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Hope someone can help, just changed motherboards abd all working perfect, had even put the case back together, then hit the start button and get this message since the last step was to take out a really old Samsung cd drive and plug in my Sony NEC DVD rw drive, which has always been no problem swapping it back and forth between other computers. Message "A bootable device has not been detected", can't go to splash screen or anything works, puter freeze. Unhooked the Sony and plugged back in old Samsung, no problems at all. Thenplugged in a Sony NEC CD-RW drive, and it doid the tha same as the DVD RW! Puter not recognising any of the Sony's but does the old Samsung. Please help, it's drove me crazy, and new motherboard with no DVD!

System:Operating System System Model
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (build 2600)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States) Intel Corporation
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
2.80 gigahertz Intel Pentium D
16 kilobyte primary memory cache
1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (2 total)
Not hyper-threaded Board: Intel Corporation D945GCNL AAD97184-102
Serial Number: BTNL72700KTK
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. NL94510J.86A.0036.2009.1231.1407 12/31/2009
Drives Memory Modules c,d
80.01 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
44.12 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-224B [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

WDC WD800BB-22JHA0 [Hard drive] (80.03 GB) -- drive 0, s/n WD-WCAM92058835, rev 05.01C05, SMART Status: Healthy
2038 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

Slot 'J6H1' has 1024 MB (serial number 0x00028781)
Slot 'J6J1' has 1024 MB (serial number 0xE018E29E)
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c: (NTFS on drive 0) 75.67 GB 42.32 GB free
d: (FAT32 on drive 0) 4.33 GB 1.80 GB free

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Controllers Display
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Intel® ICH7 Family Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF
Intel® N10/ICH7 Family Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
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When you disconnect the Samsung DO NOT connect the Sony. Reboot
Now go to BIOS and check in BIOS what is listed there., set HDD as FIRST BOOT device. exit after saving normally F10
Presuming that the BIOS did recognise that NO optical drive was connected. Shut down and NOW connect the SONY.
The system should now of course boot from the HDD.
If it does NOT go back to BIOS - is the SONY now seen in BIOS


I have just had a look at that motherboard
Whilst I do not think this is the problem have you installed the latest chipset driver it was only issued Sept 2010. Always the best idea to have the latest drivers especially the chipset driver.

Additionally is the old drive IDE and the newer one SATA or both the same etc.
If IDE and the connection to the drive is not keyed are you sure you have Pin 1 to red on cable.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 14 February 2011 - 10:17 AM.

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"Additionally is the old drive IDE and the newer one SATA or both the same etc"

I had tried to use the Sata drive, but went back to my old one. This might be causing a problem?

Going to try your suggestion on DVD drive now.
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If you have the motherboard manual have a look at this aspect of it
If you your drive has S-ATA interface, connect the drive to another S-ATA port on your main board. Consult you board's manual. Some motherboard manufacturers have special ports for optical drives

See this for YOUR motherboard
http://www.intel.com... drive)#notseen

It appears you only have the one WD hard drive. If that is correct you do not have a RAID array.
If you have been altering settings in the BIOS are you sure you have not set RAID, that COULD possibly be the reason for the message "bootable device not detected"

That link above requires careful reading to ensure you are connecting this drive correctly.

If you can get a boot with the new drive installed, is it shown in Computer Management, disc management.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 14 February 2011 - 10:48 AM.

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Moved Hard disc to first priority to boot. Re-booted fine, so shutdown and connected DVD, won't boot, get same message across top...No bootable device, Insert boot device and press any key.
So unhooked DVD, and boots right up normal...then plugged in DVD while running, screen went black.

I know the DVD is ok, was working no problems till switched to this mb.

