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Windows XP will not start...hd accessible in other machine


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Neo31801

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Hello again,
I have started cleaning out my basement full stack of desktops I have acquired over the years and have stumbled on yet another problem machine..

Windows Xp OEM is installed on an 80 g hd...When I start it up it goes to the black screen with options of how to boot...apparently there was an issue when I parked it in the basement years ago, anyways any option I choose takes me to the loading screen (win xp logo) and it sticks there...forever.The green process bar is always moving so I assume its not hung up, just trying to load.

I want to put a clean install of win xp back on it but I cant get past the "welcome to winxp" screen.

I popped the drive in a different computer and can access all the files fine.I pulled off pics and docs I wanted to save and tried to format the disc before sticking it in the original computer to load windows on, but it will not format..
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I can not get this HD to load into WinXP on one machine and can not format it for a clean install in a different one...what to do?!?!
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Put the drive back in the original computer
If you know the make of the HDD download the manufacturers utility from here and format the drive in Dos
http://www.tacktech....tid=287#seagate

Alternatively use one of the many utilities available
or the XP CD in recovery console
or, if the computer has a floppy drive use a Win98 boot disc, yes it will work in XP and format from there.

http://www.onecomput...e/win98_img.exe

Edited by Macboatmaster, 17 March 2011 - 06:17 PM.

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I have a floppy on the machine with the issues...however i do not have a floppy on this one to make the copy to use

It is a Seagate 340016A ... which one do I need to choose from the tacktech site?

thanks again for your fast and accurate replies!


should have mentioned earlier...I have tried starting the machine with the xp cd in the cdrom and it still goes to this screen
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with the drive out the machine will boot from the cd
i think i should stop trying to fix things lol

Edited by Neo31801, 17 March 2011 - 07:09 PM.

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http://www.seagate.c...ols/seatooldreg

Make it on a CD instead of a floppy.
OR if you want you can run Seagate disc wizard.
It depends on what you want to try.

Have you entered setup and set the Boot priority to CD.
Then asee if it will boot from the CD, enter recovery console and run chkdsk from RC.

OR download above format and start again.
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You need the DOS CD ISO version of the Sea Tools program.
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ok I now have cdrom as boot priority :D

when it boots from disc I have gotten 2 errors

fdc.sys is corrupt

I restarted and got this

file i386 ntkrnlmp.exe could not be loaded error code 4

When I ran the Seagate disc wizard it loaded and showed a screen that I think was this

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but it flashes off so fast I cant really see it...then black screen til i restart

rinse and repeat
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You need the DOS CD ISO version of the Sea Tools program.


this is what I dwnld

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OK good, now what you need to do is:

If downloaded file is of .iso type, use ImgBurn: http://www.imgburn.com/ to burn .iso file to a CD (select "Write image file to disc" option), and make the CD bootable.

Then once that is done:

To change Boot Sequence in your BIOS

Reboot the system and at the first post screen (where it is counting up memory) start tapping the DEL button
This will enter you into the Bios\Cmos area.
Find the Advanced area and click Enter
Look for Boot Sequence or Boot Options and highlight that click Enter
Now highlight the first drive and follow the directions on the bottom of the screen on how to modify it and change it to CDrom.
Change the second drive to the C or Main Drive
Once that is done then click F10 to Save and Exit
You will prompted to enter Y to verify Save and Exit. Click Y and the system will now reboot with the new settings.

Hopefully you have already put the ISO cd in the drive before all this. If everything is setup correctly you will boot directly to the Diagnostic program and never enter Windows.
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When I ran the Seagate disc wizard

That is NOT disk wizard, this is why the issue has become a little confused.
It is Seagate for DOS.
Because you posted as per the quote, it gave the impression that you were running the Disk Wizard.
The Wizard, now I have seen your latest post will do nothing for you,.

Here is the full tutorial on the Seagate for Dos

http://seagate.custk...1271&NewLang=en

Re the error messages on the XP CD.
It seems to me that either the CD drive is faulty or the XP CD is scratched, damaged OR "Is it a genuine XP CD?"

Re the Seagate
As that Seagate is a 40Gb Hard drive and the Seagate for Dos, has not identified it as that capacity - are you with respect, in view of this

apparently there was an issue when I parked it in the basement years ago,

wasting your time
See the above tutorial and go from there.

I realise you said it was 80Gb
Seagate list it as 40 - I think.
Barracuda ATA IV : ST340016A Barracuda ATA IV
40.0 GB
7200 rpm
9 ms
1023
256
63



Edited by Macboatmaster, 17 March 2011 - 08:57 PM.

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When I ran the Seagate disc wizard

That is NOT disk wizard, this is why the issue has become a little confused.
It is Seagate for DOS.


Re the error messages on the XP CD.
It seems to me that either the CD drive is faulty or the XP CD is scratched, damaged OR "Is it a genuine XP CD?"

Re the Seagate
As that Seagate is a 40Gb

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ok..im sorry for the confusion..it is on me

the hd is a ST380020A i looked at the wrong hd earlier...frustration is setting in

I am using the SeaTools for DOS not disk wizard

i dld the iso and burnt it to a disc

the pics on the tutorial link is what i see momentarily before the screen goes blank

with the Hdd out the disc loads all files fine..hdd in i get the errors...it is an original copy,but it does have a few scratches on it...it is also a retail copy,not a restore disk if that matters

@

OK good, now what you need to do is:


I have actually gotten this far with the help from Mac, thanks to both of you and sorry for the earlier confusion


Hold the phone!!

I tried the xp disc again and it loaded
I am at the page to set up, repair or exit without setting up windows

should i try to repair or go through with the set up?

Edited by Neo31801, 17 March 2011 - 10:21 PM.

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reapir using recovery console as per here
http://pcsupport.abo.../rconsole_3.htm


command "chkdsk C: /r"
presuming that the Windows installation you selected was the C:\ Windows

Edited by Macboatmaster, 18 March 2011 - 01:39 PM.

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chdsk C: /r



did you mean chkdsk C: /r ? :D

the command not recognized was killing me!

See I can figure some things out alone :D

Anywho, its at 10% and running ...You have been awesome through this struggle , thanks a million for your help so far!


ok it stopped at 50%

It appears the volume appears to contain 1 or more unrecoverable problem.

Where does this leave me?

Edited by Neo31801, 18 March 2011 - 12:33 PM.

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Yes sorry typo error my fault entirely

Should have checked it, more carefully.

It means on the face of it, exactly what it says, the hard drive has unrecoverable errors.
Try a chkdsk C: /p
That does not check for bad sectors.

However I would slave the hard drive to another machine and run the Seatools on it., If it fails the Seatools with bad sectors it is a new hard drive resolution
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Dont worry about the typo..I drew first blood with the confusion bullet earlier

I have nearly gave up on this drive.Already installed XP on the 40g I mentioned earlier and its running fine.

I did pop the 80g in as a slave and ran seatools

on the short test I received error code 6E9EDC64

long test is running while I eat

I searched for the error code and turned up nothing

Is it safe to use this drive as a secondary drive or is it trash..if trash is there anyway I can erase the data on the drive before i give up to recycling?
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http://www.google.co...x2aUxdg&cad=rja

Not exactly the same as your code, but unless you are going to ask Seagate, what the code means, I cannot find it on their list.
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