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[First Build] A Christmas gift, to my self. (Seeking advice/opinions)


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Oh hai thar.

I am an infant in the face of technology. I have a 'rough idea' what things like mother's boards and Ramses, giga beets and intel insiders do.

Below is the hardware that I currently intend to buy during Christmas, it will be for the assemblage of my first custom computer.
If you think I can get something better for a similar price, please let me know.
If I should get rid of something or I'm missing something entirely, I'd also be grateful to know about that too.

My Shopping list!

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit = Free - Gifted by friend.

Case: Fractal Design Define XL Black Pearl ATX Full Tower = $216.00 AUD

Power Supply: Corsair HX-1050 80 PLUS Silver = $265.00 AUD

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K = $229.00 AUD

CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 = $25.00 AUD

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 = $135.00 AUD

RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B DDR3 (2x4GB) = $75.00 AUD

Graphics Card: MSI GeForce GTX 580 3GB Lightning Extreme Edition OC (x2) = $699.00 AUD each, $1398.00 AUD total

Solid-state Drive: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB = $199.00 AUD

Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B3LT 24X DVDRW LightScribe = $29.00 AUD

Keyboard: Steelseries 6G V2 Mechanical = $95.00 AUD

Mouse: Razer Naga Special Molten Edition = Free - Gifted by friend.

Headphones: Plantronics Gamecom 777 Surround Sound 7.1 = $69.00 AUD

Monitor: Acer V243HLBD 24in Widescreen (x2) = $165.00 AUD each, $330.00 AUD total

DVI Dual Link Male-Male Cable 10m = $29.00 AUD

Webcam: Logitech C510 HD = $49.00 AUD

Desk between 90-100 CM = Unknown

Total, with postage = $3225.00 AUD

The build is based primarily around the benchmark of 60 FPS+/maximum settings/No lagging, glitching or freezing at a 16:9 1920x1080 resolution on the game Metro 2033 and Battlefield 3. I want to reach this at the cheapest possible price. Australian based, so no amazom/newegg/internationally unavailable sites.

Currently purchasing all my hardware from pccasegear.com

A penny for your thoughts?

Edited by TheEigengrau, 14 November 2011 - 01:02 PM.

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Hi TheEigengrau and :)
Just a bit of guidance for you first of all 1: Read the tutorial courtesy of Troy and Artellos respectively http://www.geekstogo...r-own-computer/ and 2: understanding the importance of applying TIM (thermal interface material) correctly, tutorial courtesy of Digerati http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/292223-thermal-interface-material/ now a look at your proposed components;

Case and Power Supply: Antec Sonata III with 500-Watt power supply = $119.35 USD Do not purchase a case with a PSU already fitted unless the PSU will support both the intended present build and allow for future upgrades, decide on all the hardware and then use a PSU calculator to make sure you will have enough clean and stable power with at least an 80% efficiency rating, this is the reason why the PSU is always the last piece of hardware to be chosen http://www2.corsair.com/psufinder/
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz = $217.59 USD Once you have chosen your MB go to the MB manufacturers homepage and check the QVL (qualified vendors list) this will tell the CPUs that the MB will support.
Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD65(B3) LGA 1155 = $159.99 USD
RAM: x4 - 2GB, Ballistix 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-12800 memory module = $25.99 USD each. Also refer to the MB QVL first
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Superclocked 1GB DDR5 = $199.99 USD Add on cards can be power hungry and heavily influence the required output of the PSU.
Sound Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI Express Sound Card = $84.46 USD Todays quality MBs already have excellent onboard audio, do you really need this, could you benefit from spending the cash elsewhere, an SSD for faster boot times for instance http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227393 (example only)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 7200rpm SATA 3 = $149.99 USD 2TB is a lot of data to lose should the HDD fail, consider a smaller HDD and a means of backing important data up, a second HDD or an external HDD for example.

P.S: I already have an OS, keyboard/mouse, monitor, and even an optical drive in case you were wondering

Just a cautionary note, unless your OS disk is the full retail edition you cannot use it with a new MB as an OEM disk is tied to the original MB it was paired with, to use an OEM disk with a new MB is software piracy and therefore illegal.
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A WARNING.

