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First Build. (budget $1300.00 - $1500.00)


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shadowbeing98

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Hello,

I was wondering if you guys/gals could help me build my first computer with a budget of $1300.00-$1500.00. This will be a gaming/Architectural computer.

Requirements:( Applicable to change by your Views)
1. I would like a cases that has a view and has led lights.
2. 1000 watts at least or more.
3. water cooled motherboard if you could.
4. room for expansion
5. 8gb ddr3 ram sticks or more if possible.
6. 1TB memory or more.
7. I will be using two monitors (if possible)
8. Windows 7 Home premium or the standard.
9. Definitely need something to play skyrim xP
10. Wireless Connectivity(no usb type)
I will edit this when i get some feedback....

CPU/ Processor:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115071
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128423
Ram:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231402
Os:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116992
Power supply:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182067
Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148633
Card Reader:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820176021
Wireless Adapter:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833106062
CD Drive:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151232
Video Card:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130593

Total For these Items above:



If you could help me out i would gladly appreciate it.

Thanks to everyone that reply's. ^^

Ohs if you think i should just go with this (http://www.newegg.co...N82E16883229267) then, I am sorry for wasting your time. It's already made but not bad of a computer to my eyes *no experience in computers* Thanks.

Edited by shadowbeing98, 09 October 2011 - 08:00 AM.

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Adam Thomas Lutton

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dont go with that combo, it seems there isnt enough power supply for some of the psu they are using. And people are complaining of overheating issues even with a water cooling setup. If you do get it, make sure you by a better heatsink for the processor.
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dont go with that combo, it seems there isnt enough power supply for some of the psu they are using. And people are complaining of overheating issues even with a water cooling setup. If you do get it, make sure you by a better heatsink for the processor.


Wells, I am trying to get some answers on how to improve what i chose. overheating would be a problem, but it happens. Thanks for the insight tho^^
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Hi shadowbeing98 and :)
Tutorials to assist you courtesy of Troy/Artellos http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/208831-how-to-build-your-own-computer/ and Digerati respectively http://www.geekstogo...rface-material/

Please take this as guidance and not criticism as I go through the requirements that you have stated;

Requirements:( Applicable to change by your Views)
1. I would like a cases that has a view and has led lights. Your proposed case appears rather expensive.
2. 1000 watts at least or more. Why do you feel that you need so much output and a PSU illuminated like a disco.
3. water cooled motherboard if you could. Unnecessary for a correctly cooled case + it will invalidate your CPU warranty*
4. room for expansion. Sensible approach.
5. 8gb ddr3 ram sticks or more if possible. Required for 64-bit Windows 7.
6. 1TB memory or more. Consider two smaller HDDs, one with your OS and data on it and one for data and backing up to.
7. I will be using two monitors (if possible) Not a problem for most good, modern GFX cards.
8. Windows 7 Home premium or the standard. As with the Ram to get the max benefit of the proposed 8GB choose W7 64-bit
9. Definitely need something to play skyrim xP We can make sure of this.
10. Wireless Connectivity(no usb type) No worries with this.

NB: You have not included a CPU/processor on your list so it will also be omitted from your budget, also you have CPU/Case on your list! A case is a case and nothing to do with a CPU which is the Central Processing Unit more commonly referred to as the CPU or processor.
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it seems there isnt enough power supply for some of the psu they are using

Huh? While that graphics card is power hungry, a 1000w supply is almost overkill. The recommended minimum, as seen in that Newegg link, is "550-watt power supply with a minimum of 38 amps on the +12 volt rail".

@shadowbeing - you have a 32-bit OS listed. To utilize more than 4Gb, you must use a 64-bit OS.

I don't see a CPU listed.

As noted, 1000w is more than you need. There is no danger to having that big of a PSU - except to your budget. A good 750W is probably a better fit - however, you should not pick a PSU until you have selected all your other components, and determined their needs (taking into account possible additions or upgrades over the next couple years).

Also note that both Intel and AMD warranties are very clear - using aftermarket, 3rd party coolers on their CPUs violates the terms of their warranties. If you don't care, that's fine, but you need to be aware of it.

Besides the warranty issue, I don't recommend water cooling. There are too many disadvantages. Motherboard designers intentionally place other heat sensitive and heat generating devices around the CPU socket to take advantage of the OEM HSF's air movement. Too many alternative cooling implementers fail to address that when removing the OEM fan assembly. Also, once the novelty and newness wear off, too many users start to neglect the required extra maintenance water cooling systems when this extra maintenance is needed most; when the system ages.

Neither Intel or AMD want to replace their CPUs due to heat issues during the warranty period so they provide excellent OEM HSF assemblies to are also warrantied for 3 years. Most aftermarket cooling solutions are warrantied for just 1 year, or less. And NO aftermarket cooler maker will cover CPU replacement if their product fails to protect the CPU.

