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Here is some info on the graphics, ethernet, and audio. Hope this helps.


Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)
Display

Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_524C&SUBSYS_00081002&REV_00\000800
Alloc resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 11 Mask: xDEB8
IO Range: Base=x03B0 End=x03BB Min=x03B0 Max=x03BB Alias=x04, Decode=x03
Base=x03C0 End=x03DF Min=x03C0 Max=x03DF Alias=x04, Decode=x03
Base=x9000 End=x90FF Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Memory Address Range: Base= x000A0000 End= x000AFFFF Min= x000A0000 Max= x000AFFFF
Base= x000B0000 End= x000BFFFF Min= x000B0000 Max= x000BFFFF
Base= xF8000000 End= xFBFFFFFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Base= xF0100000 End= xF0103FFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Base= x000C0000 End= x000C7FFF Min= x000C0000 Max= x000C7FFF
Base= xF0120000 End= xF013FFFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 11 Mask: xDEB8
IO Range: Base=x03B0 End=x03BB Min=x03B0 Max=x03BB Alias=x04, Decode=x03
Base=x03C0 End=x03DF Min=x03C0 Max=x03DF Alias=x04, Decode=x03
Base=x9000 End=x90FF Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Memory Address Range: Base= x000A0000 End= x000AFFFF Min= x000A0000 Max= x000AFFFF
Base= x000B0000 End= x000BFFFF Min= x000B0000 Max= x000BFFFF
Base= xF8000000 End= xFBFFFFFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Base= xF0100000 End= xF0103FFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Base= x000C0000 End= x000C7FFF Min= x000C0000 Max= x000C7FFF
Base= xF0120000 End= xF013FFFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Basic resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 0 Mask: xDEB8
IO Range: Base=x03B0 End=x03BB Min=x03B0 Max=x03BB Alias=x04, Decode=x03
Base=x03C0 End=x03DF Min=x03C0 Max=x03DF Alias=x04, Decode=x03
Base=x9000 End=x90FF Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Memory Address Range: Base= x000A0000 End= x000AFFFF Min= x000A0000 Max= x000AFFFF
Base= x000B0000 End= x000BFFFF Min= x000B0000 Max= x000BFFFF
Base= xF8000000 End= xFBFFFFFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Base= xF0100000 End= xF0103FFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Base= x000C0000 End= x000C7FFF Min= x000C0000 Max= x000C7FFF
Base= x00000000 End= x0001FFFF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
HW Revision: 000
Driver: Display\0000
Driver Date: 4-23-1999
Driver: vga.drv
File Size: 52080 (0xCB70)
File Date: 4/23/1999 10:22 PM
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
File Version: 4.10.1998

Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MONITOR\STC02CE\PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_524C&SUBSYS_00081002&REV_00_000800
Alloc resources: None
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: None
Driver: Monitor\0001
Driver Date: 4-23-1999



PCI Multimedia Audio Device
Unknown

This Device Has a Problem: Code=28 (0x1C)
The drivers for this device are not installed correctly. To install the driver
for this device, click the Driver tab, and then click Update Driver.
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_1274&DEV_1371&SUBSYS_13711274&REV_06\BUS_00&DEV_0E&FUNC_00
Alloc resources: Logical Configuration 0
IO Range: Base=x1400 End=x143F Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: Logical Configuration 0
IO Range: Base=x1400 End=x143F Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 0 Mask: xDEB8
IO Range: Base=x1400 End=x143F Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
HW Revision: 006
Driver: Driver Not Installed

PCI Ethernet Controller
Unknown

This Device Has a Problem: Code=28 (0x1C)
The drivers for this device are not installed correctly. To install the driver
for this device, click the Driver tab, and then click Update Driver.
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8139&SUBSYS_0027A0A0&REV_10\BUS_00&DEV_0D&FUNC_00
Alloc resources: Logical Configuration 0
IO Range: Base=x1000 End=x10FF Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Memory Address Range: Base= xF0000000 End= xF00000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: Logical Configuration 0
IO Range: Base=x1000 End=x10FF Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Memory Address Range: Base= xF0000000 End= xF00000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 0 Mask: xDEB8
IO Range: Base=x1000 End=x10FF Min=x0000 Max=xFFFF Alias=xFF, Decode=x00
Memory Address Range: Base= xF0000000 End= xF00000FF Min= x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
HW Revision: 016
Driver: Driver Not Installed
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maybe click on me
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are any of the drives found here ?
gateway drivers
I thought you had the network working.
Do you have any make and model numbers of the cards. The device id is not helping (odd)
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No none of the drives are found there. It gives a monitor driver, but it is for all Gateway Monitors. I have a KDS monitor CRT.

