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daftdunki

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Windows XP Media Center Edition Service Pack 3 (build 2600) DIXONSXP Ei 314
System Serial Number: 910300800600N264512984
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
3.20 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
16 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: DIXONSXP RC4107MA-RS2H
Serial Number: UYCF64406711
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 09/05/2006

also has the ati radeon xpress 200


this is an onboard system

i love to play Worldof Warcraft, i used to play on this pc, but since a monitor upgrade it freezes
all the time,

can i upgrade my graphics card to the one below


1024MB ATI Radeon HD4670

if so how?????

as i can see no slots in the back.so where could it fit please help thanks
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RC4107MA-RS2H = Foxconn RC4107MA-RS2H.
There are better cards than the 4670 but anything will be better than the onboard graphics. That computer is three years old though, so you do run the risk of feeding it a graphics card that's better than the rest of the entire system. As to where it fits - inside the case :)
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three years old h, but having said that its still fast
enough n therefore good enough not warrant a full replacement
besides 70 GBP aint too much


the alternative is how can i get WoW to run on thispc
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the other alternative would be to utilise any onboard expansion slots,,,,,,does this have any ....so i can upgrade it to 128mb or more because at64mb it not so good
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Please download CPUz from my signature below

1: Save it to your desktop.
2: Click on the icon it creates and let it run
3: I need the following information from it.
4: First click on the Mainboard tab at the top of the window and give me Manufacturer and Model number it shows
5: Cllick on the Memory tab and give me the Type and Size of memory it shows.
6: Click on the SPD tab and get me the Max Bandwidth line information.

Please include in your next reply
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this is for raffer61

make dixonsxp
mod RC4107MAR-S2H

mem ddr2 1024 mbytes


max bandwidth PC2 5300 (333mhz)

hope this helps
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Yes thank you, that lets us know that your system has enough memory. now if WOW's minimum requirements for memory are no more then one gig of memory in the system then we are ok.
Now Neil can suggest a suitable video card for you.

I might suggest you:

Go HERE and run the Crucial online scanner.
This will give you the exact memory configuration for your system. You do not have to buy the memory from there, but write down the information and if you need assistance in purchasing the upgrade memory GTG can assist with suggestions also.
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hi, thanks for the quick reply, according to gamespy.com.system req scans, i meet the basic for Wow.

however they suggest an upgrade to a driver.thats ok, but the radeon xpress is only 64mb the game minimum req,

the thing is i been playing here for ages at least 14months,i have all their expansions,and three characters at or near the 80lvl and until recently the game was more or less alriht.I originally ahd a monitor problem, it packed in,a 17'' one no none manu, i changed this to a HannsG HX191D
19''...........ok so the resolutoin has gone from 1024x728 to 1289 x 1024,would this have been the prob



I cant help thinking that the gonboard game card is not powerful enough to cope now.......
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CPU
Minimum: Pentium III or Athlon equivalent
You Have: 2 processors running - Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.20GHz
PASS
CPU Speed
Minimum: 800 MHz
You Have: 3.20 GHz Performance Rated at 4.80 GHz
PASS
System RAM
Minimum: 512 MB
You Have: 958 MB
PASS
Operating System
Minimum: Windows ME/2000/XP
You Have: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (Build Service Pack 32600)
PASS
Video Card
Minimum: 32 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform & Lighting (NVIDIA GeForce2+)
You Have: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series (ATI Radeon Xpress Series (0x5A61))
PASS
Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card

Video RAM: Required - 32 MB , You have - 64 MB
Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yes

Video Card Driver Version (DirectX)
Your driver version number is: 6.14.10.6925
FYI: Your video card driver version is provided for your information, but it is not part of this analysis. But proper video card driver versions are important to the proper operation of your product.
DirectX Version
Minimum: 9.0c (included)
You Have: 9.0c
PASS
Sound Card
Minimum: Yes
You Have: Realtek AC97 Audio
PASS
Sound Card Driver Version
Your driver version number is: 5.10
FYI: Your sound card driver version is provided for your information, but it is not part of this analysis. But proper sound card driver versions are important to the proper operation of your product.
Free Disk Space
Minimum: 6 GB
You Have: 7.2 GB
PASS
CD
Minimum: 4x CD-ROM drive
You Have: IDE-DVD DVDRW8801
PASS, but the Speed could NOT be analyzed.

this shows the min req for WoW which i just meett




CPU
Recommended: Pentium 4 or Athlon XP
You Have: 2 processors running - Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.20GHz
PASS
CPU Speed
Recommended: 1.5 GHz
You Have: 3.20 GHz Performance Rated at 4.80 GHz
PASS
System RAM
Recommended: 1 GB
You Have: 958 MB
PASS
Operating System
Recommended: Windows ME/2000/XP
You Have: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (Build Service Pack 32600)
PASS
Video Card
Recommended: 64MB 3D Graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting (such as an Nvidia GeForce 6600 class or better)
You Have: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series (ATI Radeon Xpress Series (0x5A61))
FAIL: Sorry, your video card does not meet this recommended requirement. Upgrading to a more powerful video card will make all your applications look better. Click the 'We Recommend' button to see some great options.
Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card

Video RAM: Required - 64 MB , You have - 64 MB
Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0
Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0

Video Card Driver Version (DirectX)
Your driver version number is: 6.14.10.6925
FYI: Your video card driver version is provided for your information, but it is not part of this analysis. But proper video card driver versions are important to the proper operation of your product.
DirectX Version
Recommended: 9.0c (included)
You Have: 9.0c
PASS
Sound Card
Recommended: Yes
You Have: Realtek AC97 Audio
PASS
Sound Card Driver Version
Your driver version number is: 5.10
FYI: Your sound card driver version is provided for your information, but it is not part of this analysis. But proper sound card driver versions are important to the proper operation of your product.
Free Disk Space
Recommended: 6 GB
You Have: 7.2 GB
PASS
CD
Recommended: 4x CD-ROM drive
You Have: IDE-DVD DVDRW8801
PASS, but the Speed could NOT be analyzed.

shows wqhat it could be with a more powerful video card either 512 or 1024mb,


but i read somewhere that the radeon has 22 pci lanes but uses 16 plus some other leaving 4 for expansion slots,
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I agree that the onboard is not good enough for the game. I wouldn't want to run on the minimum requirements for a game like WOW
the onboard is probably struggling with your screen resolution alone. From what I see as far as your MOBO you should be able to get a PCI Express video card with what I would suggest a minimum of 256 megs of memory on it.
I would strongly suggest increasing your system memory also as I advised in my previous reply. This will assure not only a new video card but the system itself will run with no problems.
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£10.99 ex. VAT
£12.64 inc. VAT*

compatible upgrade

1GB

Part #: CT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 1.8V • 128Meg x 64 • • more details

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compatible upgrade

1GB

Part #: CT12864AA1067 • DDR2 PC2-8500 • CL=7 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-1066 • 1.8V • 128Meg x 64 • • more details

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these are the mem upgrades i could use
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I would max your system out and then you won't have to worry about it again till you are ready to build a new system. :)
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previous too your last, yeah i need the memory upgrade but there is such a difference in price it a joke , hehehe i wonder which of the two mem upgrades to use and i hasvea video card in mind, but as i asked in my first post,i cannot see on the rear of the pc where it would go . oh wait is there an inner frame work it goes on , then you would need adaptors to come through the box
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There should be SLOTS on the back of the system where the card will position once connected into the right connector on the MOBO.
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hi again,mmmm that hard to decide.where the connectors exit the case now is on solid sheet, . well with the holes for usnb n other connectors,but there is/are four knockout pieces at the bottom of the case, would they go there
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