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Have you run MAXTOR diagnostic utility ?

Hi, I did not see anything at http://www.seagate.c...nloads/seatools for Mac OS X.

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you dont need a clean room all you need is a plexiglass box with an air filter they are just as good but less expensive to set up.

Can you tell me where to find a "how to" for the plexiglass box and air filter?

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I do not recall, anywhere in this thread, saying I understand how hard drives are made. If that were so I would not have asked the very SPECIFIC questions that I did when I began this thread. Indeed, if I understood how hard drives are made, prior to starting this thread, I, probably, would not have started this thread.

I was making an observation - not criticism. Again, I think you are being a over-sensitive, spending a lot of time on stuff irrelevant to the technical issues here. If someone ridicules, give them all the attention they deserve - none! Let it go.
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As for no Mac version, you may have go to DOS, or use a PC to recover the data.

http://www.airfiltro...egory_Code=TTCR
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I do not recall, anywhere in this thread, saying I understand how hard drives are made. If that were so I would not have asked the very SPECIFIC questions that I did when I began this thread. Indeed, if I understood how hard drives are made, prior to starting this thread, I, probably, would not have started this thread.

I was making an observation - not criticism.

My intention was to communicate that your "observation" was inconsistent with the facts of my post(s) in this thread, not to identify criticism. In other words, I was telling you I knew I did not understand how hard drives were made when I started this thread.

As for no Mac version, you may have go to DOS, or use a PC to recover the data. http://www.airfiltro...egory_Code=TTCR

I have a PC running XP nearby. I am still somewhat focused on trying to get the data off the drive(s) via Mac software and hardware. I have considered the PC, however, I did not feel I had fully explored the possible Mac recovery methods yet. I am also very concerned about http://seagate.custk...f...&NewLang=en , because I have reason to believe my 3200 may be one of the affected drives. Unfortunately, I also seem content(happy) to let my PCs that run Windows OS sit unused, indefinitely.

Incidentally, I have done a little looking for hard drive recovery hardware. One source I found also offered software which did not appear to be available for Mac OS X. So, just as with other hardware, accessories, and software, I realize Mac OS X may not be supported by much of it.


Edited by 72707, 28 April 2010 - 01:16 PM.

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072707What high horse did you climb on?
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I should check that. Wow, I might have the one your mo******************** likes to ride. I am not entirely certain, though.


Hey Donavanichi, I think this is the email. Email me back after you get it.

Edited by 72707, 28 April 2010 - 12:55 PM.

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Hi, you haven't said that your hard drive is " dead " so i will pressume that it still runs. I would use your PC, as suggested by
DIGERATI, to recover your files. This is a good program & has a ...deep scan...option, about 90Gb an hour.

http://www.piriform....recuva/download

The recovered files will not be recognised by Windows, odd icons etc. but files are files. I would then transfer the files to the
Mac hard drive.

I hope that try this after all the pushing & shoving
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He said in his opening post he tried a couple programs, with no luck. I like Recuva too - and the creators of CCleaner have a good reputation for not making things worse (as is often the case with some cleaners) so I think that spreads over to their other products - at least until proven that trust is not deserved. So far so good. That said, most of these type programs work in similar fashions so I would not get my hopes up.

I guess to toss salt in the wounds, it is not too late to prepare for the next HD failure, and would urge everyone to review (Use? Create?) their backup and recovery procedures.
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Hi, you haven't said that your hard drive is " dead " so i will pressume that it still runs. I would use your PC, as suggested by
DIGERATI, to recover your files. This is a good program & has a ...deep scan...option, about 90Gb an hour.

http://www.piriform....recuva/download

The recovered files will not be recognised by Windows, odd icons etc. but files are files. I would then transfer the files to the
Mac hard drive.

I hope that try this after all the pushing & shoving

I am still somewhat focused on trying to get the data off the drive(s) via Mac software and hardware, but, at least http://www.siteadvis...es/piriform.com and http://www.google.co...te=piriform.com do not seem to have found problems with the software makers website. That is something I consider.

I hope I can find legitimate user reviews for the software.

What is the cost of the software?

Have you used this software to successfully recover lots of data from a USB hard drive?

Does it run on XP SP2?

Does it require administrator rights to be installed?

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double post please delete or disregard

Edited by mikeloeven, 28 April 2010 - 04:31 PM.

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In case you haven`t noticed this is an open forum.