No, the network is not working. This computer did not come with highspeed capabilities. It just had a dial up card. I have about 3 or 4 other highspeed cards. Should I try another one?

I think I have not mentioned or you missed it. This computer has been completely disassembled and put back together. I bought tons of computer stuff as a group sale to help me get started in this hobby/Interest. I took the best looking video, sound, and highspeed adapters and put them in this computer. I had seen the inside of a computer just one time before I had done this...very inexperienced. More inexperienced than I am now. I have sold some of the cards on craigslist...I have no idea which ones would go to the gateway. I probably don't have them anymore.

I'm really sorry...I didn't know putting a different card in would be this much trouble when I did it. I just thought it would work. Now that I have become more experienced, I realize it's not that easy, especially pre-windows xp.

I feel that we have gone down the wrong path. If it is even possible, what needs to be done is find the individual driver for each card and install them seperate. This is where I need help. I have tried this and it seems the sites I end up on don't seem very reliable or trustworthy. Some want you to pay money. I don't have any cds to them or anything. They are all used cards and old like the computer is.

Sorry about that. I can pull the cards out and get some make and models off them if they are on there. Let me know, =(

Edited by Ferrari, 27 February 2009 - 07:06 PM.

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I'm really sorry...I didn't know putting a different card in would be this much trouble when I did it. I just thought it would work. Now that I have become more experienced, I realize it's not that easy, especially pre-windows xp.

Not a problem - this is how you learn. You get the same problems with xp.
Any info you can get off the cards would be great. Normally the pci\ven is enough to find the drivers. You should never have to buy drivers. what colour and size options do you get in the video properties.
If the screen is usable we may be best getting the network card going so you can connect to the internet and see if we can grab the drivers.(works sometimes but not always)
try this for the network card Realtek network driver
Be carefull not to click on the ad it is the small link under the big ad
Does your sound card have a place to plug in the phone. If yes then it may be a Riptide sound/modem combo card
which driverguide has.
This site is good if we can get you online driverguide
Cheers
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Edited by peterm, 28 February 2009 - 02:45 AM.

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I got a driver to work for the ethernet card. It wasn't the one you gave a link to, but the one I had got to work before. I was scared to try it because of all the errors that popped up before. However, that must of been from installing the firewall security.

When I click on IE, it goes to some msn set-up window. It is for setting up a modem, and there is no option to set up through a LAN setting. I messed around in the Network and Internet Options in the control panel, but I don't know what I should change, so I just left everything the way it was.

Do you know what I need to connect to the internet?

Should I install Everest? Would that info be helpful in finding a driver for the audio? And a better driver for the video?

Thanks,
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Should I install Everest?

Not yet. What version of IE are you using. ?
Try this
In IE Click on tools>Internet options>Connections tab>Setup. This should start a Wizzard. Choose connect to the internet. Click next, choose setup manually, Choose option 3 - connection always on. This should allow you to connect
providing you have a cable plugged in.

Does your audio card have a place for a phone to plug in?

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Peterm,

I don't know what version of IE. It's whatever version comes with 98se I guess, how can I tell?

I tried downloading version 6, but apparently the file size is only 480kb, which is what I assumed-you need to connect to the internet for that version to be installed or updated, something like that. That doesn't make any sense, but whatever. (why would a browsers set-up be part of connecting to the internet?) So, none the less, I could not connect to the internet.

Before all this, I ran the setup wizard and it went through all the steps, but when it tried to connect to my homepage google.com, it could not connect. I tried all the options or suggestions it recommended but it didn't help. Is there another browser besides version 6 that will work with 98? Does Firefox, or someone offer an old version?

It really seems that the computer is setup for dial up, if I could just get a version more used to LAN connections, or a basic browser outside of what comes with this computer, I think that might help.

