[enderw]

Hi all.. hoping for some help about this.. i talked to someone in the IRC chat but the issue was unable to be resolved. i've included a transcript here where the problem is described and one fix is attempted, but fails. any wisdom on the issue is highly appreciated.



<enderw> i've a small problem with my video iPod and Vista and my xbox 360
<enderw> this problem has been ocurring for quite a long time but i never bothered because it wasn't really a huge issue
<enderw> but whenever i plug my iPod into my Vista PC, an error window pops up saying...
<enderw> "do you want to scan and fix (ipod)?"
<enderw> and gives me two options: scan and fix, or cancel
<enderw> i'm fairly sure neither helps
<enderw> but anyway..
<enderw> i tried the fix located here:
<enderw> http://www.futureofr...comment-page-2/
<enderw> anyway, that fix seems to have worked for many of the people who commented on the article at the bottom
<enderw> but like a couple people there, the command prompt tells me
<enderw> "The type of file system is RAW. CHKDSK is not available for RAW drives."
<enderw> i do not know where to go from here
<Leurgy> a raw drive is not formatted
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<rstones12> thats alot of raw data their my computer help desk friend
<rstones12> lol
<rstones12> " raw " data... lol
<enderw> the reason i mention it's an xbox 360 issue as well is that whenever i plug it in, the xbox 360 doesn't even recognize that there's a portable device plugged it
<Leurgy> at least not in a way that the OS sees
<enderw> i suspect that as soon as the issue is ironed out on the computer, it should enable to 360 to recognize the device
<enderw> you say a RAW drive is not formatted.. does that mean to fix it it would have to be formatted?
<enderw> thus losing all my music?
i find it strange because the iPod works perfectly otherwise
<Leurgy> did you scan and fix?
<enderw> i think i've done that once before, but i was always hesitant because i figured Vista would probably reformat it or something
<enderw> other commenters on that article and in other places on the web say scan and fix does nothing; the problem still exists
<enderw> i suppose i can try it right now just to be sure
<enderw> shall i?
<Leurgy> I would
<enderw> ok
<enderw> one moment
<Leurgy> you have backups of course
<enderw> not really
<enderw> i got most of this music when i had my old computer
<enderw> and i gave that to my parents
<enderw> so i formatted it
<Leurgy> well then scan and fix at your peril
<enderw> haha
ok, i clicked scan and fix and it gave me a progress bar and two check boxes
<enderw> the checkboxes are
<enderw> "automatically fix file system errors"
<enderw> and
<enderw> "scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors"
<rstones12> the storm rolled in
<enderw> the first one was automatically checked
<Leurgy> thats a scandisk
<Leurgy> if you automatically fix it may bork some data
<enderw> that's what i'm afraid of
<Leurgy> well then don't do that
<Leurgy> scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors you can do

at this point i performed the scan. here's the next bit:

ok, it says "some problems were found and fixed" and goes into a long paragraph
<enderw> let's see if this did it
<enderw> nope, continues with the scan and fix prompt
<enderw> but my files are safe

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"some problems were found and fixed"

This means it fixed some of the problems. The dirty bit is still set.

ok, it says "some problems were found and fixed" and goes into a long paragraph

Please post: the long paragraph

Plug in your Ipod, click start, right click computer, double click manage, then Disk management.
Please take a snap shot of that and send it with your next reply.

Edited by isimaster, 21 March 2009 - 01:36 PM.

[isimaster]

"some problems were found and fixed"

This means it fixed some of the problems. The dirty bit is still set.

ok, it says "some problems were found and fixed" and goes into a long paragraph

Please post: the long paragraph

Plug in your Ipod, click start, right click computer, double click manage, then Disk management.
Please take a snap shot of that and send it with your next reply.

Edited by isimaster, 21 March 2009 - 01:36 PM.

[enderw]

"some problems were found and fixed"

This means it fixed some of the problems. The dirty bit is still set.

ok, it says "some problems were found and fixed" and goes into a long paragraph

Please post: the long paragraph

Plug in your Ipod, click start, right click computer, double click manage, then Disk management.
Please take a snap shot of that and send it with your next reply.

after seeing the "some problems were found and fixed" screen, it says to then run chkdsk /f, so i did, but it again returned the "RAW" message, so no progress there.

Edited by enderw, 21 March 2009 - 05:32 PM.

[isimaster]

The first Part of Dive F: has 78MB unallocated (ie RAW). When a drive is formatted it creates a table of the sectors within that partition. chkdsk uses that table to scan the partition. To check to see if your F: drives bit is set to dirty. Right click command prompt, run as administrator, At the command prompt: fsutil dirty query F:

To specify the F: and fix:
Use this command: chkdsk f: /f

If you want to stop autochk for just the F:(this is the prog that is really run when you plug in your Ipod and is used to check your C:)
chkntfs /x f: If you want to restart checking: chkntfs /d

WARNING: Most of the time when drives are setup with an unformatted piece in the front, it is for a reason.
I don't own an Ipod, so I'm not positive why they have done this.

You could also:
1. Format that piece (Righ click on unallocated space), the only problem is it will change your drive letters. You can change the drive letters back in disc management.

2. Use a (partition magic for example) utility to expand your F:, to the left, which will give you an additional 78MB.

Edited by isimaster, 23 March 2009 - 02:41 PM.