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Well, now that I typed all of the above, I see phillpower beat me to it! But that's fine as it reiterates the points.
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Okay, Thanks for the insight^^, I took the power supply down, change the OS to 64-bit, and added a processor. I just notice the wattage for the graphics card after you guys said that. Just thought it'd take more then the one i bought for my other computer.

Is there anything i should change? I know about the water cooled problems now also, after you guys said that i looked online, for a more detailed explanation, and now i don't want it....lol. If you guys could help me some more, even choose what i should get I would gladly appreciate it.
that's why i came here, before i bought my computer. I will have the money by Thursday and i will be ordering parts same day. If there is anything else, like i was saying, please post what you think i would need to make this computer.
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I chose that cases because i want an LED one with expansion for the future. also I will be getting two of the graphics cards next time i have the money which is like January of next year.
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I chose that cases because i want an LED

Oh? I don't see one listed. As for LEDs, that's fine but for me, I personally don't like cases that draw attention to themselves as I tend to pay attention to what's on my monitors. I want my case to sit quietly, and discreetly off to the side. And I will never buy a case that does not have a removable, washable air filter.

Also, that CPU will not work. Note it uses a LGA 1155 socket but the motherboard has a LGA 1366. Note all of the better motherboard makers maintain QVLs - qualified vendor lists - for CPUs and RAM their motherboards support. You MUST buy a CPU from the list. There are too many RAM makers and RAM models to test them all so you don't have to buy from the list, but you MUST buy RAM with the same specs as RAM on the list. See your QVLs here.
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Some suggestions for you to consider
Case $159.99 + $9.99 shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129100
MB and CPU combo $351.98
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.738715
Ram $51.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231428
GPU $319.99 $7.65 + shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130613
PSU $163.99 + $5.99 shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139011
Windows 7 64-bit $99.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116986
Components Total $1147.93 Shipping Total $23.63(This will vary)
Overall Total $1171.56 + the costs of the HDD, Optical drive, Card reader and Network card that you have already chosen.

For checking CPU, Ram, SSD, and HDD compatibility for the suggested MB click the support tab and then the Test or Support tab http://uk.msi.com/pr...?div=TestReport

NB: Do not forget to budget for some TIM such as Arctic silver 5.
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Some suggestions for you to consider
Case $159.99 + $9.99 shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129100
MB and CPU combo $351.98
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.738715
Ram $51.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231428
GPU $319.99 $7.65 + shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130613
PSU $163.99 + $5.99 shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139011
Windows 7 64-bit $99.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116986
Components Total $1147.93 Shipping Total $23.63(This will vary)
Overall Total $1171.56 + the costs of the HDD, Optical drive, Card reader and Network card that you have already chosen.

For checking CPU, Ram, SSD, and HDD compatibility for the suggested MB click the support tab and then the Test or Support tab http://uk.msi.com/pr...?div=TestReport

NB: Do not forget to budget for some TIM such as Arctic silver 5.



I like it xP, Hmmms what is Arctic silver for? lol sorry no computer knowledge at all...i am going to college for it next year so i will have knowledge then.
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Hmmms what is Arctic silver for?

See my link in phillpower's first post above.
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I see you plan on ordering the parts Thursday (tomorrow?). I would recommend waiting a week or two just to make sure all the parts you have are what you want. I know it is hard to wait when you are anticipating buying something but it is definitely worth it in the long run. There is nothing worse than buying a computer and a week later you see that you should have gotten part xxx instead of yyy.

Also, make sure you can turn the LED's off on your case, I know it seems like something you want to have, but if you are watching a movie, or you are downloading something while trying to sleep (assuming your computer is in the same room as your bed) it can be extremely distracting to have those blaring LED's lighting up the walls.
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Okay, Thanks for the insight^^, I took the power supply down, change the OS to 64-bit, and added a processor. I just notice the wattage for the graphics card after you guys said that. Just thought it'd take more then the one i bought for my other computer.

Is there anything i should change? I know about the water cooled problems now also, after you guys said that i looked online, for a more detailed explanation, and now i don't want it....lol. If you guys could help me some more, even choose what i should get I would gladly appreciate it.
that's why i came here, before i bought my computer. I will have the money by Thursday and i will be ordering parts same day. If there is anything else, like i was saying, please post what you think i would need to make this computer.



I see you plan on ordering the parts Thursday (tomorrow?). I would recommend waiting a week or two just to make sure all the parts you have are what you want. I know it is hard to wait when you are anticipating buying something but it is definitely worth it in the long run. There is nothing worse than buying a computer and a week later you see that you should have gotten part xxx instead of yyy.

Also, make sure you can turn the LED's off on your case, I know it seems like something you want to have, but if you are watching a movie, or you are downloading something while trying to sleep (assuming your computer is in the same room as your bed) it can be extremely distracting to have those blaring LED's lighting up the walls.


@ corbek please note the date of the OP and the last post of Digerati regarding Arctic Silver.
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