There is a world wide shortage of HDDs and prices are climbing through the roof. If you want a build for Christmas I advise you source a HDD now and purchase it..
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Hi TheEigengrau and :)
Just a bit of guidance for you first of all 1: Read the tutorial courtesy of Troy and Artellos respectively http://www.geekstogo...r-own-computer/ and 2: understanding the importance of applying TIM (thermal interface material) correctly, tutorial courtesy of Digerati http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/292223-thermal-interface-material/ now a look at your proposed components;

Case and Power Supply: Antec Sonata III with 500-Watt power supply = $119.35 USD Do not purchase a case with a PSU already fitted unless the PSU will support both the intended present build and allow for future upgrades, decide on all the hardware and then use a PSU calculator to make sure you will have enough clean and stable power with at least an 80% efficiency rating, this is the reason why the PSU is always the last piece of hardware to be chosen http://www2.corsair.com/psufinder/
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz = $217.59 USD Once you have chosen your MB go to the MB manufacturers homepage and check the QVL (qualified vendors list) this will tell the CPUs that the MB will support.
Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD65(B3) LGA 1155 = $159.99 USD
RAM: x4 - 2GB, Ballistix 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-12800 memory module = $25.99 USD each. Also refer to the MB QVL first
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Superclocked 1GB DDR5 = $199.99 USD Add on cards can be power hungry and heavily influence the required output of the PSU.
Sound Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI Express Sound Card = $84.46 USD Todays quality MBs already have excellent onboard audio, do you really need this, could you benefit from spending the cash elsewhere, an SSD for faster boot times for instance http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227393 (example only)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 7200rpm SATA 3 = $149.99 USD 2TB is a lot of data to lose should the HDD fail, consider a smaller HDD and a means of backing important data up, a second HDD or an external HDD for example.

P.S: I already have an OS, keyboard/mouse, monitor, and even an optical drive in case you were wondering

Just a cautionary note, unless your OS disk is the full retail edition you cannot use it with a new MB as an OEM disk is tied to the original MB it was paired with, to use an OEM disk with a new MB is software piracy and therefore illegal.


Thank you for the information! It's been very helpful.
The motherboard is compatible with the RAM and Processor. Or the other way around.
I've removed the sound card, and will be going with an SSD, the OCZ VTX3-25SAT3-60G Vertex 3 Series 2.5" 60GB MLC SDD = $139.26 AUD you suggested. (Useful little thing, surprised I didn't notice it before. Is there anything else like that, that I may have missed?)
I had a look at the PSU-thingy-majig, and it advised me to go with a 550 or 650 giga-watts. Which I will be doing. Corsair TX 650W ATX Power Supply PSU SLI Certified = 158.9 AUD
I have a secondary hard drive to store things on, and there's no way I'll store 2TB of stuff, so I've gone with the Western Digital 1TB 3.5" SATA III 3 64MB = AU $104.50

Now I have to ask, what would be a good case to go for? I'm after efficiency over appearance. Would a tall tower be ideal with its room aplenty to put bobs and bits in, easier to maneuver around inside of and such? Or is compact preferred for its... compactness? Are there different materials for casing that might make assembling it or long use easier, or some such?

A WARNING.

There is a world wide shortage of HDDs and prices are climbing through the roof. If you want a build for Christmas I advise you source a HDD now and purchase it..


How is there a world wide shortage of HDDs?
And don't you think that come Christmas time they'll at least be on some kind of half-price special?
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Case suggestion http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129177 or something similar just make sure that whatever you purchase has removable and washable filters.
In answer to your question regarding a HDD shortage http://www.geekstogo...hortage-coming/ courtesy of RKinner :)
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Case suggestion http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129177 or something similar just make sure that whatever you purchase has removable and washable filters.
In answer to your question regarding a HDD shortage http://www.geekstogo...hortage-coming/ courtesy of RKinner :)


Ah, alright. Good to know.

That's a nice case, but since ebay doesn't have it (which is where I'm acquiring everything because amazon doesn't ship to Australia) I won't be able to get it. Also, that's a pretty expensive case, and I'm going to assume that for what I'm after in a case, I won't need to spend that much.

Are any of these eligible?
http://www.ebay.com....=item2eb8f14180
http://www.ebay.com....=item4ab0779f9d
http://www.ebay.com....=item484150627c

If they both are, any particular one you recommend? It's really hard for me to tell. One mentions washable air filters, but not removable. If it's washable, does that mean it will be removable?
Is there any particular brand I should be going for? A set of features to look out for?
I've 'heard' that Cooler Master has the best cases, is there any merit to that rumour?

Thank you again for the help!

Edited by TheEigengrau, 08 November 2011 - 04:45 PM.

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This case http://www.ebay.com....id=281975447549

I've 'heard' that Cooler Master has the best cases, is there any merit to that rumour?

