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Need advice for upgradeing my gaming computer


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I game all the time on my computer and for the past wile Ive noticed the performance has gone vastly down, i eventually want to play crysis 2 on here but as it is i cant even play Civilization 5 in DX 10/11 mode im forced to use DX9, with several other games i play i have to lower the graphics way down to try and keep the choppiness to a minimum, i want to upgrade it so that i can actually run them at full or near it graphics and be able to enjoy the visuals developers worked hard to get into the games, keep shadows on for once instead of it being the first thing i have to remove completely just to play well, to that end im not sure what parts i should get to upgrade it and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/26/2010, 02:05:18
Machine name: USER-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: RN665AA-ABA m7767c
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel® Core™2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 1953MB used, 4697MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Display Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042010DE&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1702 MB
Dedicated Memory: 295 MB
Shared Memory: 1407 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (59Hz)
Monitor Name: HP w22 Wide LCD Monitor
Monitor Model: HP w22
Monitor Id: HWP26AE
Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5896 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.5896
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/9/2010 16:38:00, 12471400 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42D3-11CF-6664-2C241CC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0193
SubSys ID: 0x042010DE
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Driver Strong Name: oem11.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section003:8.17.12.5896:pci\ven_10de&dev_0193
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_B ModeWMV9_B ModeVC1_A ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps:

D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_042010DE&REV_A2
Display Memory: 1702 MB
Dedicated Memory: 295 MB
Shared Memory: 1407 MB
Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic Non-PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id:
Native Mode: unknown
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5896 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.5896
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/9/2010 16:38:00, 12471400 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42D3-11CF-6664-2C241CC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0193
SubSys ID: 0x042010DE
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Driver Strong Name: oem11.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section003:8.17.12.5896:pci\ven_10de&dev_0193
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_B ModeWMV9_B ModeVC1_A ModeWMV9_A
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Hi SilverDragonLord,:D

More information will be needed.

Is this your original computer, > http://h10025.www1.h...1002_AUEN#N1152 ?

If yes, Apart from the video cards in your posted specs, What other modification/additions have been made?

What is your location?

How much are you willing to spend?
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that seems to be the original, i added a 2TB HD , a 650 watt power supply, removed the old modem and added it all into a new bigger case, edmonton alberta and id say 500-1000 for a price range for now, and thx for the welcome, its good to be here

Edited by SilverDragonLord, 26 September 2010 - 09:42 AM.

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Hi.

The memory on your cards is letting you down a bit.

Civilisation 5 requirements, > http://www.2kgames.c...ort/#systemreqs

Crysis (original) requirements, > http://crysiseu.com/...ent/view/145/2/

This page has links to meters which can diagnose your system and give suggestion. Read the forum as well, the results seem somewhat mixed, >
http://www.tomshardw...ysis-test-sites


Cyrsis 2 requirements, read this, > http://www.tomshardw...e-FPS,9841.html

This is the link to your Mobo, > http://h10025.www1.h...=c00864946#N900 a macro ATX with

Socket 775 and you have the top CPU for this board, so not upgradeable. Not worth spending on more DDR2 ram.

Before we start looking at cards.

Could not find your case on the net. How many fans?

What is the brand of your PSU?

Is your system clean?

Download and install Speedfan. See if your system is cool, or not.
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this is the case http://www.coolermas...product_id=2709

i got 3 fans in it

its a cooler master PSU and its actuly a 600w http://www.coolermas...p&go.x=0&go.y=0

it should be clean and only one item on speedfan has a flame icon, 53C for GPU the highest for now around 74, also it looks like fan 1 is running at 1700 rpm, fan 2 500 rpm and fan 3 0, all fans are running but i think theres a problem with fan 3 with it showing its rpms at 0

Edited by SilverDragonLord, 27 September 2010 - 10:34 PM.

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I suspect that the loss of performance may also be due to overheating. Speedfan will only detect readings from sensors on the Mobo, sometimes has a problem deciding which fan is connected to which sender. Your Mobo appears only to have 2 fan headers, so your 3rd fan (front??) will not be detected, It looks like GPU should be the CPU and if so, the temp is to high.

With the computer turned OFF, check that the CPU fan is connected to the correct header and the rear fan is connected to the other fan header. Startup and see what the temps are.

Please read this topic, > http://www.geekstogo...ics-card-fried/, follow the steps in #10 by rshaffer61 and post back.
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ya it should be the front fan, heres the report, there was no quick report summary option though so i just selected the default hardware only one

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The front fan is not connected to the Mobo so will not be detected by Speedfan, It may have a control switch or an in-line controller, (varies the voltage, varying the speed). Can not find fan speed or CPU temps in the report.

I think we need to get a diagnostic on possible overheating by a more experienced tech before spending money on an upgrade if it is not necessary.

Please start another topic here, > http://www.geekstogo...nd-peripherals/ and in topic tittle type, "system overheating?" description, "CPU appears to reach 74C" Say you are upgrading and seem to have an overheating issue. Provide a link to this topic so that people will know what has been done so far.

Sorry if this is a bit frustrating, but i don't want to put you wrong.

In the meantime here is a link for some quality video cards for you to contemplate. > http://www.newegg.co...5E14-125-343-TS

Edited by iammykyl, 29 September 2010 - 03:25 AM.

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seems my CPU is good there bolth in the 40Cs even the one at 100% usage is only at 46C from what i can gather its my graphics card that's hot and ive known for awile it was a hot one i try to give it lots of room for the air to circulate, i tried all the tabs i can think of on speedfan and cant seem to adjust the speed there going so oh well, im thinking of upgrading my card to the GeForce GTX 480, does anyone else have this card and if so hows the performance?
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You are looking at near to $500.00 plus. With the rest of the system you have I can't see you getting any benefit over 460 at half the price.
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thanks for the advice, with what ya said about the rest of my system what are the other things u can see there that are holding my comp back?
Also since the GTX 460 is less then half the price would there be any benefit for me to have two of them hooked together, if i can even do that with the 600 wat power supply that i got

Edited by SilverDragonLord, 02 October 2010 - 11:44 PM.

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Your motherboard doesn't support multiple graphics cards. While upgrading the graphics card will help, your CPU is also a limiting factor, and your motherboard doesn't allow for overclocking and doesn't have much room for upgrading the CPU either. Basically, you don't have much of a chance of this system ever running Crysis 2 (or even Crysis 1 for that matter) at max settings without replacing the motherboard (and with it, necessarily, the CPU and RAM), essentially building a new computer.
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Since getting the card will help abit i think ill pick it up and get that done for now and as for the other parts MOBO/CPU/Ram, are there any you would suggest?

After installing the card i was able to play that demo at its maximum setting then as a final test to see how much improvement there was i was able to play crysis warhead on maximum settings with only a little lag in some of the bigger battles, so all in all a huge improvement, thanks all

Edited by SilverDragonLord, 07 October 2010 - 01:03 PM.

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You did not say which card you installed
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ah my bad, i installed the GTX 460
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