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Hard drive not found on wiped drive


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allanjs

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Hi all, I'm new here and of course have a problem. I purchased 2 Dell Optiplex GX270 computers from a local
University. Both have had the hard drive wiped using Disk Deleter I believe. Neither computer will find the
hard drive, floppy drive or cd drive. I want to load XP. I downloaded a program on to a flash drive and both computers will boot to the flash drive in DOS mode. They then show the flash drive as drive C. What do I need
to do from here ? Would replacing the hard drives be the best option ?
Thanks
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Hi and welcome to GeekstoGo

Have you checked that the HDD is connected by both power and data leads.
Have you check in BIOS if the drives are shown.
See this link and follow the advice for entering setup.
Floppy may have been disbaled in BIOS
http://support.dell....eat.htm#1128164
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Thanks for the replay.

The HDD is recognized in BIOS as primary master drive. The jumper on the drive is set to cable select.
Under boot sequence for the CD-ROM says "not installed".
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Does the one cable connect both the HDD and the CD from the motherboard
ie: a cable with two connectors as shown

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As the HDD is jumpered cable slect I may presume it does.

OR does the HDD and the CD drive each have their own cable.
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Each have their own cable. HDD is connected to IDE1. CD-ROM is connected to IDE2.
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Go to the BIOS setup. see the link I sent you and check the settings.
These are the relevant details
Drive Configuration
  • Diskette Drive A — Identifies the floppy drive attached to the DSKT connector on the system board. With the standard cabling configuration, Diskette Drive A (the boot floppy drive) is the 3.5-inch floppy drive installed in the top externally accessible drive bay. The two options are 3.5 Inch, 1.44 MB and Not Installed.
Tape drives are not reflected in the Diskette Drive A option. For example, if a single floppy drive and a tape drive are attached to the floppy drive interface cable, set Diskette Drive A to 3.5 Inch, 1.44 MB.

  • SATA Primary Drive — Identifies the serial ATA hard drive attached to the SATA1 connector on the system board.
  • SATA Secondary Drive — Identifies the serial ATA hard drive attached to the SATA2 connector on the system board (not available on the small form-factor or small desktop computers).
  • Primary Drive 0 — Identifies the IDE hard drive attached to the IDE1 connector on the system board.
  • Primary Drive 1 — Identifies the IDE device attached to the IDE2 connector on the system board.
  • Secondary Drive 0 — Identifies the device that is cabled with the drive on the IDE1 data cable.
  • Secondary Drive 1 — Identifies the device that is cabled with the device on the IDE2 data cable.
  • IDE Drive UDMA — Sets the mode for all installed hard drives.
<a name="1135808">NOTE: You must have an IDE device connected to the primary IDE interface if you have an IDE device connected to the secondary IDE interface.





When you set diskette drive - floppy enabled. I t should then appear in the boot device

Look at primary drive 1 that should be the CD connected to IDE2.

The fact it may not at this stage work, does not stop it being Identified in the BIOS.
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Then make this and it should boot to dos, enabling you to then check the drive - format it, create a primary dos partition and see where we go from there.
http://www.onecomput...e/win98_img.exe
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OK. I can now boot to DOS from the floppy drive A. Typed dir c: and I get invalid drive.
Whats next ? It's been quite awhile since I used DOS.
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I went through the system setup and reset to factory defaults. The computer then automatically ran
IDE configuration. That program returned:

Primary Master - Disk Drive
Secondary Master - CD-Rom.


In system setup under Drive Configuration the entries are as follows. Some of the terminolgy used is
slightly different than what the Dell info states.

SATA Primary Drive.......OFF
SATA Secondary Drive.....OFF
Primary Master Drive.....Hard Drive
Primary Slave Drive......OFF
Secondary Master Drive...CD-ROM Device
Secondary Slave Drive....OFF
IDE Drive UDMA...........On

Hard-Disk Drive Sequence
1. System BIOS boot devices
2. USB device (not installed)

Boot Sequence
1. Diskette Drive
2. Hard-Disk C:
3. IDE CD-ROM device

I can boot to DOS via the floppy drive but the C: drive is not yet recognized.
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Boot from that floppy it will load a ramdrive this is normally the letter immediately following the hard drive.
So if the ram drive loads in D. The CD will be E and the HDD as you say will be C.

Usually with one floppy drive, allocated A. B is reserved for another floppy and C is the HDD.
On that system you have I can see no reason for C not being the HDD

When you have that boot at the command prompt type
C:
What is the message displayed.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 19 June 2011 - 12:40 PM.

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The CD drive spins up but won't boot. I get F1 to retry boot F2 for setup.
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Where does the CD drive enter into the equation of booting from the floppy with the 98 boot disk
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"Where does the CD drive enter into the equation of booting from the floppy with the 98 boot disk"

Your previous post, that apparently you edited, stated to turn off the UDMA, set the CD as
first boot device.

Anyway, I'm booted to DOS on the floppy, I type C: and get Invalid drive specification.
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"Where does the CD drive enter into the equation of booting from the floppy with the 98 boot disk"

Your previous post, that apparently you edited, stated to turn off the UDMA, set the CD as
first boot device.

Anyway, I'm booted to DOS on the floppy, I type C: and get Invalid drive specification.
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"Where does the CD drive enter into the equation of booting from the floppy with the 98 boot disk"

Your previous post, that apparently you edited, stated to turn off the UDMA, set the CD as
first boot device.

Anyway, I'm booted to DOS on the floppy, I type C: and get Invalid drive specification.
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