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My first build, mainly for gaming


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Hey everyone,
so I put together a list of a proposed computer that I want to build.
mobo http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813130223
crossfire video cards http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102824
cpu http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103471
hdd http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148433
case http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811146027
either:
monitor A http://www.newegg.co...N82E16824009145
or monitor B http://www.newegg.co...N82E16824236050
optical drive http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151173

However, I was told by multiple people that ddr3 is a waste right now, so I'm thinking of trashing that mobo and cpu. Can anyone suggest another cpu/mobo? I'd prefer to still have crossfire.

Also, what about a power supply? I have no idea how many watts/whatever I need for my computer. Also, which monitor would be better?
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PSU is fairly easy. Always shoot high so you can support upgrades in the future. I would get anything between a 750w and 1000w. Then there are two main different types of psus. Ones that let you use only the cables you need, and those that already have all sorts of different power connections coming out of it (which is more of a mess to work with). Also make sure it is the correct size to fit into your case.

I would get monitor A.
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will all of these parts even work together?
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Generally when picking parts you do them in this order (usually), with each being compatible with the previous. Newegg is great about giving you detailed specifications. And it is good practice to understand hardware compatibility, so I will give you some help.

1. CPU
2. Motherboard (that supports your CPUs socket/fsb speed)
3. GPU (make sure your motherboard supports the connection type (pci/pci-e/agp)
4. RAM (try to match your RAMs fsb to your Mobo/CPUs fsb, also make sure its the right pin and amount of ram slots on your motherboard.
5. HD (Any should work)
6. PSU (Match to case size, 500w minimum, though I would go for 750w+)
7. Case (Match it to your motherboards size (ATX full/mid/small tower)
8. Monitor (make sure it has connections that your video card supports (dvi/vga/hdmi)

Note on FSB: Try to make sure no parts have a faster fsb than your motherboard supports.
*Edit - I am not familiar with AMD processors, but your selected motherboard supports an AM3 socket, while the CPU you selected is a AM2+ socket.

So with this info, go through your selected parts again and see if you think they support each other.

Edited by Trippster, 03 June 2009 - 07:20 AM.

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hey trippster, thanks a lot man.

that was the wrong CPU : / I meant to link this one: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103674

can you recommend a good computer case and pus? I'd prefer to have one that lights up :) those are always cool.

also do you have msn? it might be easier to talk on there.
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I think Cooler Master makes great cases. I use to have one (Apevia) that lit up and it was cool for a bit, but after a couple weeks I ******* hated it. Some cases let you control whether the lights are on or not, and some dont. If the computer is going to be in your bedroom, avoid lights at all costs lol. I eventually appreciated cases that were very roomy and insulated (quiet) instead of being visually appealing. Nothing is more irritating than hearing fans and churning hard drives all day.

For the PSU again, there is no top-dog brand. I have a 750w corsair which works great.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139006
I upgraded my case last summer to this, its big, its heavy(50-70lbs when everything is in it), but it keeps my PC very quiet, and has plenty of space for upgrades and to help cool the pc
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119138

One more note - plan out what OS and version you plan to run before selecting your parts. There is no point in getting a super processor and lots of RAM if your only going for a 32bit OS.

Unforunately I do not have msn, and I am not on my home PC. I will be on the forum throughout the day though.

Edited by Trippster, 03 June 2009 - 09:17 AM.

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I'm gonna be using Windows Vista 64 bit most likely. I was going to do windows 7, but I realized that I'll have to re-install it later on, and that seemed just like too much of a hassle.

and for the case, i'm generally not a fan of silver/white ones. I like black cases better : / . And I won't get LED lights, because it will be in my room (good suggestion). Also, a really quiet PC would be nice. So I guess one that stays cool, and is also quiet. Preferably mostly black, but can have a little bit of another color.

and what about that cpu i linked? yes no?

also, newegg has a deal for that power supply and a case: http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.198939 But i heard that case isn't so good?
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Everything so far checks out.

My suggestions -

1. Depending on your budget, I would get a newer model graphics card.
2. Find some 240pin DDR3 memory. With 64bit vista, I would go for 6-8GB. (Corsair makes great memory)
3. With crossfire, your case is going to be quite cluttered, these video cards may take up some hard drive slots, not to mention working inside your case will be extremely difficult. If you dont care about your case size or plan to never move it, go for a full tower instead of a mid-tower. It will look like a nuke sitting next to your desk or bed, but it will be better for cooling, working space, and insulation.
4. Optical drive is ok, if budget permits again, I would go for a second optical drive since they are so cheap. You never know when one will fail or start acting up.

Edited by Trippster, 04 June 2009 - 10:00 AM.

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Everything so far checks out.

My suggestions -

1. Depending on your budget, I would get a newer model graphics card.
2. Find some 240pin DDR3 memory. With 64bit vista, I would go for 6-8GB. (Corsair makes great memory)
3. With crossfire, your case is going to be quite cluttered, these video cards may take up some hard drive slots, not to mention working inside your case will be extremely difficult. If you dont care about your case size or plan to never move it, go for a full tower instead of a mid-tower. It will look like a nuke sitting next to your desk or bed, but it will be better for cooling, working space, and insulation.
4. Optical drive is ok, if budget permits again, I would go for a second optical drive since they are so cheap. You never know when one will fail or start acting up.


hey man thanks for these. I don't want a cluttered case, so if I'm not getting crossfire now, what video card would you suggest? I wanna be able to play wc3, and eventually sc2 when it comes out. Also, I just want a case that is quiet, I don't care about size. And my budget is very flexible, so any suggestions I can probably fit in.
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Im not saying you can't get crossfire. Personally, I would prefer 1 solid graphics card than a Crossfire or SLi setup simply for the ease of configuration and compatibility. But if you want crossfire then get it. All I was suggesting was you get a newer model graphics card that supports crossfire then buy two of them.
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alright man, thats cool. Can you suggest any to me?
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Yea I got one hour left at work then I can do some skimming through newegg.
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haha cool man thanks! I wanna get this thing started asap, can't wait to build it.
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In the meantime, you should go find some memory. I also highly suggest getting a pci wireless card. Having a backup connection is extremely underrated.

Also, with a large case, I would suggest getting 2x 500GB hard drives, or a 250GB and 750GB (Instead of a single 1TB). Install the OS on the smaller one, and put all your games and media on the other. This way if one hard drive fails you got a backup. Or if you ever need to reformat you can do so without losing all your stuff.

Edited by Trippster, 04 June 2009 - 01:55 PM.

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for memory, I found this: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820145221
the reviews seemed good on it

also i've been looking and i'm not sure what to look for in the wireless card section, think you can help me with that? I will be running an ethernet cable to the computer, but I guess wireless can't hurt as well.
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