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Hi again iammykyl,

I have another question. I'm getting some random restarts. As far as I know it has happened 3 times, and twice it was when I was not in the room. Finally it restarted while I was using the computer, so I was able to see the error screen. I didn't have time to get a picture of it, but it said something was wrong with the memory.

This is the problem signature that I got this third time:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 1a
BCP1: 0000000000000403
BCP2: FFFFF68000076F88
BCP3: B8D000007F766005
BCP4: FFFFF680000472A8
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 768_1

Do you have any suggestions on where to start?
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Have you done any over clocking or altered anything in the BIOS?
Have you added any more hardware?
Have you updated any drivers and then the BSOD started?
Take another shot of your temps and upload the results.
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Hi,
No, no overclocking.
No, same hardware.
No, No new bios or driver updates, though I think this problem has been happening since the beginning, just not very often. It seems like it is starting to happen more and more often, though.

New shots attached. The small one is through the mobo windows utility, the big one is through the bios.

new shot 3.jpg
new shot 2.jpg
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Those temps look quite good. I think we can get them a little lower.

Enter BIOS,
Advanced Mode >Monitor, > Chassis Q-Fan Control, > set to disable,
Save and exit.,
restart.

Let us know the results. Is the fan now to noisy.

The error code in Post #31 looks to me as though there may be a problem with the RAM.
Investigating and will post later.
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It is a little noisy, but that is because I turned the chassis fans up to max when I was having the previous heat problem. I could probably turn them down now, but to tell the truth, this system is already much quieter than my previous rig so I am fine with it.

After disabling the Q-Fan thing, the mobo and CPU temps are both 27C--about the same.

At your suggestion that memory might be a problem, I ran Memtest86+ for about 16 hours, and got no errors. Here is a shot of the screen just before I shut it down. Does everything look alright? I was surprised to see only 18% at the top--should I run it longer?

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surprised to see only 18% at the top--should I run it longer?


No, I think you should download the latest version and run that, bookmark the page so you can get back to the official forum.

Sometimes you can get a pass when testing 2 or more sticks, then, the surest way is to test each stick individually.

http://www.memtest.org/

Are you still getting any BSOD?
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Here is the data from the latest version. Should I run it with only one stick at a time now?

I got a BSOD last night while I was burning the disk for memtest. :(

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Yes, would be a good idea. Remove the RAM from slot #2, place it in a marked envelope #2, run the test then remove RAM from slot #1 put in marked envelope #1. Install stick #2 in RAM slot #1 and test.
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Bump.

Edited by iammykyl, 29 January 2012 - 08:02 AM.

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Hi iammykyl,
Thanks for your continued attention!

I was pursuing this problem in another thread, the Win7 thread. You can see the drama here:
http://www.geekstogo...cted-shut-down/

I thought it might be a problem with the software, so I opened another thread there. jcgriff2 there read the kernal reports and said it --probably-- indicated a problem with the memory, either RAM or the video card. I ran each stick through the latest version of Memtest 86+ (as you suggested also), but nothing, no errors. Happyrock suggested that I also run the WMD, Windows Memory Diagnostic. I ran each stick through one pass, but nothing. In my last post there I stated I would run each stick all night to see if that made any difference. I'll do one tonight and the other tomorrow. Frankly, I'll be surprised if there are any errors. I've tested those sticks so many times already.

Per jcgriff2's suggestion on the other thread I also ran memtestg80 to test the memory on the video card. 1500 iterations and no errors. I suppose I could run that one for longer also, as suggested in the readme for that test.

The system seems slightly more stable. I haven't had a crash or a restart for 3-4 days now. For a while there I was getting them every day. I haven't really changed anything in the system, though. Strange.

What do you think?
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I think we can jest about cross the memory of the list.
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As the HDD is not new, it should be tested but first.

Go to device manager, select Hidden Devices, check there are no warning flags.

Go to Manage automatic Update. Select, Notify of updates, but do not download, this to prevent windows from updating drivers.

Go to the event viewer (start => run => eventvwr.msc), check the different sections there and report any warning or error you see. Tell us about the source, the event ID and paste the text you see under description when you double-click the event (right-click => copy doesn't work there so use ctrl+c instead).

Go to the Manufacturers website for you HDD, download the correct diagnostic tool for your drive (dsconnect your external drive) and run the program.

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Edited by iammykyl, 16 February 2012 - 04:23 AM.

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Go to device manager, select Hidden Devices, check there are no warning flags.

no warning flags

Go to Manage automatic Update. Select, Notify of updates, but do not download, this to prevent windows from updating drivers.