Your, in my opinion, disparaging and quite unnecessary comments, as I previously alluded to, AND, as outlined, probably in detail, in geekstogo.com forum "Terms Of Use" are the issue. Are you attempting to justify your, in my opinion, abuse by saying this is an open forum so you can harass and abuse anyone you like. Try reading http://www.geekstogo...81#entry1817281 and, then, try section 4 of the 'Terms Of Use" and continue reading from there.

No ridicule involved...

I could say I have had a few hundred patients who denied the truth. At least; however, they were in a setting intended to treat their problem.

Denying the truth does not change the truth. Hypothetically speaking, you can say you are not Mike, but, instead, Johnny Knoxville, for the next 25.358 years. Nevertheless, you will not be Johnny Knoxville at the end of that time period. Maybe you will, however, manage to convince some that your behavior is consistent with what the public has come to expect from Johnny Knoxville.

...No ridicule involved in my reply(sounds like thin skin to me)...

Your statement makes no sense. Surrounding a word, or phrase, with parenthesis while adjacent to another word, let us call it x, is, by more than just convention, intended to give further definition to the word x. In fact, the word or phrase in parenthesis should, in the strictest usage of this structure, be interchangeable with word x. Thus, you appear to be saying "No ridicule involved in my sounds like thin skin to me". That makes no sense.

...just trying to shake a little sense into someone...

I can say that it is not difficult for me to identify the classic replies used by abusers and bullies of all kinds. Once they realize they are recognized for what they are they, sometimes, try to convince their victim(s) that they are helping them. I do not recall asking, in this thread, ANYONE to "shake a little" ANYTHING. Further, I would expect the predominate number of this forum's users would appreciate an answer to their question, or no response at all, as well, as opposed to some other forum user deciding to "shake" something into them. Try reading http://www.geekstogo...81#entry1816881 and http://www.geekstogo...31#entry1817031 and http://www.geekstogo...81#entry1817281 if you are confused.

...invo on their hard drive in the worst way...

Again, you are not making sense. What is "invo"? I did not say anything in this thread about a "worst way". You are not making sense.

...listening to the voices of reason...

Again, you are not making sense? Is "voices of reason" a musical group, or something. Is that like "voices of U2" or "voices of Genesis" or, maybe, "voices in your head"? When I was typing my previous responses in this thread I was not listening to any music, but what would that have to do with this thread anyway?

...do as you wish...

Ultimately, why would I do otherwise?

...do as you wish, it`s your info.

Of course it is my information. Has it taken you all this time to realize, or acknowledge, that simple FACT?

...No one is ridiculing anyone, and whenever anybody tries to "look cool" - it's pretty obvious to everyone...

Of course they are. I would not, however, expect those in their "in crowd", or their "buddies", to acknowledge that fact anymore than I would expect Hit***'s cohorts to acknowledge their own bad behavior.

This statement suggests a misunderstanding of how different sized hard drives are made, or the difference between internal and external drives.

I do not recall, anywhere in this thread, saying I understand how hard drives are made. If that were so I would not have asked the very SPECIFIC questions that I did when I began this thread. Indeed, if I understood how hard drives are made, prior to starting this thread, I, probably, would not have started this thread.

As I have done many times in the past, I ask specific questions regarding a task or situation I am faced with of others I believe may be knowledgeable with regard to the subject matter. I then make MY OWN DECISION as to how to proceed. I have, like others of my "caliber", used this process numerous times. Once I have gathered significant information regarding what is involved with a task I have seldom failed when I have chosen to take a specific course of action. Further, where my course of action has not resulted in success I do not spend my time being further troubled by the matter.

...ridiculing... ...tries to "look cool"

I would not have asked the questions I did in this thread of just one source(forum) anymore than I would risk putting all my liquid assets in a single bank. I have asked, virtually, the same question elsewhere and, ESPECIALLY with regard to one particular user who has posted in this thread, I have not quite encountered the irreverent, abusive, dismissive, remarks I have encountered on the geekstogo.com forum.




i think it is time to start running all these quotes are about to reach critical mass.

but seriously unless you have something insanely illegal like kiddy porn or the complete financial records for the mexican Mafia's drug cartel ontrak isn't going to care if you have several gigs of pirated music or whatever else you have on there they just take the files off and give them to you. and if you have really sensitive information you dont want them to see might i recomend either PGP or blowfish advance CS. PGP is one of the strongest encryptions you can by but blowfish advance is free and open source. if you do that they can recover the files but wont be able to read them unless they have you password or key disk

Edited by mikeloeven, 28 April 2010 - 03:11 PM.

