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[First Build] A Christmas gift, to my self. (Seeking advice/opinions)


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CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO = $39.00 AUD

Just a cautionary note, if you use anything other than the stock heatsink and CPU fan supplied with the processor you will void your CPU warranty, both AMD and Intel are clear on this;
AMD

This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith.

Full article @ http://support.amd.c...earLimited.aspx
Intel

• damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical
power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance
with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing

Full article @ http://www.intel.com...b/CS-009862.htm
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That looks like a great build.

Check to make sure you will have enough SATA DATA cables.

Good luck with the build. Please let us know how it performs as others may want to copy it.
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I feel like an idiot for having not noticed there's a page two now.

@phill Thanks for that, very good to know. Unfortunately, I haven't heard good things about standard coolers, so I think I'll be sticking with that EVO cooler. I'm going to test all of the parts outside of the case first, one by one. If the CPU appears to work fine, then I'll apply the cooler. I think that's the safest I can be.

@iammykyl I imagine that all of this modern hardware comes with the required amount of SATA DATA cables. What's the easiest way to check and determine this?


The shopping list is, at least I believe, set in stone now. (Nevermind, five minutes later and I'm reconsidering the whole [bleep] thing. Sigh. Will continue to update.) The struggle for me has been to figure out exactly what I'm after from my PC, and now I have it. The metro 2033 and Battlefield 3 benchmark of 60+ FPS with sync on max settings, no lag/freezing/etc.

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit = Free - Gifted by friend.

Case: CoolerMaster HAF X = $209.00 AUD

PSU: Silverstone Strider Plus 1000W ST1000-PLUS = $209.00 AUD

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K = $229.00 AUD

CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO = $39.00 AUD

MB: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Motherboard = $135.00 AUD

RAM: Corsair CMP4GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 = $118.00 AUD

GPU: ASUS ROG Matrix GeForce GTX 580 Platinum 1536MB (x2) = $659.00 AUD each, $1318.00 AUD total

SSD: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB = $199.00 AUD

OD: Lite-On IHAS324 24x DVDRW = $25.00 AUD

Keyboard: Steelseries 6G V2 = $95.00 AUD

Mouse: Razer Naga = Free - Gifted by friend.

Headphones: Plantronics Gamecom 777 Surround Sound 7.1 Gaming Headset USB = $69.00 AUD

Monitor: Acer V243HLBD 24in Widescreen (x2) = $165.00 AUD each, $330.00 AUD total

DVI Dual Link Male-Male Cable 10m = $29.00 AUD

Webcam: Logitech C510 HD = $49.00 AUD

Desk between 90-100 CM = Unknown

Total, with postage = $3174.00 AUD


Edited by TheEigengrau, 13 November 2011 - 03:08 PM.

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I imagine that all of this modern hardware comes with the required amount of SATA DATA cables


When parts are sold as "bare drives or OEM" you get the part and mounting screws, maybe a manual.

Some Mobos come with 4 or more SATA cables, your selected has 2.

You have.
1 SSD.
1 DVD.
If you are installing the 500GB internally, 1 more cable needed. If you think you may install another HDD, or a Blu-Ray drive in the near future, I would order 2 cables.
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I should have enough, especially since I can most likely use the cables my current computer has. And I'm pretty sure none of my stuff is OEM.
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OK.

Now don't forget us as we always like to hear how things turn out.
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I won't!
I'll take pictures of all the important moments, then make a [Build Complete] topic and celebrate. :)


Another update. Lots of new things. New case, PSU, CPU Cooler, RAM, and Graphics Card (I didn't want to get the 'lightning extreme edition' but that was the only 3GB MSI GPU they had.)

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit = Free - Gifted by friend.

Case: Fractal Design Define XL Black Pearl ATX Full Tower = $216.00 AUD

Power Supply: Corsair HX-1050 80 PLUS Silver = $265.00 AUD

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K = $229.00 AUD

CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 = $25.00 AUD

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 = $135.00 AUD

RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B DDR3 (2x4GB) = $75.00 AUD

Graphics Card: MSI GeForce GTX 580 3GB Lightning Extreme Edition OC (x2) = $699.00 AUD each, $1398.00 AUD total

Solid-state Drive: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB = $199.00 AUD

Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B3LT 24X DVDRW LightScribe = $29.00 AUD

Keyboard: Steelseries 6G V2 Mechanical = $95.00 AUD

Mouse: Razer Naga Special Molten Edition = Free - Gifted by friend.

Headphones: Plantronics Gamecom 777 Surround Sound 7.1 = $69.00 AUD

Monitor: Acer V243HLBD 24in Widescreen (x2) = $165.00 AUD each, $330.00 AUD total

DVI Dual Link Male-Male Cable 10m = $29.00 AUD

Webcam: Logitech C510 HD = $49.00 AUD

Desk between 90-100 CM = Unknown

Total, with postage = $3225.00 AUD


Edited by TheEigengrau, 14 November 2011 - 01:00 PM.

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Another update. I didn't know that resolution was a big decider on what GPU you should have. With a single GTX 580 3G I should be able to play even the most system demanding games on max settings on a 1920x1050 resolution, even the infamous Metro 2033.

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit = Free - Gifted by friend.

