[rshaffer61]

Just take care not to let the fan spin freely when blowing it out. Make sure to keep the fins still as it could damage the bearings spinning that fast.

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and that might be a clue to the issue (i enjoyed "spinning" the fans when cleaning)

[briz_dad]

and that might be a clue to the issue (i enjoyed "spinning" the fans when cleaning)

[rshaffer61]

Yeah it is enticing but not a good ideal

[Digerati]

I like Speedfan but it does not always match the hardware sensors to the sensor labels in Speedfan properly (a common problem - see below). It says your CPU is a -59C. ICH is supposed to be the chipset's southbridge and that seems high Is that supposed to be a +59°C? I don't know. Maybe. 59°C is not hot, but I get nervous at 60°C, which is the threshold (for me) where the temp turns from warm, to very warm and that's too close to hot! So I'd be eyeballing that. But I think I would try a different monitor too and see if it matches up. Or see the note about Everest below and see if you can configure (re-label)

Here's my canned text on HW Monitors.

I would keep an eye on your temperatures, particularly, the CPU temps. Your motherboard utilities disk should have a monitoring program (or check for a more recent version on your motherboard or PC maker's website). If none, I recommend CoreTemp for newer Intel and AMD64 CPUs, or http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>RealTemp for Intels. SpeedFan is a great and popular alternative, or you can try Motherboard Monitor. Unfortunately, I have found that these programs often have problems properly identifying and labeling the sensor they are reading. The temperatures shown are as accurate as the inexpensive, low-tech sensors will allow, but it may say System Fan instead of CPU Fan. Fortunately, the programs do allow you to edit the labels, so I use Everest to verify the temperatures (as it is able to match sensor with label correctly), then edit the label in the monitoring program. In Everest, look under Computer > Sensor, then wait a couple seconds for the readings to appear. Unfortunately, Everest does not minimize to the system tray to show real-time temperatures, otherwise, you could use Everest instead of the others. Check but do not rely on the temps shown in the BIOS Setup Menu. While they are likely correct, running the BIOS Setup Menu is probably the least demanding task you can ask of your computer so it does not show the temps when the system is being taxed. But if the BIOS Setup Menu temps are high, you have problem that needs to be corrected. HWMonitor, from the makers of CPUID is also very informative, but does not minimize to the system tray.

[briz_dad]

Okay - I pulled off the cover and started it up.

Both fans running - they look to be running correctly.

One is a small fan that is just blowing air out of the case. The other is in a cone aimed at the motherboard.

Here is a screen shot of speedfan with the cover off and fans running.




Do those numbers seem high? If so, then something is definitely off... I'd have no idea what though and appreciate any help.

[Digerati]

As already note, those speedfan numbers are questionable.

[rshaffer61]

In post 10 I asked you to run chkdsk but see no confirmation it was run. Please verify and update us. Also please do the following.

Please Run the PCPitstop.com OverDrive Full Tests

Here's how:

You must use your Internet Explorer for this procedure. (doesn't work so well in Firefox or others). If your machine is running Vista or Windows 7, you must Select IE to “Run as Administrator”. After completing PCPitstop OverDrive you can close your IE browser and re-open it Normally so that you are no longer running as administrator.

Go to: http://www.pcpitstop.com
Click on "Free Computer Check-up" listed below PC Pitstop OverDrive
In the User Login - Click on "Sign up FREE!"
You'll need to submit a valid email address and create your own password, then click - Create Account(button)

Now enter your email address and password to Log in, Select - Scan this system Now!(button)
You will then be asked to download an ActiveX component and allow it to install.
It is safe and does not compromise your privacy.
Follow the on-screen prompts to install the ActiveX and to allow the Full Tests to be run on your machine.

The Full Tests take about 2 1/2 - 3 minutes on most machines.
When complete, a Results - Summary - Recommended Fixes will be displayed.

Please post the URL internet address, from your Results, back here into this Topic Thread so that we can review the configuration and present performance levels of your machine.

Note: During the graphics 2D and graphics 3D testing, your screen will display some rapidly moving objects.
If you are sensitive to visual flashing, it may cause dizziness. Therefore, look away from the screen during that portion of the testing.

After reviewing the results we will be more informed and may be able to provide better recommendations for you to work towards improving your machine's performance.

While PCPitstop does offer a variety of Paid Products, the PCPitstop OverDrive testing is FREE. Please ignore the references to Paid Products. We prefer to provide manual solution instructions that you can apply directly to your machine.

Best Regards

[briz_dad]

okay - i'll do the disc scan tonight and continue in the morning (i forgot about that - got caught up with the fan stuff)

[briz_dad]

Okay, the disc scan went without any issues...

Here is the URL from PCPitStop.com:
http://www.pcpitstop...?conid=24371791

Standing by,
Greg

[rshaffer61]

OK you need to upgrade these drivers:

• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939

[rshaffer61]

Download TFC by OldTimer to your desktop

• Please double-click TFC.exe to run it. (Note: If you are running on Vista, right-click on the file and choose Run As Administrator).
• It will close all programs when run, so make sure you have saved all your work before you begin.
• Click the Start button to begin the process. Depending on how often you clean temp files, execution time should be anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or two. Let it run uninterrupted to completion.
• Once it's finished it should reboot your machine. If it does not, please manually reboot the machine yourself to ensure a complete clean.

Background info courtesy of DonnaB Thank you

As for TFC, this is a tidbit of an article I found a while back by a MicroSoft MVP.

TFC (Temp File Cleaner) will clear out all temp folders for all user accounts (temp, IE temp, java, FF, Opera, Chrome, Safari), including Administrator, All Users, LocalService, NetworkService, and any other accounts in the user folder. It also cleans out the %systemroot%\temp folder and checks for .tmp files in the %systemdrive% root folder, %systemroot%, and the system32 folder (both 32bit and 64bit on 64bit OSs). It shows the amount removed for each location found (in bytes) and the total removed (in MB).

Before running, it will stop Explorer and all other running applications. When finished, if a reboot is required the user must reboot to finish clearing any in-use temp files.
-- TFC only cleans temp folders.
-- TFC will not clean URL history, prefetch, or cookies. Depending on how often someone cleans their temp folders, their system hardware, and how many accounts are present, it can take anywhere from a few seconds to a minute or more. TFC will completely clear all temp files where other temp file cleaners may fail.

[briz_dad]

I did a google search to update the drivers and came up with old info... Is it okay to use this "ALL NEW PC Pitstop Driver Alert 2.0" to update the drivers?

- greg

OK you need to upgrade these drivers:

• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
• intel®ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939

[rshaffer61]

I have never used it so i can't give you a honest answer

[briz_dad]

any recommendations for upgrading? (Intel search didn't work either - though I might be using the wrong keyword phrase)

[rshaffer61]

Lets see if we can find the exact mobo make and model.


Download and install Free Everest Home Edition
Open it.
1: In left pane expand Computer folder.
2: Click once on Summary
3: In upper menu, go Report
4: And then to Quick Report-Summary
5: Save it in text file, and paste it in your next post.
Click the + by computer, click on Sensor. Get a screenshot and post it so I can check your temps and voltages...


DO NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING UNDER THE LINE THAT SAYS "DEBUG- PCI"