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Hi, You didn't explain what you meant by " failing ".

...it is not too late to prepare for the next HD failure, and would urge everyone to review (Use? Create?) their backup and recovery procedures.

Speaking for myself, I thought I was prepared. I have not explained, in its entirety, what happened to me. And, after repeating this explanation so many times in other places(forums, etc.), I am not enthusiastic about repeating it again. I will repeat it anyway,though.

I have 2 external USB hard drives, a MyBook 250 GB and a Maxtor 500 GB, connected to my MacBook. The drives are of different age, size, and brand. The drives are primarily used for backups; HOWEVER, I have some unique information on each drive. I have the MyBook's unique information backed up onto the Maxtor and vice versa. Both drives unmounted from my MacBook within a few minutes, and a restart maybe, of each other and have, since, not remounted. I never imagined that BOTH drives would fail at, virtually, the exact same time. Sure, I have, at least, a few theories as to what may have occurred, but those theories have not aided in getting the data off the drives. So, I thought I was as prepared as I could be for hard drive failure.

Incidentally, the two aforementioned drives have, on a Mac GUID, 3 partitions. The MyBook has 2 Mac partitions and 1 Fat 32 partition. The Maxtor has 1 Mac partition, 1 Fat 32 partition, and 1 NTFS partition. The NTFS partition on the Maxtor is, mostly, empty. The odd thing, and I am sure it would be an important clue for anyone with expert knowledge of hard drives and drive partitions, is that the NTFS partition on the Maxtor drive will still mount, a good percentage of the time, and I can access its files when it successfully mounts. Rarely, the Maxtor's Mac partition has mounted, but only displayed the "top level" folders and not their contents. I had reason to suspect that the longer the Maxtor was left on the more of it would, eventually, display(mount), but I grew apprehensive of leaving it on due to sounds it seemed to be making.

I have a third drive, a Western Digital 120 GB, connected to the MacBook as well. This drive was formatted Fat 32 on one of my Windows machines and, mostly, contains a lot of important data I rarely access anymore. Incidentally, this drive was backed up onto one of the aforementioned other two drives as well. Usually, I do not have the Western Digital 120 GB on; however, I believe the 120 GB drive was on when the other 2 drives unmounted(failed). However, the Western Digital 120 GB does not seem to have any problems at all. It is switched off now, but, last I checked, after the two drive failures it showed no symptoms of any problems. I have not done it yet, but I feel it is important to, once again, backup the 120 GB Western Digital drive.

note: I realize Western Digital(WD) now makes the MyBook line of drives. The MyBook 250 GB drive is the one I dislike most and expected to fail. I also realize that, regardless of brand, the manufacturer of the drive mechanism itself is sometimes the same.

Edited by 72707, 28 April 2010 - 05:15 PM.

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I am still somewhat focused on trying to get the data off the drive(s) via Mac software and hardware, but, at least http://www.siteadvis...es/piriform.com and http://www.google.co...te=piriform.com do not seem to have found problems with the software makers website. That is something I consider.

I hope I can find legitimate user reviews for the software.

What is the cost of the software?

Have you used this software to successfully recover lots of data from a USB hard drive?

Does it run on XP SP2?

Does it require administrator rights to be installed?

The software is FREE. We at Geeks to Go recommend it quite frequently to attempt recovery on all types of files and the OP's have reported back to us that it works very well.

* Simple to use interface - just click 'Scan' and choose the files you want to recover
* Easy to use filter for results based on file name/type
* Simple Windows like interface with List and Tree view
* Can be run from a USB thumb drive
* Restores all types of files, office documents, images, video, music, email, anything.
* Supports FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, exFAT, NTFS, NTFS5 , NTFS + EFS file systems
* Restores files from removable media (SmartMedia, Secure Digital, MemoryStick, Digital cameras, Floppy disks, Jaz Disks, Sony Memory Sticks, Compact Flash cards, Smart Media Cards, Secure Digital Cards, etc.)
* Restores files from external ZIP drives , Firewire and USB Hard drives
* It's fast, tiny and takes seconds to run!

System Requirements

Runs on Microsoft Windows 7, Vista, XP and 2000. Including both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.


Since its free, why not try it.
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Hi, you could read this post..

http://www.geekstogo...xt-t274378.html

COFUSEDOLDLADY has a MAXTOR with witch she had trouble & finally had to recover her files. She used RECUVA & had a great result.
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