Done. There are 17 files waiting to be installed, by the way.

Go to the event viewer (start => run => eventvwr.msc), check the different sections there and report any warning or error you see. Tell us about the source, the event ID and paste the text you see under description when you double-click the event (right-click => copy doesn't work there so use ctrl+c instead).


Admin events: the critical events are the same as already reported.

Errors: there are sooooo many! I pasted just one example of each type.
Again, these are JUST the admin errors. It took so long to cut and paste all this. That is all I have time for today. Let me know if you want me to report other kinds of errors.

Error 1/22/2012 10:43:51 AM Bonjour Service 100 None
ERROR: handle_resolve_request bad interfaceIndex 22

Error 1/22/2012 7:51:15 PM Dhcp-Client 1001 Address Configuration State Event
Your computer was not assigned an address from the network (by the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 0x00268331C684. The following error occurred: 0x79. Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server.

Error 1/22/2012 7:50:55 PM WMI 10 None
Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected.

Error 1/12/2012 5:49:30 PM CAPI2 4107 None
Failed extract of third-party root list from auto update cab at: <http://www.download....uthrootstl.cab> with error: A required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file.

Error 1/22/2012 12:12:47 PM Service Control Manager 7031 None
The Superfetch service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 1 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 60000 milliseconds: Restart the service.

Error 1/22/2012 12:12:41 PM Application Error 1000 (100)
Faulting application name: svchost.exe_SysMain, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5bc3c1
Faulting module name: sysmain.dll, version: 6.1.7601.17514, time stamp: 0x4ce7c9db
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000000032df
Faulting process id: 0x664
Faulting application start time: 0x01ccd93012ca31ec
Faulting application path: C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe
Faulting module path: c:\windows\system32\sysmain.dll
Report Id: 6f6d798e-4535-11e1-85d3-00268331c684

Error 1/22/2012 3:04:29 PM EventLog 6008 None
The previous system shutdown at 3:01:47 PM on ‎1/‎22/‎2012 was unexpected.

Error 1/12/2012 5:49:29 PM CAPI2 4107 None
Failed extract of third-party root list from auto update cab at: <http://www.download....uthrootstl.cab> with error: A required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file.

Error 1/12/2012 5:07:16 PM Schannel 36888 None
The following fatal alert was generated: 10. The internal error state is 10.

Error 1/12/2012 3:56:25 PM Service Control Manager 7023 None
The Windows Modules Installer service terminated with the following error:
%%16405

Error 1/23/2012 9:05:01 PM BugCheck 1001 None
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000050 (0xfffffa7f8fe170cd, 0x0000000000000001, 0xfffff88003e318be, 0x0000000000000007). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 012312-15553-01.

Error 1/20/2012 6:50:36 PM Disk 11 None
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\DR1.

Error 1/20/2012 4:03:34 PM .NET Runtime 1023 None
Application: plugin-container.exe
CoreCLR Version: 5.0.61118.0
Description: The process was terminated due to an internal error in the .NET Runtime at IP 6738F203 (67210000) with exit code 80131506.

Error 1/20/2012 12:33:15 PM PrintService 318 Adding a printer driver
Failed to upgrade printer settings for printer Canon MP620 series Printer,1 driver Canon MP620 series Printer. Error: 1801. The device settings for the printer are set to those configured by the manufacturer.

Error 1/21/2012 2:21:53 PM Eventlog 1101 Event processing
Audit events have been dropped by the transport. 0

Error 1/21/2012 1:33:54 PM Server 2505 None
The server could not bind to the transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1BA1075A-E4EE-4468-88F8-BFA753C6CF48} because another computer on the network has the same name. The server could not start.

Error 1/12/2012 5:49:30 PM CAPI2 4107 None
Failed extract of third-party root list from auto update cab at: <http://www.download....uthrootstl.cab> with error: A required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file

Error 1/12/2012 6:43:28 PM Microsoft Office 12 Sessions 7001 None
ID: 6, Application Name: Microsoft Office Outlook, Application Version: 12.0.4518.1014, Microsoft Office Version: 12.0.4518.1014. This session lasted 5831 seconds with 660 seconds of active time. This session ended with a crash.

Error 1/11/2012 6:11:14 PM Ntfs 55 (2)
The file system structure on the disk is corrupt and unusable. Please run the chkdsk utility on the volume Programs.

Error 1/26/2012 10:20:09 AM Disk 11 None
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\DR1

Error 1/26/2012 7:53:50 AM Eventlog 22 Service startup
The event logging service encountered an error while initializing publishing resources for channel HardwareEvents. If channel type is Analytic or Debug, then this could mean there was an error initializing logging resources as well.