To some they may be but not to all, you will often read people asking what is better Intel or AMD, Nvidea or ATI, the truth is it is your own preference and as long as the component has all the features you like and is of good quality then you have grounds to be happy.
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This case http://www.ebay.com....id=281975447549

I've 'heard' that Cooler Master has the best cases, is there any merit to that rumour?

To some they may be but not to all, you will often read people asking what is better Intel or AMD, Nvidea or ATI, the truth is it is your own preference and as long as the component has all the features you like and is of good quality then you have grounds to be happy.


Excellent, you picked the one I favourited.

Thank you for all of the advice! I think that's just about it now. All I have to do is figure out this TIM thing, wait until Christmas specials to buy all the parts at a mall or over ebay, and then cry endless tears as I attempt to construct what will undoubtedly become a dangerous explosive and kill me. I'll take pics.
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You are more welcome :)
Let us know when you are up and running or if we can help in any way and thank you for allowing me to assist you.
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You are more welcome :)
Let us know when you are up and running or if we can help in any way and thank you for allowing me to assist you.


I do actually have another question.
I was talking to a computerally incline friend of mine, and he suggested I upgrade from the gtx 560 to the gtx 560 Ti, and discard the SSD because it won't make any noticeable difference. What do you think?
Decided to discard the 1tb HDD and use my 500Gig HDD for storing programs/etc on, and will put the OS and run programs on the SDD. Good idea?

Edited by TheEigengrau, 08 November 2011 - 07:06 PM.

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For searching and comparing prices in OZ, this is the one I use,

http://www.staticice...u/advanced.html

SSD info. http://www.hardware-...-november-2011/
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For searching and comparing prices in OZ, this is the one I use,

http://www.staticice...u/advanced.html

SSD info. http://www.hardware-...-november-2011/


Ooo, thank you for that!

I have updated my shopping list.

EDIT:

[My Computer]
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 (3.5g) = $9.00 AUD
Case: Corsair Obsidian 650D = $209.00 AUD
PSU: Corsair HX-650 = $139.00 AUD
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K = $229.00 AUD
CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO = $39.00 AUD
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth P67 B3 = $235.00 AUD
RAM: Corsair CMP4GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 = $118.00 AUD
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB = $279.00 AUD
Solid-state Drive: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB = $199.00 AUD
Optical Drive: Sony AD7740H01 SATA Slim Black Internal = $45.00 AUD

[Other stuff]
Keyboard: Steelseries 6G V2 = $95.00 AUD
Monitor: Acer V243HLBD 24in Widescreen (x2) = $165.00 AUD each, $330.00 total AUD

Total, with postage: $2039.00 AUD


Edited by TheEigengrau, 09 November 2011 - 01:57 AM.

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I have updated my shopping list.


To save any confusion, Please post your new shopping list in your next post.
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For searching and comparing prices in OZ, this is the one I use,

http://www.staticice...u/advanced.html

SSD info. http://www.hardware-...-november-2011/


http://www.staticice.com.au/advanced.html

Great link iammyky, the only PC retailer that I know of that covers Aus, NZ, UK and the US :)
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I have revised my shopping list again.
I am almost certain everything is compatible, and that everything will be kept cool enough, and that I'm not missing anything; if you think otherwise, please let me know.

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit = Free - Gifted by friend.
Case: CoolerMaster HAF X = $209.00 AUD
PSU: Silverstone Strider 1500W ST1500 = $325.00 AUD
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K = $229.00 AUD
CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO = $39.00 AUD
MB: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Motherboard = $135.00 AUD
RAM: Corsair CMP4GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 = $118.00 AUD
GPU: ASUS ROG Matrix GeForce GTX 580 Platinum 1536MB (x2) = $659.00 AUD each, $1318.00 AUD total
SSD: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB = $199.00 AUD
OD: Lite-On IHAS324 24x DVDRW = $25.00 AUD
Keyboard: Steelseries 6G V2 = $95.00 AUD
Mouse: Razer Naga = Free - Gifted by friend.
Headphones: Plantronics Gamecom 777 Surround Sound 7.1 Gaming Headset USB = $69.00 AUD
Monitor: Acer V243HLBD 24in Widescreen (x2) = $165.00 AUD each, $330.00 AUD total
DVI Dual Link Male-Male Cable 10m = $29.00 AUD
Webcam: Logitech C510 HD = $49.00 AUD
Desk between 90-100 CM = Unknown

Total, with postage = $3290.00 AUD


Edited by TheEigengrau, 13 November 2011 - 02:51 AM.

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