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the sale on my current monitor ends today and he hasnt got his money yet.
i may have to go with this http://www.newegg.co...N82E16824009256

i am asking him about his internet connection. so we have to wait on that.
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You need to check about the GPU display connection. I feel sure I read that you need DVI on the monitor


After rereading the article, it turns out the mention of the DVI connection was referring to the graphics cards DVI and DVI dual link, when connecting to a single very large display.

If not to late, your original monitor has better performance and is the better option. http://www.newegg.co...N82E16824009315

Hope this has not caused problems.
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yeah i like the first one a lot better but the deal was so post to end yesterday.
its still on sale so im gunna try for that one. he got his check now, but he cant use it until the 1st.
lets just hope these deals carry over for the couple of days he needs.

i have been looking at new psu and i think i found a better one for less money... tell me what you guys think.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817371051
tell me if you guys can find a better one since we only have a couple days left.
what are some trusted brands for psu? i would only stick with corsair and antec, but tell me if there is a different one you guys like.
some other brands have sales. like thermal take for example...
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817153136 (modular :D)
i just dont know if i trust them.

EDIT: here is a link for the one you guys selected
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139020

Edited by Superchimpo, 27 January 2012 - 02:49 PM.

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I am not a fan of modular PSUs as I feel that good cable management is all that is required, misplaced cables are difficult if not near impossible to replace also.

Both the Antec and Corsair PSUs are very good and can provide adequate clean and stable power, the decision is yours to make but to help you decide consider the following points 1: Do I want to spend more cash than I need to 2: Do I need a 750W PSU or is a 650W adequate 3: Should I choose the PSU that has had more reviews and positive feedback?

Check the links and you will see that the majority of Thermaltake PSUs are not favoured, there are also a couple of PSU calculators there to help you choose the recommended Minimum output PSU;

http://www.10stripe....d/psu/brand.php and http://forum.pcmech....ide-inside.html
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I know it is tempting save money on a PSU, that is where you can usually save the most say between 10 PSUs in the 650w/s

It is the one place you should go for the highest quality you can aford, even if it means cutting down somewhere else.

Did one research for you on the Antec Green 750w. comes out I would say OK. http://www.kitguru.n...green-review/5/

You can use this site to look for reviews and rating on any other you might consider. It may not contain every PSU made. http://www.realhardt...vos/Page541.htm

Edited by iammykyl, 28 January 2012 - 02:09 AM.

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Just to add to a bit more info a quality brand 650W brand is enough for the 2500k - a single 560Ti and two HDDs but if you were ever to think about adding a second video card then 750W would be nowhere near enough so the PSU would need replacing.
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this is a difficult choice for me...i looked at reviews on both, but im still stuck. he wants this computer to last a while so i figured get the one with longer warranty and longer lasting hardware. then i took a different approach to it and thought in the future he may need to upgrade his video card and 650w may not be enough. i am still torn between these 2.
what would you guys personally pick? and why?
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Depending on your friends intended use of the computer in the future will strongly influence the decision, to give you an idea, for using 3 or more screens or a single screen larger than 32" an add on card with 2GB of VRam should be used, for anything less a single high end 256-bit video card complimented by a quality CPU, Ram and PSU is adequate.
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hey guys...so it looks like tomorrow is D-day
(he should be coming over and buying it)
huge information dump below

i hate to do this last seconds, but i have a couple more combo deals for you guys to look at.
sorry for dropping all of these links.
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.770956
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.722615
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.644166
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.755238
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.755265

i know some of the psu or motherboards may not be up to par. thats why i am asking you guys
is it really worth getting Z68? everyone seems to think so...
i know some things are bad, but with e huge discounts i could just buy whatever breaks if it does.
i dont expect much out of those bundles, just thought i could show you guys.

some sales ended, and some started...some things need changing
the monitor isnt at the best price it could be anymore
(he wants one that is LED that is at least 20 inches)
the i5 2500k was sold out for quite some time
as of right now, the gpu is still sold out
i found out that he just got a dog and had cats so no bottom facing psu.
and he is going to need a wireless adapter like i linked earlier because he cant use a wire.

after looking at some of those combos, i noticed how little i like the HAF now
this seems to be the better/cheaper choice http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119240
also as a backup http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119196

sorry for dragging this build out for so long. you guys have really helped me a lot.
i really do appreciate all you have done for me this far and i still hope the likes on your comments are enough incentive for you to keep answering me questions

EDIT: the gpu i was going to get is deactivated :(
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102954
now how am i going to get a Radeon HD 6950 2GB with the $240 left :help:

also on the wireless adapters, he wont be hitting speeds of 150 mbps anyway right?
so this should be fine? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833166047
if not then how about this? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833180073
all i know is that internal wireless adapters go faster, but i never get higher than 30-40 mbps

Edited by Superchimpo, 01 February 2012 - 08:50 PM.

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hey guys...so it looks like tomorrow is D-day
(he should be coming over and buying it)
huge information dump below

i hate to do this last seconds, but i have a couple more combo deals for you guys to look at.
sorry for dropping all of these links.
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.770956
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.722615
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.644166
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.755238
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.755265

No disrespect but the quality components are being dragged down by the dross, the 2500k CPU and the Corsair brand PSU are products renowned for quality and performance, unlike some other brands.[/b]

i know some of the psu or motherboards may not be up to par. thats why i am asking you guys
is it really worth getting Z68? everyone seems to think so...