Error 1/26/2012 7:53:26 AM Service Control Manager 7000 None
The Encrypting File System (EFS) service failed to start due to the following error:
A thread could not be created for the service.

Error 1/26/2012 7:51:17 AM Service Control Manager 7011 None
A timeout (30000 milliseconds) was reached while waiting for a transaction response from the wudfsvc service.

Error 1/26/2012 7:53:16 AM Service Control Manager 7023 None
The Task Scheduler service terminated with the following error:
The paging file is too small for this operation to complete.

Error 1/26/2012 7:49:50 AM Service Control Manager 7000 None
The COM+ Event System service failed to start due to the following error:
The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion.

Error 1/11/2012 8:29:13 PM CAPI2 4107 None
Failed extract of third-party root list from auto update cab at: <http://www.download....uthrootstl.cab> with error: A required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file.

Error 1/26/2012 7:47:25 AM Service Control Manager 7022 None
The Windows Audio Endpoint Builder service hung on starting.

Error 1/25/2012 5:06:28 PM Kernel-EventTracing 2 Session
Session "Circular Kernel Context Logger" failed to start with the following error: 0xC0000035

Error 1/12/2012 10:21:43 PM VSS 13 None
Volume Shadow Copy Service information: The COM Server with CLSID {4e14fba2-2e22-11d1-9964-00c04fbbb345} and name CEventSystem cannot be started. [0x800703e6, Invalid access to memory location.
]

Error 1/12/2012 10:22:18 PM Service Control Manager 7031 None
The Peer Networking Identity Manager service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 1 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 300000 milliseconds: Restart the service.

Error 1/12/2012 10:21:43 PM VSS 13 None
Volume Shadow Copy Service information: The COM Server with CLSID {4e14fba2-2e22-11d1-9964-00c04fbbb345} and name CEventSystem cannot be started. [0x800703e6, Invalid access to memory location.

Error 1/12/2012 10:22:18 PM Service Control Manager 7009 None
A timeout was reached (30000 milliseconds) while waiting for the Windows Error Reporting Service service to connect.

Error 1/17/2012 9:08:36 PM .NET Runtime 1023 None
Application: plugin-container.exe
CoreCLR Version: 5.0.61118.0
Description: The process was terminated due to an internal error in the .NET Runtime at IP 61E141AF (61D00000) with exit code 80131506.

Error 1/12/2012 10:25:18 PM LsaSrv 5000 None
The security package Negotiate generated an exception. The exception information is the data.

Error 1/12/2012 10:25:48 PM Service Control Manager 7038 None
The WerSvc service was unable to log on as NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM with the currently configured password due to the following error:
The remote procedure call failed.
To ensure that the service is configured properly, use the Services snap-in in Microsoft Management Console (MMC).

Error 1/13/2012 3:09:14 PM Kernel-EventTracing 2 Session
Session "Circular Kernel Context Logger" failed to start with the following error: 0xC0000035

Error 1/13/2012 1:52:46 AM MsiInstaller 11935 None
Product: Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.6161 -- Error 1935.An error occurred during the installation of assembly 'Microsoft.VC90.ATL,version="9.0.30729.6161",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",processorArchitecture="x86",type="win32"'. Please refer to Help and Support for more information. HRESULT: 0x80070BC9. assembly interface: IAssemblyCacheItem, function: Commit, component: {03329364-ED3E-3EF1-ACB0-C1E9F5282929}


Error 1/12/2012 10:24:23 PM Search 3100 Gatherer
Unable to initialize the filter host process. Terminating.
Details: This operation returned because the timeout period expired. (HRESULT : 0x800705b4) (0x800705b4)

After seeing the report above that there was a problem with the D: drive (a part of my partitioned 1tb hdd), I tried to run chkdsk. I saw a window flash on the screen but it disappeared too fast to see what it said.

I'm going to post this before I run the diag tool for the hdd

mc

Edited by mclimbin, 16 February 2012 - 10:48 AM.

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Ran the quick test: no errors.

Running the extended test now.
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HDD passed the diagnostic. No errors. Also, no crashes since the 12th (5 days).
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that is a good result, also not getting any BSOD.

This next advise from Phillpower2, who is more experienced at this type of trouble shooting, (we have already checked the HDD hardware)

I would agree that the integrity of the HDD and the data on it needs to be checked, use SFC (system file checker) for the data, download from http://www.sevenforu...le-checker.html

Take head of the warning. Follow the instruction from Option Two and let us know the results.
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