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Windows XP sometimes start and sometime does not


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patmoore01

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I have a Dell Inspirion 546S (three months old purchased new).
Microsoft XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 3.
The issue is when I shut the system down it takes numerous restart for me to finally get the system back up. Sometimes it hangs and sometimes it goes through the full process and I get the sound it makes when it is up but the screen is black, sometimes it does a chkdsk but it still does not start. It is a hit and miss type of situation, I have to constantly shut the system down and restart until it finally decides to start. I do not have the reinstallation cd the cd the reinstallation cd that came with the system is for Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit but that is not what is on my system right now. I also had a couple of viruses that I went through the processes on your forum and fixed. Please help if you can. Thank you Pat
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Sounds like either PSU, MOBO or Switch.
Download Speedfan (The download link is to the right), and install it. Once it's installed, run the program and post here the information it shows.
The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.
To make sure we are getting all the correct information it would help us if you were to attach a screenshot like the one below of your Speedfan results.

To do a screenshot please have click on your Print Screen on your keyboard.
  • It is normally the key above your number pad between the F12 key and the Scroll Lock key
  • Now go to Start and then to All Programs
  • Scroll to Accessories and then click on Paint
  • In the Empty White Area click and hold the CTRL key and then click the V
  • Go to the File option at the top and click on Save as
  • Save as file type JPEG and save it to your Desktop
  • Attach it to your next reply

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Sorry this took so long I had to go to work for a few hours. I am attaching the images

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Tutorial for running chkdsk in Vista\Win 7 located HERE.




Go HERE and read the tutorial that shows how to do SFC or System File Checker and running in a Elevated Command Prompt in Vista and Win7.
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I don't have windows7 but I did a chkdsk in windowsxp. Still having the same issue.
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Was this happening while you were running windows 7?
Did the computer ever work correctly when you put XP on it?
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Sorry wrong instructions.


Go to

Start and then to Run
Type in Chkdsk /r Note the space between k and /
Click Enter ...It will probably ask if you want to do this on the next reboot...click Y
If the window doesn't shutdown on its own then reboot the system manually. On reboot the system will start the chkdsk operation
This one will take longer then chkdsk /f

Note... there are 5 stages...
It may appear to hang at a certain percent for a hour or more or even back up and go over the same area...this is normal...
DO NOT SHUT YOUR COMPUTER DOWN WHILE CHKDSK IS RUNNING OR YOU CAN HAVE SEVERE PROBLEMS
This can take several hours to complete.
When completed it will boot the system back into windows.

Reboot after your done running chkdsk /r...
then Go to Start...Run and type: eventvwr.msc press Enter
When Event Viewer opens, click on Applications... then scroll down to Winlogon]/b] and double-click on it. This is the log created after running Checkdisk...copy and paste the log back here


We will advise after studying the log.







Go Start and then to Run ("Start Search" in Vista),
Type in: sfc /scannow
Click OK (Enter in Vista).
Have Windows CD/DVD handy.
If System File Checker (sfc) finds any errors, it may ask you for the CD/DVD.
If sfc does not find any errors in Windows XP, it will simply quit, without any message.
In Vista you will receive the following message: "Windows resource protection did not find any integrity violations".

For Vista users ONLY: Navigate to C:\Windows\Logs\CBS folder. You'll see CBS.log file.
Usually, it's pretty big file, so upload it to Flyupload, and post download link.


If you don't have Windows CD....
This applies mostly to Windows XP, since Vista rarely requires use of its DVD while running "sfc"
Note This method will not necessarily work as well, as when using Windows CD, because not always ALL system files are backed up on your hard drive. Also, backed up files may be corrupted as well.

Go Start and then Run
type in regedit and click OK


Navigate to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup

You will see various entries Values on the right hand side.

The one we want is called: SourcePath

It probably has an entry pointing to your CD-ROM drive, usually D and that is why it is asking for the XP CD.
All we need to do is change it to: C:
Now, double click the SourcePatch setting and a new box will pop up.
Change the drive letter from your CD drive to your root drive, usually C:
Close Registry Editor.

