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need to know if this computer is worth upgrading or start from scratch


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ruthlez.rampage

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ok, I guess my question would be should I bother overclocking, upgrading this computer or start from scratch and build my own computer. I do lots of downloading,burning,converting,surfing the internet, and installing programs sometimes all at the same time. Here are my specs, if you have any questions feel free to write, I will be responding to this thread.

CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2400 MHz (12 x 200) 4000+
Motherboard Name FIC KTBC51G (2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA GeForce 6100, AMD Hammer
System Memory 1504 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DIMM1: Hynix HYMD564 646CP8JD43 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM2: Hynix HYMD564 646CP8JD43 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM3: Infineon 64D32300GU6B 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM4: Infineon 64D32300GU6B 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz)
BIOS Type Award (05/15/06)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)


is this computer sufficient for my needs if i just upgrade some parts and overclocked? i would up grade to amd x2, and 2gb of memory,with a 1tb sata drive.

Edited by ruthlez.rampage, 04 May 2010 - 02:23 AM.

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The FIC KTBC51G is a Socket 939 motherboard.

If you do much transcoding or playback of HD video your machine probably feels quite slow. There's not much you can do about it, other than building a new rig. I suppose a new hard drive could help as well.
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A slow computer for one can be a fast one for someone else.

If it serves your need and your happy with it then why change, if it does not meet your needs anymore then upgrade it or change it altogether.

One thing, your ram are mixed (pc3200 and pc2700) this will reduce the speed of your 3200 to the 2700 level and you will not able to use the full potential of dual channel.

Also you do not specify it in your description if you have one but a non integrated Video Card (pci-express) would help you a lot, integrated video are not as good and do use memory from your system so leaving less for your other programs running.
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Processor: Supports Sempron/Athlon/Athlon64/Athlon64FX / Athlon 64 X2 processors (Socket 939) / Supports HyperTransport

Chipset: North: NVIDIA C51G / South: nVidia MCP51/G

Memory: 4 184-pin DDR DIMMs / Support DDR 333/400 Dual Channel SDRAM / Supports a maximum memory size 4GB

Video: On board Controller Embedded in nVidia C51G / Add on interface 1x PCIe by 16

Audio: Controller nVidia MCP51G / Codec ALC 880 v.H HD Audio(Azalia) 7.1 Channels

Onboard Lan: Controller+PHY-- AC131 co-lay / Support 10/100 Mbps

Expand Slots: One PCIe x 16 / One PCIe slot / 2 PCI

Onboard IO: 1 Parallel Port / 2 PS2 Connectors / 1 x COM port ; 1 x VGA port / 1 (1 x RJ45 + 2 x USB 2.0) / 1 x Audio connectors : Mic-In, Line-In, Line-Out / 1 x (2 x USB 2.0)

Onboard IDE: An IDE controller on the NVIDIA chipset provides IDE HDD/CDROM with PIO bus / Master and Ultra DMA 100/133 operation mode

System Bios: ACPI, APM, DMI, SMBIOS, PnP, USB, PC99, PC2001, Y2K Compliant

USB 2.0: 8 USB2.0 ports

IEEE 1394: Supports up to 2 x 1394 ports (option)

Form Factor: uBTX Form Factor - 10.5(L) x 10.4(W) (unit : inch)

Serial ATA: Controlled by NVIDIA MCP51G / SATA II PORT 2 port with 3GB/s support (2ports support only with MCP51G)

would i notice a difference if i upgraded to the Athlon 64 X2 with 4gigs of memory and a 1tb sata hd? is it worth the money to spend on the upgrades or new rig? could you explain the memory problem you posted in more detail for me.
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When you have different ram modules (2700, 3200) the stronger ram (pc3200 200mhz)will always run at the lower ram speed (pc2700 166mhz)

To work in Dual channel they have to be the same size (512 mo (1 go) x 2 or 4) same brand (Kingston x 2 or 4) and same speed (pc3200 x 2 or 4).

Ex: Your pc2700 will run at 166mhz in single channel and 333mhz in dual while the pc3200 in single will run at 200mhz and 400mhz in dual.

Also make sure they are DDR2 to be able to use it in Dual channel.

Your set up makes it that your ram is running at the PC2700 speed and in single channel.
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When you have different ram modules (2700, 3200) the stronger ram (pc3200 200mhz)will always run at the lower ram speed (pc2700 166mhz)

To work in Dual channel they have to be the same size (512 mo (1 go) x 2 or 4) same brand (Kingston x 2 or 4) and same speed (pc3200 x 2 or 4).

Ex: Your pc2700 will run at 166mhz in single channel and 333mhz in dual while the pc3200 in single will run at 200mhz and 400mhz in dual.

Also make sure they are DDR2 to be able to use it in Dual channel.

Your set up makes it that your ram is running at the PC2700 speed and in single channel.


Thank you for your response, I will remove the two pc2700.
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When you have different ram modules (2700, 3200) the stronger ram (pc3200 200mhz)will always run at the lower ram speed (pc2700 166mhz)

To work in Dual channel they have to be the same size (512 mo (1 go) x 2 or 4) same brand (Kingston x 2 or 4) and same speed (pc3200 x 2 or 4).

Ex: Your pc2700 will run at 166mhz in single channel and 333mhz in dual while the pc3200 in single will run at 200mhz and 400mhz in dual.

Also make sure they are DDR2 to be able to use it in Dual channel.

Your set up makes it that your ram is running at the PC2700 speed and in single channel.

DDR2 isn't compatible with DDR. They're different slots.
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Also, socket 939 is all but obsolete now. Any upgrades are still going to be money that could be better off saved for something better overall. I wouldn't spend much more on this one in my opinion.

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