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If you are planning to over-clock, the cheapest combo would be the best: http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.211729
You might want to use the money saved to buy a good CPU cooler... the CPU is a "Black Edition" which means that the CPU multiplier is unlocked. This means that increasing the core clock to around 3.5 ghz isn't that hard. Being a Asus board, it is designed for overclocking. I would suggest this combo.

This is the RAM I would suggest with the board in the combo I suggested: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820134218
It runs in dual-channel config to increase performance.

This is some good RAM too: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820220334
It has a mail-in rebate so it is around your price range.
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If you are planning to over-clock, the cheapest combo would be the best: http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.211729
You might want to use the money saved to buy a good CPU cooler... the CPU is a "Black Edition" which means that the CPU multiplier is unlocked. This means that increasing the core clock to around 3.5 ghz isn't that hard. Being a Asus board, it is designed for overclocking. I would suggest this combo.

I realize this combo includes a "Black Edition" CPU but I am not that comfortable with overclocking yet so I was not really planning on overclocking it. And the combo had a heatsink and fan included with the CPU.

I prefer to look for combos without overclocking in mind because that's something I may not do. Especially when I see messages like this...
"Caution:
Please realize that there is a certain risk involved with overclocking, including adjusting the setting in the BIOS or using the third-party overclocking tools. Overclocking may affect your system stability, or even cause damage to the components and devices of your system. It should be done at your own risk and expense. We are not responsible for possible damage caused by overclocking."
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If I screw something up I may not be able to afford to replace it that quickly, paying $115. twice is $230., that makes paying the $129. once look really good. At some point I might try overclocking but I might not, I haven't decided yet. But if I do try it I would want to do it in better times, when I can afford replacements quickly, in case I screw something up.

What were your thoughts about the other two combos...
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.211681
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.212289?
I was on Asus' site and I see why you like the brand, I need the com port but I also need more USB ports on the outside as well. And what's the purpose for USB headers, com port headers and printer port headers inside, on the board? I don't have anything that could use any of the ports that way, are there PCI cards that can plug into those port headers to make those ports usable on the back?
Thank you.
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Edited by vroni357, 21 July 2009 - 06:29 PM.

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To damage a component like your CPU by overclocking, is really hard. You would actually have to try to damage it. But, it you are not comfortable then ignore it.

For the other 2 combos, I am not sure that the mobo will support the AM3 CPU without a BIOS flash. I am sure that the 1st combo is compatible.

This is for use with the USB headers: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815124049
You don't need a PCI port, just an expansion slot on your case.

You can use this to add some COM ports: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815317002
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For the other 2 combos, I am not sure that the mobo will support the AM3 CPU without a BIOS flash. I am sure that the 1st combo is compatible.

Newegg puts combos together that might not work without doing something extra? I've never flashed BIOS before, is that hard to do?

Actually, I'm leaning towards the http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.212289 combo. From the specs it seems like the motherboard would support the CPU. I like the faster CPU speed, the faster BUS speed and the larger Cache. But I don't know the difference between the core names, whether Kuma is better or worse than Regor, I just know there are 2 cores. The motherboard has really good reviews, even though I don't know the brand. I like the ports on the back, it has what I need except for 1 com port but I can use an adapter to plug into a USB port since there are extra. I like the FSB speed, the extra LAN speed and the video (I believe it's a SLI hybrid). For only $14. more the combo seems like a lot of bang for the buck. Would you please take a 2nd look at this one and let me know more of your thoughts? Thank you.
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Edited by vroni357, 22 July 2009 - 09:21 AM.

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The combo you lean towards was the one I would have suggested if I wasn't sure about the CPU compatibility. Newegg has a disclaimer that goes along the lines of this, "Newegg doesn't guarantee that 2 products offered in a combo deal are compatible with each other"

The Regor core is newer than the Kuma one. The AsRock combo is newer.
Here is the CPU compatibility list for the AsRock mobo: http://www.asrock.co...=K10N78M&s=AM2+
I don't see the CPU in the combo listed there. You might want to call AsRock and confirm this.
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The combo you lean towards was the one I would have suggested if I wasn't sure about the CPU compatibility.

Cool, it's a good choice then.

Here is the CPU compatibility list for the AsRock mobo: http://www.asrock.co...=K10N78M&s=AM2+
I don't see the CPU in the combo listed there. You might want to call AsRock and confirm this.

