The memory only goes in 1 way as the slot on the bottom is split up and has a notch. Just match up the notch to the notch on the mobo.. For the cpu just read the directions when you get it very simple install.. If you apply paste onto the cpu just a little goes a long way. Everything is plug and play it is so easy to build a pc..

[mantona]

Can you suggest a fan and thermal paste please from www.Scan.co.uk


Thank you for your help.

[mantona]

Also I forgot to ask you, do you think that everything will fit into the case ok and is my power supply good?

Thank you, you've been a really great help.
Mantona

[jrm20]

Also I forgot to ask you, do you think that everything will fit into the case ok and is my power supply good?

Thank you, you've been a really great help.
Mantona

Id rather you save your money and not get a new CPU so you can put that money towards the video card but I do know of a bracket and bolt set for $5 that will work on the STOCK Intel CPU and solve the crappy push pin problem. I would do this instead..

http://www.scan.co.u...75-Motherboards

All you do is take off the crappy push pins on the stock fan then install the backplate behind the mobo then put then screws in with a screw driver, simple and solves all problems for only $5 lol.. YES IT WILL FIT the STOCK fan and no more un-properly seated cpu fan. It will be much sturdier.

Your case is fine and your power supply should be good also.


Any other questions just post but I have work tomorrow early and will not be on until LATE at night so maybe someone else can help if needed.

Edited by jrm20, 18 January 2009 - 10:43 PM.