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i just bought a laptop that came with vista... i'm trying to share my old files from my xp computer onto it, but i can't seem to connect them as easily as xp to xp.

is there an easy way to file share between the 2 systems? i'm completely a noob to vista, so if you could include instructions when you say things like "make a network," it would be much appreciated =]

thanks in advance!
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Hey Rik,

Networking between XP and Vista isn't usually too difficult, however there are a few hurdles that can get in the way. Before we begin, I'd like to get an overview of what's going on in your network (in terms of settings) so that we can see what needs to be changed.

On the Windows XP machine, do the following:

Step 1 - File Sharing Troubleshooting (Windows XP):
  • Press Start
  • Select Run
  • Type cmd and press OK
  • In the new command prompt window, please type the following commands (*Note: the single '>' and double '>>' are intentional; please type the commands exactly as they appear):
    • ipconfig /all > C:\results.txt
    • net view >> C:\results.txt
    • net share >> C:\results.txt
    • nbtstat -n >> C:\results.txt
  • Once the above commands have completed, navigate to your C: drive and open the text file results.txt -- please copy/paste the contents of this file into your next response.
On the Windows Vista machine, do the following:

Step 2 - File Sharing Troubleshooting (Windows Vista):
  • Select Start
  • In the Start Search field type cmd -- right-click on the cmd program and choose Run as administrator
  • In the new command prompt window, please type the following commands (*Note: the single '>' and double '>>' are intentional; please type the commands exactly as they appear):
    • ipconfig /all > C:\results.txt
    • net view >> C:\results.txt
    • net share >> C:\results.txt
    • nbtstat -n >> C:\results.txt
  • Once the above commands have completed, navigate to your C: drive and open the text file results.txt -- please copy/paste the contents of this file into your next response.
Please post the results, indicating which log relates to which machine (XP or Vista).

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hey dan! thank you for helping me out :]

here's the vista machine's report. i'll run upstairs and do the xp one and post another reply.


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Rik
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : frontiernet.net

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : frontiernet.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® WiFi Link 5100 AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-FA-91-8C-94
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::78f1:5241:2fd0:2266%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.108(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:01:55 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:01:53 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.133.150.12
66.133.170.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:3436:1108:b5dd:e081(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3436:1108:b5dd:e081%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\RIK
The command completed successfully.


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C$ C:\ Default share
D$ D:\ Default share
IPC$ Remote IPC
ADMIN$ C:\Windows Remote Admin
Public C:\Users\Public
Users C:\Users
The command completed successfully.


Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.108] Scope Id: []



NetBIOS Local Name Table



Name Type Status

---------------------------------------------

RIK <00> UNIQUE Registered

MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered

MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered

RIK <20> UNIQUE Registered

MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered

..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered



be just a sec with that xp report.
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XP REPORT =]



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RIK

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain.invalid



Ethernet adapter Hamachi:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Hamachi Network Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 7A-79-05-26-A4-64

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 5.38.164.100

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 5.0.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:16:13 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:16:13 PM



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domain.invalid

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter with SpeedBooster

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-66-E7-1A-3A

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:01:47 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:01:47 PM

Server Name Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\FAMILY M.O.M.
\\RIK Rik's
The command completed successfully.


Share name Resource Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IPC$ Remote IPC
Age of Mythology
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Age of Mythology

SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DOCUMENTS

The command completed successfully.


Hamachi:
Node IpAddress: [5.38.164.100] Scope Id: []



NetBIOS Local Name Table



Name Type Status

---------------------------------------------

RIK <00> UNIQUE Registered

MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered

RIK <20> UNIQUE Registered

MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered

MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered

..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered


Wireless Network Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.100] Scope Id: []



NetBIOS Local Name Table



Name Type Status

---------------------------------------------

RIK <00> UNIQUE Registered

MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered

RIK <20> UNIQUE Registered

MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered

MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered

..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered
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Thanks Rik, that's perfect :)

On the VISTA machine, do the following:
  • Press Start
  • In the Start Search field type network and select Network and Sharing Center
  • In the new window, under the Sharing and Discovery section, can you please set the following status for each:
  • Network Discovery -- ON
  • File sharing -- ON
  • Public folder sharing -- ON
  • Printer sharing -- ON (if you want to actually share a printer, that is)
  • Password protected sharing -- OFF
From what I can see, it doesn't look like you have any files/folders shared on your Vista machine as of yet. Please go to a folder that you would like to share, right-click on it and select Properties -- select the Sharing tab and then press the Advanced Sharing button. Check (tick) Share this folder and then select Apply.

Now, let's see what sort of connectivity the Vista machine has with the XP; do the following. Select Start, in the Start Search field type Run and then press the enter key on your keyboard. In the run box, type \\RIK and then press OK -- what happens (make sure you include the "\\"'s)? Now, try typing \\192.168.1.100 and press OK -- what happens? Please post any error messages that may appear.

