[Martyn*]

Before getting windows 7 Ultimate (which I have now) I was used to using Microsoft Office 2003 with Frontpage 2003 on Vista. It was simple to use (Frontpage) albeit I have read some reviews about it recently being quite aweful when published to the web.

Apparently, frontpage has been ditched for this other: Sharepoint.

I don't know what this works like, but it sounds to me quite cumbersome and complex, and even though I have Office 2007, I don't have this Sharepoint program installed; it is not even on the installation disc.

I guess I would need to download it from a website? For a price, of course...

What happened to old reliable Frontpage anyway? I got it with windows 2003 with no extra cost, and was a piece of cake to use.

Another web design program which has replaced frontpage now is Web Experience or something of that name. Could cost over a hundred £s to buy! So I take it they've not included a web developer in Office 2007...Disappointing!

Next they'll be brining something else out and the last one will be then obsolete.

I have frontpage 2003 still on disc, and I would like to use it to create a website now, but I am told it is incompatible with Office 2007. So I am not happy about that. I liked frontpage. It was not complex, and it was user-friendly.

So what next? Should I go for this Sharepoint? I read that microsoft are giving it away on free download, but I don't trust to download it.

I reckon Sharepoint would be cumbersome anyway, and you have to download updates to use it. I hate downloading updates, especially when I don't exactly know what they are for, and what could happen if I download them.

I love website building and am used to Frontpage. Now frontpage is incompatible with 2007, and I'm at sea without a paddle...!

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[AstraNut]

FrontPage is the world's WORSE web editor. Word, WordPad, Publisher and even the infamous FrontPage should NEVER be used for web pages. They guarantee that your web pages will NOT be cross-browser compatible because of all the Microsoft Schema code it adds. Only IE and Maxthon understand this code. Additionally, FrontPage requires server extensions be installed to work correctly.

Better...

Web Editors (PC):

10 Fantastic Free Web Page Editors: http://www.elated.co...b-page-editors/
Free HTML Editors, Web Editors, and WYSIWYG Web Editors and Site Builders:
http://www.thefreeco...tml#htmleditors
PageBreeze (Free visual (WYSIWYG) and HTML tag/source modes): http://www.pagebreeze.com/
Serif WebPlus SE: http://myrtc.blogspo...webplus-se.html
Notepad++ (Free source code editor and Notepad replacement that supports several languages): http://notepad-plus-plus.org/ or
http://notepad-plus....net/uk/site.htm
Download Trellian WebPage (Free): http://www.trellian....page/index.html

Komodo Edit: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
Aptana Studio: http://www.aptana.org/products/studio2
PSPad: http://www.pspad.com/
jEdit: http://www.jedit.org/
TextWrangler: http://www.barebones...s/textwrangler/

[Martyn*]

FrontPage is the world's WORSE web editor. Word, WordPad, Publisher and even the infamous FrontPage should NEVER be used for web pages. They guarantee that your web pages will NOT be cross-browser compatible because of all the Microsoft Schema code it adds. Only IE and Maxthon understand this code. Additionally, FrontPage requires server extensions be installed to work correctly.

Better...

Web Editors (PC):

10 Fantastic Free Web Page Editors: http://www.elated.co...b-page-editors/
Free HTML Editors, Web Editors, and WYSIWYG Web Editors and Site Builders:
http://www.thefreeco...tml#htmleditors
PageBreeze (Free visual (WYSIWYG) and HTML tag/source modes): http://www.pagebreeze.com/
Serif WebPlus SE: http://myrtc.blogspo...webplus-se.html
Notepad++ (Free source code editor and Notepad replacement that supports several languages): http://notepad-plus-plus.org/ or
http://notepad-plus....net/uk/site.htm
Download Trellian WebPage (Free): http://www.trellian....page/index.html

Komodo Edit: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
Aptana Studio: http://www.aptana.org/products/studio2
PSPad: http://www.pspad.com/
jEdit: http://www.jedit.org/
TextWrangler: http://www.barebones...s/textwrangler/

Thanks for those links! I was using Notepad++ earlier, and learnt some HTML basic stuff, but if I can get a basic website done in a matter of days, I would not go through the hassle of learning HTML.

I've just been using Microsoft Publisher to create some web pages. I might use it/them for my website.

But first I shall trall through those links...

I've heard of Pagebreeze before. What do you think of it?

Edited by Martyn*, 26 September 2010 - 06:05 PM.

[AstraNut]

All those are better than Publisher or any other Microsoft ones you have been using. I do not understand why you do not want to use proper web editor unless you do not want your pages to be cross-browser compatible nor meet the latest recommended standards. HTML and CSS are not that hard to learn and they give you an advantage over others who want to add bells and whistles to their site, but have no idea how to code it in. WYSIWYG do not do this type of coding for you.

Basic web pages that are not cross-browser compatible are just perfect for any Visual (WYSIWYG) Editor. These should be used if you are not serious about your pages and just playing around. Search Engines will definitely have problems with them so your page rank will never get better.

Good luck.

[Martyn*]

All those are better than Publisher or any other Microsoft ones you have been using. I do not understand why you do not want to use proper web editor unless you do not want your pages to be cross-browser compatible nor meet the latest recommended standards. HTML and CSS are not that hard to learn and they give you an advantage over others who want to add bells and whistles to their site, but have no idea how to code it in. WYSIWYG do not do this type of coding for you.

Basic web pages that are not cross-browser compatible are just perfect for any Visual (WYSIWYG) Editor. These should be used if you are not serious about your pages and just playing around. Search Engines will definitely have problems with them so your page rank will never get better.

Good luck.

Okay. I'll give them a try. I've already learnt some HTML already, albeit just the basic stuff. I downloaded Pagebreezer this morning, so I'll give it a try and let you know what I think about it.

[dsenette]

also, as a note. sharepoint is not a webdesign software package, you cannot design websites from scratch with sharepoint. sharepoint is a document workspace solution from microsoft that will allow you to build a SPECIFIC type of "website" that follows it's own structure. you don't actually create any HTML or anything within sharepoint, you just set up a site based on templates and plugins that are available. it's typically used in corporate environments for making intranet type sites to share information inside of a company

[barondesalis]

Hello Martyn,

Though this thread is almost antique it only a while ago became hot for me. I am a Frontpage adept as well and think my website (www.iceskatesmuseum.com) is not that bad. I agree about the disadvantages, but learning CSS is not that easy for people that use it but a few times during the year. That is different with Frontpage and each time I investigate a different approach I come back to it. Nevertheless it keeps jurking, most likely due to the professionals that keep saying I am out of age (but yeah I am 70++). So, I wonder what you decided to do in the end. Thank you for a reaction beforehand.

Bert (barondesalis)

[LorJay]

Hello Martyn,

Though this thread is almost antique it only a while ago became hot for me. I am a Frontpage adept as well and think my website (www.iceskatesmuseum.com) is not that bad. I agree about the disadvantages, but learning CSS is not that easy for people that use it but a few times during the year. That is different with Frontpage and each time I investigate a different approach I come back to it. Nevertheless it keeps jurking, most likely due to the professionals that keep saying I am out of age (but yeah I am 70++). So, I wonder what you decided to do in the end. Thank you for a reaction beforehand.

Bert (barondesalis)

Hi Bert & Martin,

 

I know this is an old thread, but I still use Frontpage for my personal day to day website stuff.   I am a hobbyist and there is nothing wrong with FrontPage.  There are still places that will host your site as well.    If you need something for professional development, I suggest Visual Studio, its free and not as hard to use as many of the other editors.  I hope your doing well, Jason