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if you are using a firewall other than windows normally it will be on the taskbar.
If you are using windows, Control Panel - Windows Firewall.

Send me a list of your uninstall from Add/ Remove programs OR to make it easy
Download HiJack
http://www.trendmicr.../HiJackThis.msi
Run
and DO THIS.

To access the Uninstall Manager you would do the following:

  • Start HijackThis
  • Click on the Config button
  • Click on the Misc Tools button
  • Click on the Open Uninstall Manager button.
The click save list. slect where to. Click SAVE
Open the notepad file and copy and paste the open results pls.

NOTE PLEASE DO NOT ATTACH ANY OTHER SCAN FROM HIJack I only want the uninstall list.
Also, may I please caution you - do not mess with HiJack, unless you KNOW what you are doing. you can completely stop your computer working with just four or so clicks.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 14 March 2011 - 04:19 PM.

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I'll be back tomorrow......Thanks!
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GemMaster Mystic
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Hotfix for Windows Media Player 10 (KB903157)
Hotfix for Windows XP (KB2443685)
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Learn2 Player (Uninstall Only)
Macromedia Flash Player
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1
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Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Security Update (KB2416447)
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Security Update (KB979906)
Microsoft Antimalware
Microsoft Internationalized Domain Names Mitigation APIs
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Microsoft National Language Support Downlevel APIs
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Microsoft Plus! Photo Story 2 LE
Microsoft Security Client
Microsoft Security Essentials
Microsoft Silverlight
Modem Helper
Motorola Driver Installation
Motorola USB Drivers
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB927978)
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB936181)
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB954430)
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB973688)
Musicmatch for Windows Media Player
Musicmatch® Jukebox
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Security Update for Windows Media Player (KB2378111)
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Just before you go - or when you come back how is it now on startup pls?
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PLEASE DO NOT THINK that I am being awkward but having uninstalled Glary utilities and warning you of the dangers of registry cleaners optimizers make your computer go faster programs you have this installed
jv16 PowerTools 2009
from here.
http://www.macecraft.com/

PLEASE ACCEPT, not just my advice but the opinion of the expert on the link I sent you in post 62 having found Glary Utilities on your win audit log.

Have you installed this since because I do not remember seeing it on Win Audit.

To try and convincve you, IF that is needed. I appreciate you may not have realised you still had it below is a short brief I have prepared on WHY you should not use registry cleaners etc.
START OF BRIEF NOTE ON REGISTRY CLEANERS
Please accept my advice, in case you are not certain it is correct -

HOWEVER to try and convince you and for the benefit of anyone who may be reading this thread and thinking of using a registry cleaner -

There is generally speaking no such thing as a TRUSTED registry fix.

See this:

http://miekiemoes.bl...weaking_13.html

and this

After running 'PC registry Cleaner' on my laptop with Win7professional I now cannot access windows explorer [returns a no association message] and some programs will not install.

And there is the proof in the pudding that Registry Cleaners do more damage than they solve.

- on a brand new computer

Registry Errors in brand new PC

Scanning Report

Total scan items: 296239

Total errors found: 132

High risk error count: 12

Count of errors recommended to ignore: 0

5 Add/Remove Programs

0 Browser Helper Objects & Configuration Files

10 Custom Controls

43 Deep Registry Scan

0 Device Drivers

20 File Extensions

0 Help and Resource, & History Lists

6 Invalid ActiveX

42 Invalid Files Path

and here is the reply from a very experienced Geek-with ack to "gerryf"

Quote

"You can install a brand new, pure OEM copy of Windows straight from Microsoft and it will likely find 120 "errors"

What I am saying is they are not really errors, they are conditions a programmer has decided are errors"

and I MACBOATMASTER, would add that the errors found by these programs are far too frequently not errors, but the deletion of the registry key by the program, causes REAL errors, insofar as the deleted key corrupts the registry due to the inter-association of multiple keys amongst the hundreds of entries in the registry.

Registry Structure: The Tree, Nodes and Keys

The data is stored in the registry in a tree structure format, for those who have never opened the Registry Editor, you'd find its layout is similar to what you would see when you open your Windows Explorer. Each node within the registry tree contains a key which may have both subkeys and data entries (called values). Depending on the application you run, the application may need only the associated key while others may need the value data set for that specific key. A hive in the registry is a group of keys, subkeys, and values in the registry that has a set of supporting files containing backups of its data. The Windows boot process automatically retrieves data from these supporting files.

AND my attempt to explain it in simple terms - therein lies the problem with the so-called registry cleaner/optimizer programs. the program decides what is not needed and can be deleted. However, frequently the inter-dependance of the various branches of the tree are not recognised by the program AND this is where it goes horribly wrong. - MACBOATMASTER

That all said, it is YOUR computer - the decision is yours.

END OF pre-prepared brief.

SEE NEXT POST PLEASE

Edited by Macboatmaster, 14 March 2011 - 05:50 PM.