Thanks,
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alrighty... i did that and i get no error messages.

when i type \\rik, i get the public folder, a user folder, the sharing folder you instructed me to create, and 'printers' idk what that one is.

for the \\192.168.1.100, i get 4 printers labeled 'printer' 'printers' 'printer3' 'printer4' and a folder called 'SharedDocs'.

i also feel it relevant to include that when i went upstairs to post the report from my xp computer, i had a '!' in the taskbar indicating that there was an ip conflict with another computer on the network.

are we closer? haha :]
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Do you have any software firewalls installed? If so, try temporarily disabling them and see if you can share.

On the XP machine, try sharing an easy-to-reach file (i.e. make a folder at C:\Test and then share it, for testing purposes), then try this:
  • Press Start
  • Select Run
  • Type cmd and press OK
  • Please type the following commands (the single '>' and double '>>' are intentional; please type the commands exactly as they appear):
  • In the new command prompt window, type net view \\RIK > C:\results.txt
  • Once the above command completes, type net view \\192.168.1.108 >> C:\results.txt
  • Once the above command completes, type ping RIK >> C:\results.txt
  • Once the above command completes, type ping 192.168.1.108 >> C:\results.txt
    *NOTE: the ping commands will take about 10 seconds to complete.
  • Navigate to your C: drive and open the text file results.txt -- please copy/paste the contents of this file into your next response.

i had a '!' in the taskbar indicating that there was an ip conflict with another computer on the network.

Not sure why this popped up, the only issue I could see was that the names of the two machines are a little too close for my liking (RIK and Rik).
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not sure what you had me make the test folder for...? didn't see any additional instructions in the post, but i trust ya :]

here's the report... but as i understand it... pinging RIK means i'm pinging my xp computer from the xp computer... i think i'll change the name of my xp computer?

it's name is now scythe --> (done AFTER the tests)

Shared resources at \\RIK

Rik's

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Age of Mythology Disk
SharedDocs Disk
Test Disk
The command completed successfully.



Pinging RIK [192.168.1.104] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.1.104: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms



Pinging 192.168.1.108 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.108:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
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Good thinking with the name change; it looks like the XP machine isn't really communicating with the Vista -- do you have a firewall installed on the Vista machine?

Can you try those tests from the Vista machine, but replace "RIK" with "scythe" (spelling?) and the IP address with 192.168.1.104.

Could you also repeat those tests on the XP machine now that you have the name change in place. It should make things easier to read now that they don't have the same name.
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i disabled the firewall on xp before we started and just disabled the vista one. (both are the standard windows firewall)

i'll have to do a couple reports again. this one is for Rik (vista)

Ping request could not find host scythe. Please check the name and try again.



Pinging 192.168.1.104 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.108: Destination host unreachable.

Reply from 192.168.1.108: Destination host unreachable.

Reply from 192.168.1.108: Destination host unreachable.

Reply from 192.168.1.108: Destination host unreachable.



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.104:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

1 sec for the xp post
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xp report-

Ping request could not find host RIK. Please check the name and try again.



Pinging 192.168.1.108 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 192.168.1.108:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
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So, it looks like your two machines aren't even communicating correctly. We're going to have to look at the basics again; what type of network do you have setup? Do you use a router? How is the XP machine configured? I noticed that it has a wired and wireless connection active at the moment -- why do you have that?

We'll get there eventually :)
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in our house, we have 4 computers set up. one is hard wired to the router (yes we use a router). the rest are wireless. 2 are laptops. the final one is my xp desktop (also wireless). i'm not entirely sure how the xp computer is configured, but i've transferred files from it before. it could be one of three things that is coming up as the wired connection. i typically leave the ethernet enabled, i have another connection that i'm not sure what it's for that has to be enabled on all the computers in the house, or nobody gets internet, and i use hamachi (which is left enabled).
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Sounds.. complicated :) You really shouldn't need that many connections, but I'm hesitant to fiddle as you may end up losing all connections to your network; we'll leave that option alone for now. At the moment, the Vista machine believes it can't route traffic to your XP machine, hence why you get that response. The first thing I'd suggest is disabling IPv6 --

Step 1 - Disable IPv6:
  • Select Start
  • In the Start Search field type ncpa.cpl and press the Enter key on your keyboard.
  • In the new window, right-click on your Wireless Network Connection and select Properties.
  • In the This connection uses the following items section, remove the tick beside (i.e. disable) Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6) and then press OK.
Restart the Vista machine and then try the pings back and forth again. What happens?

Try disabling your Ethernet connections (on the XP machine) and simply leave the wireless active; try the pings again, can they go through? If not, simply re-enable the Ethernet connections.
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no change... any other ideas? :]
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