Also, I can connect the old Samsung CD, it boots up no problems and works!
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Had tried to use Sata hard drive with an adapter, gave up, didn't work all correctly, had been to the Intel link you provided. This no concern,will use it for another SATA mb later, this board is PATA (IDE) connections. No Sata connector. If can get DVD working, I am good to go!
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"If you have been altering settings in the BIOS are you sure you have not set RAID, that COULD possibly be the reason for the message "bootable device not detected"
Have dl new bios from Intel, also pulled jumper to reset, still not recognizing DVD. No knowlege of RAID install, so staying away from there for now.
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Also, my other mb and 2 connectors, one for HD, and one for the DVD. This one has only one connector, I have the HD on the master and the DVD on the slave. Works perfect with the Samsung cd, so fiq no problem with the Sony...BUT it don't like either one of my Sony's, DVD or CD! Just the Samsung!
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Think this is my problem?


Connecting the IDE Cable
The IDE cable can connect two drives to the desktop board. The cable supports the
ATA-66/100 transfer protocol. Figure 18 shows the correct installation of the cable.
NOTES
ATA-66/100 compatible cables are backward compatible with drives using slower IDE
transfer protocols. If an ATA-66/100 disk drive and a disk drive using any other IDE
transfer protocol are attached to the same cable, the maximum transfer rate between
the drives may be reduced to that of the slowest drive.
Do not connect an ATA device as a slave on the same IDE cable as an ATAPI master
device. For example, do not connect an ATA hard drive as a slave to an ATAPI
CD-ROM drive.
For correct function of the cable:
• Observe the precautions in "Before You Begin" on page 23.
• Attach the cable end with the single connector (blue) to the Intel desktop board
(Figure 18, A).
• Attach the cable end with the two closely spaced connectors (gray and black) to
the drives (Figure 18, B).
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With respect you appear to be out of your depth here.

Intel Corporation D945GCNL

this board is PATA (IDE) connections. No Sata connector.

This document shows the location of the major components on the Intel® Desktop Board D945GCNL.

Posted Image


T IS SATA

Edited by Macboatmaster, 14 February 2011 - 11:46 AM.

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Looks like out of it on this board, page 39 0n Intels Product spec

Connecting the Serial ATA (SATA) Cable
The SATA cable supports the Serial ATA protocol and connects a single drive to the
desktop board. For correct cable function:
1. Observe the precautions in "Before You Begin" on page 23.
2. Attach the locking cable end to the connector on the board (Figure 19,

So looks like I have to get a sata interface DVD, the one I have is ide interface.
Confused about this board, since the HD connects with the old ide connector.
Is this correct?
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rc775

I think it best if we start again , if you a are happy to.
1.Is the DVD drive you are trying to connect ie: the new Sony one SATA or not.

2. The Western Digital HDD will connect IDE as it that is its interface

ManufacturerWestern DigitalModelWD800BB-22JHA0PhysicalInterfaceATA-100

I have to admit to being confused as here - I asked

Additionally is the old drive IDE and the newer one SATA or both the same etc.
If IDE and the connection to the drive is not keyed are you sure you have Pin 1 to red on cable.


and you replied

I had tried to use the Sata drive, but went back to my old one. This might be causing a problem?


Edited by Macboatmaster, 14 February 2011 - 12:29 PM.

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1.Is the DVD drive you are trying to connect ie: the new Sony one SATA or not.

NOT

The old Samsung is not SATA either....but it works in this D945GCNL, no problems. It is hooked up again working with no computer problems, .....its both the newer Sony's that are causing the problem.

Both the HD and Sony DVD came out of D845GERG2 I have used for years. It had 2 IDE connectors with no 4 sata connections.

Looks like to me, have to buy Sony sata interface DVD?
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I had tried to use the Sata drive, but went back to my old one. This might be causing a problem?


So which was this a reference to please
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I bought a new SATA HD by mistake, there is no connector for it ont his board, so put it up for later. The Hard drive I am using is the same one out of my D 845. Hard drive is not the issue here, it's why the Samsung works no problem,connected as slave on same line as hard drive, but both the Sony's that I have been using for years are not being recognized and computer not booting when connected.

Why this is happening is a mystery to me.
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