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#106
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[quote name='Digerati' timestamp='1326640719' post='2107952']
[quote]...there was my CPU fan hanging.
I guess the stock thermal paste wasn't very good? [/quote]As mentioned above in Post #67[quotename='Digerati']It is not "paste" in the same sense some paste is used to "glue" and stick things together. In other words, it is not an adhesive. It is simply TIM - thermal interface material that sits between the CPU die and the heatsink mating surfaces.[/quote]

I recommend as soon as Windows is installed, make sure Windows Firewall is enabled. Then install the motherboard drivers from your motherboard utilities disk. Then download and install your anti-malware solution - I use and recommend Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE). Then let Windows Update update Windows. Run Windows Update again until it says no further updates are available.

At this point, I recommend running Windows Disk Cleanup to rid the system of temp files that were created during install. Once done, reboot into Safe Mode and run Windows Disk Defragger.

Now you are ready to install your other programs.
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Just did everything you said :D, man this thing loads so much faster then my old pc :D.

I will post some pictures in the coming days of the build and such, thank you all for your help :)
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Posting from my new PC (:D). Everything seems to be going fine, the temps went up a little higher then usual earlier today, but they went back down. Do you guys know any good programs that show the temps on your desktop or something?
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I use CoreTemp. Here is my canned text on Hardware monitors:

Your motherboard utilities disk should have a monitoring program (or check for a more recent version on your motherboard or PC maker's website). If none, I recommend CoreTemp for newer Intel and AMD64 CPUs, or http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>RealTemp for Intels. SpeedFan is a great and popular alternative, or you can try Motherboard Monitor. Unfortunately, I have found that these programs often have problems properly identifying and labeling the sensor they are reading. The temperatures shown are as accurate as the inexpensive, low-tech sensors will allow, but it may say System Fan instead of CPU Fan. Fortunately, the programs do allow you to edit the labels, so I use Everest to verify the temperatures (as it is able to match sensor with label correctly), then edit the label in the monitoring program. In Everest, look under Computer > Sensor, then wait a couple seconds for the readings to appear. Unfortunately, Everest does not minimize to the system tray to show real-time temperatures, otherwise, you could use Everest instead of the others. Check but do not rely on the temps shown in the BIOS Setup Menu. While they are likely correct, running the BIOS Setup Menu is probably the least demanding task you can ask of your computer so it does not show the temps when the system is being taxed. But if the BIOS Setup Menu temps are high, you have a problem that needs to be corrected. HWMonitor, from the makers of CPUID is also very informative, but does not minimize to the system tray.

I get nervous when CPU temperatures hit 60°C. While most CPUs are capable operating at higher temps, system stability issues arise and long term exposure to very warm temperatures increases component aging (including the CPU socket and surrounding devices). GPU (graphics processing unit) temperatures typically run considerably warmer with 80°C not uncommon.


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ok guys, having a problem here...

When I boot, it says "please reboot or insert boot media and press any key" I went into my bios, went to advanced, but there is no place to change boot prioritys, its like the pc isn't reading my HD or cd/dvd drive. Does it matter which sata cables I used for the hd and cd drive? Do they have to be certain ones?

Read through my manual and I can't find an answer...

Help me plz :(
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Fixed it... don't know what that was about lol
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How did you fix it?
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Lost this site pretty much right after I built that PC :P.

Computer was great for a while, but the Graphics card died in about 2 months, which was lame.

I am building a new machine here soon, then I will sell the one I built earlier this year...



Just wanted to say thanks for all the help and what not! Learned so much from this place it's not even funny.
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You are welcome C0pyRyte and thank you for taking the time to post an update :thumbsup:

Let us know if you have any questions concerning the new build.
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So it has been a few days since I have decided to do another build.... Got one problem.


I can't decide which parts to get! I'll find something I like, and then I find something nicer... it's driving me crazy :P


Anyone want to help me decide?


Budget is $1k for this one

EDIT:

I might just upgrade my old one.. I think I would save a lot of $$...

New CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819113284
New GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130787
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103099
SSD for Booting: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148441
+ Maxing out the memory to 16

Should I keep the 600W power supply I have, or should I upgrade that as well?

Edited by C0pyRyte, 10 November 2012 - 09:49 AM.

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Hello C0pyRyte

Couple of questions for you;
What will the main use of the build be, gaming, work, CAD, rendering video as examples.
What parts will you be using from your present system.

Until we know what the computers main use will be we can not comment on the CPU and the GPU, we can though give you some pointers on the CPU cooler and the SSD;

Your aftermarket cooler, a very important thing I must make you aware of is that you do not need the additional heatsink and CPU fan and if you did use it you would void your CPU warranty both AMD and Intel are clear on this, see below;

AMD;

This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith.

Full AMD article @ http://support.amd.c...earLimited.aspx

Intel;

damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing;

Full Intel article available @ http://www.intel.com...b/cs-009862.htm

Choose an SSD with a minimum 120GB of storage space as this will allow for the many OS updates that will be released in the years to come + you will be able to run your favorite games from it http://pcpartpicker....ive-ct128v4ssd2
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I'll be using it for everything, really. I play some games (BF3,Dirt3,etc...), but only like.. Once a week or so.
I do more web surfing/Photoshop stuff more then I game, though.

Keeping my old case (http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811147153)
Old MoBo (http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813138324)
And old Power Supply if I don't need a new one (http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139028)

Debating on whether or not I should get another AMD CPU and keep the old Mobo, or get an intel CPU and a new Mobo that supports intel.

Things I am getting for sure:

Graphics: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130787
New Memory: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231461
SSD for the OS: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820148448



Just need help on the CPU, really :P


PS: I won't be overclocking or anything like that, if that helps any
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Having checked the MBs QVL I can tell you that the CPU you linked to earlier is not compatible http://www.biostar.c...hp?S_ID=523#cpu and that your Ram has not been tested with the MB either, the Ram may work but I would recommend you purchase Ram from the QVL for guaranteed compatibility.

Personally I would opt for a new MB and an Intel 3570K CPU.

Can I ask if there was an issue with the less expensive SSD I suggested http://www.bhphotovi...4_SSD_2_5_.html

The PSU will need to wait until all other parts are chosen and confirmed as available.

That is an awesome GPU BTW but rather expensive for your intended use.
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Having checked the MBs QVL I can tell you that the CPU you linked to earlier is not compatible http://www.biostar.c...hp?S_ID=523#cpu and that your Ram has not been tested with the MB either, the Ram may work but I would recommend you purchase Ram from the QVL for guaranteed compatibility.

Personally I would opt for a new MB and an Intel 3570K CPU.

Can I ask if there was an issue with the less expensive SSD I suggested http://www.bhphotovi...4_SSD_2_5_.html

The PSU will need to wait until all other parts are chosen and confirmed as available.

That is an awesome GPU BTW but rather expensive for your intended use.


I see I see..

@ The SSD: I've spent so much time browsing Newegg, I completely forgot that I can buy things from somewhere else :lol:, thanks for the link!

@ the CPU: Yea, I figured my cheap Mobo wouldn't be able to run that beast of a CPU, I see the 3570k is the same price as the one I had listed, so thats good.

@ The GPU: I might just get a cheaper one, so I can have some extra $$ for a good Mobo.

This is pretty cheap (http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130625), but I don't want to get a cheap one like I did last time, and have it crap out on me a few months later :upset:

Going to go read up on some decent intel Mobo's now
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A GPU for you http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20 you will not need to upgrade your PSU as the card only requires a minimum 450W, the performance is top shelf as it is both fast and 256-bit for better video quality.

I suggest a Z77 platform MB and will look for some good spec and prices for you now.

MB http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20

Edited by phillpower2, 11 November 2012 - 09:25 AM.
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Thanks!

Should be able to order all of this sometime this coming week.

I'll update this whenever I receive the items, then ill post some pictures of the updated build :D.



Thanks again!
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