Please see above and BTW you have answered your own question regarding the Z68 MB :thumbsup:


i know some things are bad, but with e huge discounts i could just buy whatever breaks if it does.
i dont expect much out of those bundles, just thought i could show you guys.

some sales ended, and some started...some things need changing
the monitor isnt at the best price it could be anymore
(he wants one that is LED that is at least 20 inches)
the i5 2500k was sold out for quite some time
as of right now, the gpu is still sold out
i found out that he just got a dog and had cats so no bottom facing psu.
and he is going to need a wireless adapter like i linked earlier because he cant use a wire.

after looking at some of those combos, i noticed how little i like the HAF now
this seems to be the better/cheaper choice http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119240
also as a backup http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119196

sorry for dragging this build out for so long. you guys have really helped me a lot.
i really do appreciate all you have done for me this far and i still hope the likes on your comments are enough incentive for you to keep answering me questions

EDIT: the gpu i was going to get is deactivated :(
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102954
now how am i going to get a Radeon HD 6950 2GB with the $240 left :help:

also on the wireless adapters, he wont be hitting speeds of 150 mbps anyway right?
so this should be fine? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833166047
if not then how about this? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833180073
all i know is that internal wireless adapters go faster, but i never get higher than 30-40 mbps


Colleague iammykyl is renowned for putting together good builds but I think even he might struggle getting this one complete by tomorrow with deactivated stock :whistling: :happy:

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i am kinda overlooking those combos and everything now. the only thing i am indecisive on now is the case :P.
there is a sale on a 2gb radeon hd 6950 so im pretty excited about that. aside from it not looking like it will stay very cool.
here is the build as of now...

EDIT: he decided that he liked the haf case better and didnt care about looks very much

case - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119197
MB - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157271
PSU - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139020
*GPU - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814150530
CPU - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115072
RAM - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231461
Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136795
*Monitor - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16824009317
Keyboard - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16823109191
Mouse - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16826153059
*Wireless Adapter - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833166047
*Optical Drive - http://www.newegg.co...al-_-27-136-240
(everything with a * i changed from what you picked and want to hear your opinions on)


Edited by Superchimpo, 02 February 2012 - 11:54 PM.

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I was late getting on today, but Phillpower2 was right, I would not have had time to answer all your questions and give an opinion build. Seeing you have posted again will go through and give suggestions.
The build as posted will work OK.

RAM. Many people have problems with ultra low voltage RAM and you have nothing to gain by using it. Stick with 1.5v, http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231416
A lower CAS, gives you more performance but can cost you heaps more. http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231445

GPU. V good, gets great reviews, is often preferred over the 6970 as is better bang for your buck.

Wireless Adaptor. You get what you pay for. The cheaper ones often have driver problems. I would go for a better quality card with more features, http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833320074
Does the existing Router have wireless? Is there a problem with a direct cable connect?

Monitor. It will do the job as will nearly all the $100 mark ones, but there are so many out there, I can't say it will be good ao poor. Picking from the web it a bit hit and miss, all you can do is read user reviews and note if there are many complaints of=, tearing, blurring odd lines and dead pixels. Can you make do with a borrowed or purloined one for the moment? save another $100 and do more research.
I would be looking at a 23 inch display. If you are seriously thinking of using 3 monitors in the future, make sure they have Display Port, also try to get the screen with the smallest bezel.
You will have a really good build, top GPU, You need a good monitor to do it justice.

Burner is OK.

Case is good. Alternative to look at, http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129021

The rest of the build is very good..

Sorry the response was so late, just could not get to the computer till now.



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the ram i picked was not at random. i picked it from the list of supported memory on the mb's website
if you would like to double check here is the link
http://www.asrock.co...8 Extreme3 Gen3
Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2

he would not be able to connect directly with a cable for internet because it would be highly impractical.
so i am going to go with the wireless adapter you linked because i trust asus and you.

the monitor has a perfect 5 egg rating and the majority of the comments are very positive. i dont remember ever mentioning that he wanted 3 screens, but if i did i take it back. this is his first gaming rig and i feel that this monitor is good for the price. the most i ever see him doing it adding a second monitor for browsing. he is not that insane of a gamer to go 3 screens just yet. also he said he wanted a monitor the same size as mine. (20 inch) his only other specification was that he wanted it to bed LED. this has the best of both worlds for a great price.

unless you guys see something i dont with all the changes we have made, i think we are good to go! :thumbsup:
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if you would like to double check here is the link



Be assured, I had checked, I did know it was on the List, Just giving a heads up that some people had had problems with low voltage RAM.

i think we are good to go!


Yes you arePosted Image

Please let us know how the monitor performs.

AND, Nag, Nag,

Watch them there stand-offs, and make sure your friend takes anti static measures if he is handling the parts.

Good luck, keep in touch.
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i dont remember ever mentioning that he wanted 3 screens,

My fault, in post #68 I offered an explanation of when an add on video card with 2GB of VRam should be used!

Depending on your friends intended use of the computer in the future will strongly influence the decision, to give you an idea, for using 3 or more screens or a single screen larger than 32" an add on card with 2GB of VRam should be used, for anything less a single high end 256-bit video card complimented by a quality CPU, Ram and PSU is adequate.


One improvement that could be made where the monitor is concerned is spending a bit more and purchasing a screen with a 2MS response time particularly as this build is intended for gaming.
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