Now restart your computer and try sfc /scannow again!


Thanks to Broni for the instructions



Revised and Simplified:


Do you have a valid XP CD?

If so, place it in your CD ROM drive and follow the instructions below:
  • Click on Start and select Run... type sfc /scannow (note the space) (Let this run undisturbed until the window with the blue progress bar goes away)

SFC
- Which stands for System File Checker,
retrieves the correct version of the file from %Systemroot%\System32\Dllcache or the Windows installation source files, and then replaces the incorrect file.
If you want to see what was replaced, right-click My Computer and click on Manage. In the new window that appears, expand the Event Viewer (by clicking on the + symbol next to it) and then click on [b]System
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Hi,

I am sorry to be so confusing. I currently have windows xp sp3 which came loaded on the system when purchased. I have never had window7 I just have a reinstallation disk for windows7 that came with the pc.
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My last post are the instructions for XP. :)
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I ran the chkdsk/ r. I went to the applications under event viewer I did not see Winlogon]/b] but I did see winlogon and here are the results:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Winlogon
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 5/22/2011
Time: 12:45:18 PM
User: N/A
Computer: PATMOORE
Description:
Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is OS.

A disk check has been scheduled.
Windows will now check the disk.
Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive.
Cleaning up 37 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 37 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 37 unused security descriptors.
CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
Free space verification is complete.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.

302287072 KB total disk space.
23893732 KB in 66942 files.
25720 KB in 7690 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
221768 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
278145852 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
75571768 total allocation units on disk.
69536463 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
e0 b1 01 00 93 23 01 00 05 9a 01 00 00 00 00 00 .....#..........
73 20 00 00 08 00 00 00 8e 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 s ..............
5a 70 29 07 00 00 00 00 6c ff 68 30 00 00 00 00 Zp).....l.h0....
fa 1c e3 0a 00 00 00 00 72 22 fe a2 01 00 00 00 ........r"......
e0 ad 0f 88 07 00 00 00 2e e6 e9 75 09 00 00 00 ...........u....
99 9e 36 00 00 00 00 00 90 38 07 00 7e 05 01 00 ..6......8..~...
00 00 00 00 00 90 5b b2 05 00 00 00 0a 1e 00 00 ......[.........

Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts.


For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft....ink/events.asp.

I ran the scf and under system information it says:
Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64017
Date: 5/22/2011
Time: 2:39:17 PM
User: N/A
Computer: PATMOORE
Description:
Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft....ink/events.asp.
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Have you run the SFC yet and if so did it ask for OS disk?

  • Please download the Event Viewer Tool by Vino Rosso VEW and save it to your Desktop:
  • Double-click VEW.exe
  • Under 'Select log to query', select (as appropriate):
    • Application
    • System
  • Under 'Select type to list', select (as appropriate):
    • Error
    • Information
    • Warning
Then use the 'Date of events' or 'Number of events' as follows:

Either:
  • Click the radio button for 'Number of events'
    Type 3 in the 1 to 20 box (or any number from 1 to 20)
    Then click the Run button.
    Notepad will open with the output log.

  • Click the radio button for 'Date of events'
    In the From: boxes type today's date (presuming the crash happened today) 21 05 2011
    In the To: boxes type today's date (presuming the crash happened today) 22 05 2011
    Then click the Run button.
    Notepad will open with the output log.
Please post the Output log in your next reply
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Hi thanks for your help

I ran the scf and under system information it says:
Event Type: Information
Event Source: Windows File Protection
Event Category: None
Event ID: 64017
Date: 5/22/2011
Time: 2:39:17 PM
User: N/A
Computer: PATMOORE
Description:
Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft....ink/events.asp.


I am attaching the file.Attached File  VEW.txt   177.98KB   179 downloads

Thank you again.
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Still having issues with starting the system now that chkdsk and sfc have been run?
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Yes, the last reboot the screen was black probably for about 45 minutes and then windows came up I am not sure if this is because I typed the scf command twice before rebooting the last time.
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Nope you obviously have a OS issue.
Time for a Repair Installation I'm afraid. Do you have a genuine XP installation disk for your system?
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