Case: Fractal Design Define XL Black = $216.00 AUD

Power Supply: Corsair TX-750 V2 Power Supply = $145.00 AUD

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K = $229.00 AUD

CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 = $25.00 AUD

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Motherboard = $135.00 AUD

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 = $55.00 AUD

Graphics Card: MSI GeForce GTX 580 3GB Lightning Extreme Edition OC = $699.00 AUD

Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DS = $85.00 AUD

Solid-state Drive: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SSD = $199.00 AUD

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive = $22.00 AUD

Keyboard: Steelseries 6G V2 Mechanical Keyboard = $95.00 AUD

Mouse: Razer Naga Special Molten Edition = Free - Gifted by friend.

Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 Dynamic Audiophile Headphones = $149.00 AUD

Microphone: Zalman Microphone ZM-MIC 1 = $19.00 AUD

Controller: Xbox 360 Black Wired Controller for Windows = $49.00 AUD

Monitor: LG E2441V-BN 24inch LED Widescreen Monitor = $169.00 AUD each, $338.00 AUD total

Webcam: Logitech C510 HD Webcam = $49.00 AUD

Desk between 90-100 CM = Unknown

Total, with postage = $2618.00 AUD


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I should be able to play even the most system demanding games on max settings on a 1920x1050 resolution, even the infamous Metro 2033.<br style="color: rgb(13, 41, 117); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(242, 242, 242); ">


From the benchmarks on reviews I have seen, I don't think you will have any problems though nobody could give you a cast iron guarantee as no two systems are the same.
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I should be able to play even the most system demanding games on max settings on a 1920x1050 resolution, even the infamous Metro 2033.<br style="color: rgb(13, 41, 117); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(242, 242, 242); ">


From the benchmarks on reviews I have seen, I don't think you will have any problems though nobody could give you a cast iron guarantee as no two systems are the same.


I understand, that's all I needed, thank you.

Should I make another topic with the new build asking for final opinions before settling?
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Should I make another topic with the new build asking for final opinions before settling?


You could if you so desired (you are after all about to spend a significant sum of money) but members would not know how you arrived at the final build, you might get further suggestions say for, 2600K, second HDD for storage, that the Mobo integrated sound is more than good enough, etc..

You have had over 350 views on this topic, I feel sure that Phillpower2 is still keeping one eye open ? If after 24 hours he has not come in, you could PM him for his opinion.

Edited by iammykyl, 18 November 2011 - 08:27 AM.

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I would be helpful in detailing my reasons for the build, list the parts I already have like the HDD, and would just look past the repeat suggestions.

However, my intention was going to be to edit my original post and change the title to something along the lines of 'Building a Gaming PC', but as it turns out you can't edit posts on previous pages.

I'll wait for Phill though. Phill's a preety cool gai. Dosn't afraeid of anything.

Edited by TheEigengrau, 18 November 2011 - 03:29 PM.

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Hi TheEigengrau,
For future reference by all means send a PM to bring attention to a topic but also be aware that assistance cannot be offered outside of the forums, this ensures members only get the best advice, knowledge is shared and that we abide by the GTG ToU (Terms of Use) :)
I have included your final selection below and added a couple of comments for you to consider;

The benchmark for the build is synchronous gameplay at 60+ FPS in games such as BF3 and Metro 2033 at maximum settings on a single 24" monitor at 1920x1050 resolution.

Case: Fractal Design Define XL Black = $216.00 AUD

Power Supply: Corsair TX-750 V2 Power Supply = $145.00 AUD

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K = $229.00 AUD

CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 = $25.00 AUD
Unfortunately, I haven't heard good things about standard coolers, so I think I'll be sticking with that EVO cooler.
I do not know what you have heard or read but I can assure you that heatsinks and CPU fans that are bundled with a CPU are more than capable of cooling the processor as they are tested over and above the normal temps that a CPU will be subjected to, there are however two things that can impact this 1: TIM being incorrectly applied 2: Overclocking, you will not apply the TIM incorrectly as you have read this http://www.geekstogo...rface-material/ tutorial so unless you plan on O/Cing the stock HS and fan will suffice, the choice however is yours to make and I only offer guidance here.

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Motherboard = $135.00 AUD

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 = $55.00 AUD

Graphics Card: MSI GeForce GTX 580 3GB Lightning Extreme Edition OC = $699.00 AUD

Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DS = $85.00 AUD
See post #2

Solid-state Drive: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SSD = $199.00 AUD

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive = $22.00 AUD

Total: $1994.00 AUD

Extras.

Keyboard: Steelseries 6G V2 Mechanical Keyboard = $95.00 AUD

Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50 = $184.00 AUD

Microphone: Zalman Microphone ZM-MIC 1 = $19.00 AUD

Monitor: LG E2441V-BN 24inch LED Widescreen Monitor = $169.00 AUD each, $338.00 AUD total

Total: $636.00 AUD

If you were to stick with the stock HS/CPU fan and the onboard audio chip you could use the funds saved to purchase an i7 CPU http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115095 or http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115070 or http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115071

As ever check the CPU and memory support tabs @ http://www.asrock.co...8 Extreme3 Gen3 to ensure compatibility, I hope that you find this input helpful and I apologise if it makes you indecisive.

Acknowledgment to iammykyl for advising via a PM that you were looking for a second opinion :yes:
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Many thanks Phillpower2 for your prompt and helpful advise.
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You are welcome iammykyl team effort :)
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