My apologies for being away for so long, it's been a really hellish week...
i get the message when I try to rename the system file. I simply carried on regardless...
OK. So, taken in context with your other info (you don't get the chance to type in logon) it's just syntax that DOS is objecting to. You don't always need to logon, for instance one of my desktops remembers when I've logged in to Windows and the next time I run DOS I don't need to for some reason.
It also automatically takes me to the C:\Windows folder when I boot into DOS. So, you may not need to type "cd windows" at all. Just try "cd \" in place of that command instead. That will make sure you're in the correct folder and you should be able to continue from there without trouble.
You carried on regardless? How far did you get? If you like, type the exact command lines like I did and insert the responses you get from the computer where you get something unexpected.
im sorry, I am able to use a few programs etc but this stuff is like a different language to me
I totally understand. I used to use DOS all the time when I was younger, but eventually abandoned it for GUIs, as many did. When I started using it again a few years ago, it was like a shock and kind of scary. I had to relearn stuff I never thought I'd forgotten. It can be really intimidating and still shocks me for a minute or two each time I use it.
It's a simple and very exact way to get things done, though. I forgot how effective it can be when GUIs fail. It's worth learning about if you ever have the extra time. Here's
a good site to bookmark if you're ever interested.
I also do not get the opportunity to type logon, it appears that it is already there I just simply type 1 enter to move to the next line, is this relevant?
The command chain goes like this:
You press "r" to enter recovery console,
The DOS console loads and you see "C:>"
followed by a blinking cursor.
You type Logon
and press Enter,
The computer asks you "Which installation of Windows would you like to Log on to?"
You type "1"
and press enter
The computer asks for the "Administrative Password"
You don't type anything (most installations are made without one) and press "Enter"
You get a line that says "C:>" or "C:\windows>"
with a blinking cursor after it.
Honestly, sometimes you don't need to logon. As I said above, one of my computers will remember that I logged on the next time I boot to DOS and I don't need to do so again.
But, if you try to type a command directly after you get into Recovery Console (any command, but for argument lets say "cd windows") and it tells you "Cannot find specified file or directory" or something similar, then you're not logged onto the system and you need to logon.
Logon simply allows you into the operating system on the disk. Some hard drives have more than one operating system on them (some have a recovery partition, some have more than one bootable operating systems), you you have to specify which one, regardless of whether or not you have more than one operating system on the disk. The one that boots automatically or first is "1", so you type that.
Typing "1" before "logon" will do nothing. The computer may not even give you a response. The command is nonsense if you don't tell the system you want to "logon" to something first.
Another thing you can try is "logoff" (Enter) and then type "logon" (Enter) and see if it prompts you for which installation you want to log on to.
Once you're logged on, you should automatically be in C:\Windows. Even if it says C:> it is still probably C:\Windows. You only really have access to the Root Folder of the system in dos. The command "cd windows" is usually redundant for starting out in Recovery Console, but can usually be worth it just to be sure where you are. You can also type "cd \", which amounts to much the same thing. It means "Go up a folder", so if you type that when you're in say "C:\Windows\System32\Cache>", you'll find yourself in "C:\Windows\System32>".
It's like pressing the "Back" button on your Explorer window when you're browsing your C: drive.
The direct command "cd Windows" says "go directly to the Wondows Folder from wherever I am now". So, using the above example, if you're in "C:\Windows\System32\Cache>" and you type "cd Windows", you get taken straight to "C:\Windows>". Similar to if you click on the directory address in your browser window and back space the paths of your folders back to the windows folder - you're just taken right there.
It's basically browsing your directory tree without the pictures to show you everything. You're blind to what's in a folder until you type "dir", which shows you all the files and folders in whatever folder you happen to be in. Then you can see what's there and choose where you want to go next.
LOL, lots of info, sorry. But really, DOS is pretty easy once you get the hang of what you're doing and what the commands do.
Try my suggestions above for your syntax error. Let me know what happens. If you have problems, try typing out your command chain and then the error you get as a response to be exact.