Also, I use OpenDNS for my network, not sure if that matters-I'll try some things.

The audio card does not have a place for a phone plug.

I will continue to try some things until I here back from you, and should I try connecting without an Antivirus anyway?

Once we can get to the internet, I think we will see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Thanks,
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Need to know because its not clear.

Do you use a modem or a nic (network interface card).
A modem will be dialup and will have a spot for a phone line connection.
A nic card will be for cable and its connection will look like a phone connection BUT will be a little wider.
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It is a NIC card. Highspeed.

Is this how I should refer to those? NIC. Sometimes I say ethernet card or highspeed card. Sometimes I say NIC. In tech terms, is NIC the most appropriate and understandable?

Edited by Ferrari, 02 March 2009 - 02:25 PM.

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Ok 1st off what comes with 98 would be 5 0r 5.5 and both should work.
Open internet explorer Click on tools>Internet options>Connections tab> if there is anything under dial up click on it once to highlight then click on remove. Then click on never dial a connection. click apply click ok
run the wizzard again as I said before.
Do you have a cable connected to the machine?
Have you you done an ipconfig to see if you have an address ?

should I try connecting without an Antivirus anyway?

Yes we just want to see if you can connect - not go surfing the web.
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Peterm,

I googled how to do ipconfig.

This is some of what it says, (won't let me copy or paste)

ip address 0.0.0.0

Subnet Mask 0.0.0.0

DHCP 255.255.255.255

Everything else in that part is just blank.

Then,

my realtek adapter is listed

physical address 00-40-f4-a8-3f-a8

DHCP is enabled

ip address 169.254.105.33

subnet mask 255.255.0.0

DHCP Server 255.255.255.255

lease obtained 03 05 31 9:56:54 PM

Everything else is blank

Also, I went into network under the control panel and it has DNS disabled. Is that right?

If I enabled it...what do I put in the host name and domain name, and address, and all that?

Just a reminder, I use OpenDNS

Sorry for the delay, our schedules seem to not let us work on this rapidly, doing small task just once a day and then waiting another day for the next task is hard to keep motivated, ya know?

I'm trying to stick this out with ya,

Let me know...I don't know much about internet connections at all, or Command prompts or whatever. And when I do get into the internet options or network connections the windows look so different compared to XP.

Also, I can't go to IE through the Shortcut. When I double click on IE, it pulls up some MSN modem wizard. The only way I can get IE to try to pull up is when I do the set up wizard for setting up a new connections which still didn't work. When I try to go to google.com as my homepage it just simply says page cannot be displayed. If I retype google.com or blackle.com, then it prompts an error window of some sort and says "Internet Explorer could not open the search page"

I tried typing ping www.google.com > ping.txt All it says is Unknown host www.google.com

Hope that helps, I wish there was more I can do when I am waiting on your reply, but I just don't know what to do.

Thanks peterm,

Edited by Ferrari, 05 March 2009 - 10:28 PM.

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Sorry I forgot to mention about winipcfg (windows 98 for ipconfig)
Ok you are not getting an ip address from your router. Are you plugged into the router or modem directly?
an ip address starting with 169 is an internal address which means your computer is not connecting to the router or modem. what is your setup is it a modem to a router to your computer
or is it a combined modem router to your computer.
If it is a modem to router to computer can you plug the 98 to the modem directly?
then check your ip address if it stays at 169 then no use trying the internet it won't work.

Sorry for the delay, our schedules seem to not let us work on this rapidly, doing small task just once a day and then waiting another day for the next task is hard to keep motivated, ya know?

I'm trying to stick this out with ya,

Not a prob I check online every day.
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Well, my setup is this in detail...

Ethernet wire from the realtek NIC card to an RG (residential gateway) AT&T U-Verse. Its an all in one thing for TV, Phone, and Internet. Also, gives off wireless signal for wi-fi.

Is there something special I need to do?

Also, now when I double click on IE, it is actually opening up IE and not that MSN modem wizard thing. So, we did something! LOL


Thanks,

Edited by Ferrari, 06 March 2009 - 04:27 PM.

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Have you got any settings that restrict how many computers connect?
Can you plug in a socket you know that works
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