This would have been enough to push the +1 like, if you would have ended here...
With little effort, we can find reports where Firefox is the most secure and the same for Safari, or probably just about any browser you can find. And they are all right - no browser is perfect!
It just proves it does not matter which browser you use, or which version of Windows. You, STILL have to practice safe computing! You still have to use the latest browser your OS supports, you must keep Windows updated, your firewall up, and your anti-malware solution running, and don't be click happy.
We, as advisors, cannot tell someone to buy a Honda because we don't like Nissan!
You say you don't like the testing methodology - you are not alone. But note EVERY "loser" of any study will find fault in the study. So you need to see who lines up where, and what may influence their decision.
Not at all, you had to drag it out of me. I wrote what I wrote, and that was clearly about zdnet in general, and not about Ed Bott in particular.
Are you saying Ed Bott is wrong too? Just because Ed Bott now writes for ZDNet, that does not mean he is going to pull any punches. He praises when due too, and Microsoft puts out good software - especially in the last couple years. I agree there have been some questionable calls out of some writers at ZDNet - I challenged their review of MailWasher. I challenged PCWorld's MS bashing headlines too. Do you want reports and sites that only report what you agree with?
That said, I will not use terms of wrong or right either. Those would indicate facts, and I am only in the position to question facts, not to publish them.
Your Bright objections, wherever I saw them at least, are deeply respected and supported, by many.
It serves Microsoft no purpose to be associated with an organization that would "fix" the testing in some way. Microsoft's business practices are under too much constant scrutiny by Congress, the EU, bloggers, IT press and bashers to even think about it.
***BUSTED***Who said anything about "fixed"???
So.... ....Please tell me, Mr. Bright, what do you know about MS "fixing" tests -as an MVP- that I don't ???
just kidding here, couldn't resist.
I am referring to "struggling with security settings" resulting in "being vulnerable." An unsafe (your words) browser used with safe practicing is still not going to be likely to get infected in the first place.
Telling people our opinions is fine, but we have to be objective first, if our advice is to be sound.
Just remember, if Windows and IE were unsafe at their default settings, there would be 100s of millions of infected machines out there. And there just isn't.
I am not talking numbers of people infected, which more often is a result of wrong usage a/o poor maintenance than the wrong vehicle, like you said yourself as well. (most used = probly most infected sooner or later anywyas)
I am very sorry, but then you should have named this topic "IE 9 - Better then ever" or something. YOU are comparing to un-named others. This cancels the +1 I was going to give you, as if you needed it!
My whole point in starting this thread was to draw out and expose these deep long-seated biases against Internet Explorer (and perhaps MS) as what they are - unfounded.
Also - there a good reason the alternatives are gaining in Europe and Asian countries - there, you can buy Windows 7 without a browser. That said, this thread is not about browser popularity.
The fact that Win7 is also sold without IE (why is that in the first place / other story ) is new to me, and is HIGHLY interresting. I take it that MS / Windows-update no longer must use IE to work?
Man, I need a new system that I can 'play with' (read as -mess up and fix again-) to keep up here... Serioulsy.
But I am glad we came to a balanced agreement.
You prefer IE, I prefer Chrome, DonnaB prefers FF, and we all seem to stay reasonably safe, even when researching malware (requires some extra layers for us all anyways) and following up on those nasty spam links I come across, even here at GeeksToGo!tm... I learned a lot from our little discussion, not at the very least that I should recommend further education rather than a single browser / security-system -talk. What a nice thread this has been
As stated before, thank you for sharing !!!
Note: Could I ask you to answer my question here?
Edited by Amst3rDamag3, 27 August 2011 - 08:41 AM.