I emailed support 1st and this was their reply:

Hi,
The processor will work fine on Asrock K10N78M mainboard fine. You can go for it. Thank you for your time
Asrock Support Team


Then I called them, they said that's a newer CPU and the BIOS would need to be updated to the latest version in order for the board to recognize the CPU as the exact model that it is. Otherwise it would be recognized as a different CPU model. I've never flashed BIOS before but they said it was easy to do and that there were instructions on their website. I read the instructions for Windows and it looked easy, download, install, reboot, load in Set Up utility, reboot and check to make sure. But my question is whether it's a bad thing or not that I need to flash the BIOS at all even though it's because the CPU is so new? Thank you.
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Edited by vroni357, 22 July 2009 - 08:28 PM.

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Keep it like this:
Don't flash your BIOS if it is working fine. If a flash is required for some additional capabilities, then flash to a stable version. In your case it is not a bad thing.

Looks like you can buy that combo then... tell me how it goes.
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Don't flash your BIOS if it is working fine.

Yeah, that's what the AsRock people said too.

Looks like you can buy that combo then

Ok, this is what I'm getting...
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.212289
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820220334
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812119246
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812197006
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822998001.
It sure adds up fast, I knew it would.

tell me how it goes.

Ok, I will.
Thank you so much.
:)
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It all looks very good... looks like you are going to reuse your IDE drive (good choice).

Just wondering... what do you need the COM port for?
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looks like you are going to reuse your IDE drive (good choice).

Yeah but I really don't have a choice because I can't afford all this new stuff and new drives too. But also there's no reason for new drives since my current drives all work, except one I'm not sure about, the hard drives are large enough for me. And the optical drives are using the latest tech (unless the new drives can do more than re-write now) and one of them I just started using a month ago. The drives only problem is they are all IDE, except one, but none of the new boards come with 2 IDE connectors the way they used to. Do the newer BIOS see the SATA drives just as they would see IDE drives?

What do you think about this... http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820161183? It costs less on the front end and after the rebate.

Just wondering... what do you need the COM port for?

I have an older PDA that uses a COM port. Hopefully it will be just as happy using a USB port. Do you know where I can get any Newegg coupon codes? Thank you.
:)

Edited by vroni357, 24 July 2009 - 07:22 AM.

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I had the same problem. Computer took forever to reinstall windows. I swapped out EVERY component in my system. Even the Processor. I also kept getting the INF install failure.....thing. What got mine going was clearing the CMOS and removing the Battery.
After 2 days my PC is a busy bee again. Here's the link that saved me.
http://en.community....t/19259115.aspx

Go down to second post and click on the HERE link
Good Luck
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That RAM should work fine with the AsRock mobo.

Do you know where I can get any Newegg coupon codes?
I have no idea... maybe you can check on the internet for some codes... or look at some Newegg advertisements.

Do the newer BIOS see the SATA drives just as they would see IDE drives?

The BIOS would see the SATA drives just as the IDE ones.

You can also try clearing the CMOS... disconnect all power cables and all components from your computer. Then open up your computer's case. Put one hand on a non-painted metal surface of your case, and use the other hand to remove the CMOS battery. Wait for 50-60 minutes and then put the battery back in your mobo. Power on your computer, and reset your BIOS to factory defaults.
Or if you have a Dell, look here: http://en.community....0.aspx#18794690
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I had the same problem. Computer took forever to reinstall windows. I swapped out EVERY component in my system. Even the Processor. I also kept getting the INF install failure.....thing. What got mine going was clearing the CMOS and removing the Battery.

Thank you Niltomega.

You can also try clearing the CMOS... disconnect all power cables and all components from your computer. Then open up your computer's case. Put one hand on a non-painted metal surface of your case, and use the other hand to remove the CMOS battery. Wait for 50-60 minutes and then put the battery back in your mobo. Power on your computer, and reset your BIOS to factory defaults.

And thank you edge2022

Unfortunately that didn't work for my system, I got the same BSOD. So I'll continue on to getting the new stuff. Thank you.
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That might have worked... looks like the problem is with the mobo again.

When you build your computer, remember to ground yourself when putting it together or else you could permanently damage components like your CPU.
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When you build your computer, remember to ground yourself when putting it together or else you could permanently damage components like your CPU.

Yeah, I actually have a wrist strap but I usually don't use it just because it's easier to ground myself on the bare metal frame of my case. But I'm pretty careful, I haven't fried anything yet and hopefully I never will. Thank you.
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Edited by vroni357, 25 July 2009 - 05:22 PM.

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