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You have Revo Uninstaller 1.75
That is the 2008 edition.
Current is 1.91.
If you ever need to use it - always use the latest version.
Revo uninstaller is excellent
HOWEVER always be aware of the risk please - YOU must ensure that what you are uininstalling appertains ONLY to the program or application you are uninstalling as NOT to do so is back to why registry cleaner are dangerous. OR duplicate file finders.

Pls check your own uninstall list
You have two entries for Adobe AIR
two for google toolbar and two for HP Laserjet all-in-one.
I very much doubt you use or need Adobe AIR it is provided with other Adobe downloads part and is really in my opinion indicative of how bloated Adobe has become. UNINSTALL ONLY the Adobe AIR>

Your list shows
ActiveX download Control -Trial version
If it is THIS
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UNINSTALL IT>
If it is not would you please tell me what it is.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 14 March 2011 - 06:02 PM.

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One thing I noticed is your java is way out of date.
The newest version is Version 6 Update 24
Your version is Java™ 6 Update 17
This is a serious security risk and you should think about replacing this by doing the following.
Please download JavaRa from the link in my signature below to your desktop and unzip it to its own folder
  • * Run JavaRa.exe, pick the language of your choice and click Select. Then click Remove Older Versions.
    * Accept any prompts.
    * Open JavaRa.exe again and select Search For Updates.
    * Select Update Using Sun Java's Website then click Search and click on the Open Webpage button.
  • Download and install the latest Java Runtime Environment (JRE) version for your computer.





Java Download Link
http://www.java.com/...load/manual.jsp
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5 minutes 20 seconds for start up to usable now. I think I have removed everything you recommended, and I haven't installed anything except possibly the trial activeX when I was trying to get Service Pack 3 to download. I have removed it now and that wasn't the problem anyway.
I'm not doing anything with this laptop while you are helping me.
Thanks
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Did you do the steps I suggested in my last post?
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Did all that. The event properties said 4kb in bad sectors



Way back at the start of this thread, when I asked you to do a chkdsk, it reported as per the above quote.
We then ran the Dell diagnostic and I think the Seatools for dos and it passed both you said.

If you DID have bad sectors and the system is detecting disk errors and setting what is known as the dirty bit, which then schedules a chkdsk, on what is known as autochk, which runs on boot and produces a screen telling you chkdsk is running etc., you must be aware of this, so I presume it is not scheduling autochk.

After you have done what rshaffer61 has suggested would you pls run a full chkdsk.
That is, as per my post number 4.
However to save you looking back Here are the instructions
Run a chkdsk /r at cmd prompt or right click hard drive, properties, tools, error checking, check now, click to check both boxes, click start and agree to run on restart.
When that finishes it is a five stage check. Pls do NOT interrupt it.
Go Control Panel, admin functions, event viewr, application in left pane and winlogon in main window, that will be the chkdsk results.
Any file errors and any bad sectors are the relevant points. Minor file inconsistencies are of no importance.

The reason for that is that bad sectors can never be repaired, what happens is that chkdsk, simply recovers the data and rewrites it to good sectors.

Would you also confirm pls that you have uninstalled that JV16 Power Tools 2009, as if that is scheduled to run at start at startup, albeit it was not in the startup list, it would account for what although reduced from 10 minutes is still unacceptable at 5 mins.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 15 March 2011 - 11:20 AM.

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To: Macboat, updateed to correct Java, then ran checkdsk. Still 4kb in bad sectors, same as before. No autochk. Ran Dell diagnostics, but not Seatools. I have uninstalled JV16 Power Tools 2009.

To: rshaffer61 Updated Java to Version 6 Update 24.

All steps from each of you have been completed. I will reboot and give you a time for it.
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Sorry was doing work for my neighbor. Any word on the time frame now on the bootup?
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Poker Stars: 5 minutes
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OK I hate to think it but something else may be involved here.
Still getting bad sectors which would cause slowdown as the system tries to search through that.
The other possible answer is some type of infection.
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Any suggestions, or is this hopeless?
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As I said many posts ago, those bad sectors on the hard drive are not a good sign.
Although I appreciate it passed the Seatools and other diagnostics test.
The thread being so long now, I honestly cannot just remember where we are at.
I can only suggest, that you either try a repair of windows as on this thread
http://www.geekstogo...air-windows-xp/

AND if that does not work, then I think it is time for a new hard drive and a complete reinstall.

I do not have the time now to read all the thread AGAIN.
If you have already done some of this then obviously I am sorry for repeating the suggestions and can only then suggest that you go to the repair install or the clean installation.


I HAVE NOW READ THE THREAD

yes installed, speed pretty . Way better than it was!!! nOT SURE I remember what it used ato be


This on post 77, then the sudden reported slow down again suggests the bad sectors, or as the Moderator rshaffer61 said an infection.

Edited by rshaffer61, 18 March 2011 - 09:26 AM.
Removed malware advice

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