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SECURİTY ACCOUNTS MANAGER (SAM)


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W XP HOME SP3
HP LAPTOP


Hi All,

The Security Accounts Manager (SAM) needs to be in working order,for the use of the Recovery Console in case of need.

My question is this:How can it be checked whether or not it is working properly?

My Registry Editor shows it as 'DEFAULT REG_SZ VALUE NOT SET

What Value should it be set at?

And how should that be done?

Step by step instruction is needed,to avoid any disaster.

Thank you.


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If SAM isn't working (the registry database file is corrupted in some way) then you would not be able to boot XP.
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Hi and thanks for your reply Ztruker,

İ'm sorry at first i misunderstood what you said.

İ don't necessarily think that it isn't working,i'm simply asking the questions as above.


Thanks

Edited by mysoul, 08 January 2012 - 02:04 PM.

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Yes, I understood that. I was trying to answer your question. If SAM is messed up you do not have a working computer, so if it's working then that means SAM is okay.

Not sure what it has to do with Recovery Console though? Are you talking about installing the Recovery Console on your hard drive so it's available when needed? If so, and for some reason it doesn't work you can boot a XP installation CD to get to the Recovery Console.

If you don't have an XP CD, download and run ARCDC by Artellos. It will download the required files from the Microsoft Web site and create a .iso file. It will also offer to burn the iso image to a CD for you. If you don't do it then, there is a good freeware burner called ImgBurn which will do it at a later time. If you're unsure how to do this, you can follow the tutorial here: How to Burn an ISO File. This can be done from any computer.
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Hi again Ztruker,

My laptop is fully functional,at least i don't have any error messages or the like.

However the situation is this: A few days ago i downloaded COMPO FİX and the appropriate files from Microsoft

and COMBO FİX installed the Recovery Console as a boot option.

Download and install went fine,

however when i tried to check it it would NOT work.

When i tried to type in 'Enter' my laptop started swirling furiously and everything would freeze momentarily.

Then when i could finally type,there was simply NO Response.

İ tried this several times,same result each time.

İt was obviously not going to work.
So i deleted it.

So knowing that SAM needs to be in working order for the Recovery Console to function,

i wrote the above post thinking that perhaps the Registry Editor needs to be set at a certain value?

So what do you think? İ could try again with the downloads you offered,

i'm just afraid of damaging my system this time

Can you perhaps tell me what your Registry Editor says re:SAM?

Thank you very much for your effort.

Edited by mysoul, 09 January 2012 - 06:59 AM.

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My first question is, why were you installing Combo Fix? Without direction it can be a dangerous program to mess with. Did you get it here: Combo Fix and did you read the warnings right at the top?

I see it says it supports XP, Vista and Win 7 but when it installs the Recovery Console, that is almost certainly a XP version which I don't think is compatible with Windows Vista or 7. I think that is why it doesn't work, but that's just a guess on my part. I'll see if I can get one of our Malware folks to respond on this for you.

There really is nothing I can look at via regedit. If you look at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SAM all you see is a Default and (value not set). See here for some good info on the registry. It says it applies up through Vista but it's also valid for Windows 7: Windows registry information for advanced users

Hang on a bit and I'll see who I can find to help.

Edit: strikeout invalid info :blush:
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'My first question is, why were you installing Combo Fix? Without direction it can be a dangerous program to mess with. Did you get it here: Combo Fix and did you read the warnings right at the top?'

Downloaded and read instructions( of course ) from AUMHA but read instructions on how to delete from your system here.




'I see it says it supports XP, Vista and Win 7 but when it installs the Recovery Console, that is almost certainly a XP version which I don't think is compatible with Windows Vista or 7. I think that is why it doesn't work, but that's just a guess on my part. I'll see if I can get one of our Malware folks to respond on this for you'.


But my OS İS W XP SP3


Thanks for your effort again
i'm about to GİVE UP on this thing

By the way i downloaded and burned the İSO file,and have found out

that the i386 folder while on my system does NOT contain the winnt32.exe.

So this is probably the reason ,the disc would NOT run when i put it on my DVD-RAM drive.

Regards

Edited by mysoul, 09 January 2012 - 11:33 AM.

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Sorry about that, working too many threads at one time and I got confused :blush:

The Recovery Console will still boot from a CD. It does not need winnt32.exe for that. It's only needed when you want to install the RC on your computer.

Don't go away yet. Please wait a bit, let's see what the malware folks say.
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Hi again,

'The Recovery Console will still boot from a CD. It does not need winnt32.exe for that. It's only needed when you want to install the RC on your computer.'


Well that's why i could NOT install or rather install a working RC on my laptop.Right?

Because the winnt32.exe is needed for that.

That's what i've been tryıng to figure out,why i couldn't get the RC to work from the boot menu.

When you say that the 'Recovery Console will still boot from a CD(namely the İSO burned on the CD)

What exactly does that mean?

Can you be specific please?

What good does the İSO burned on the CD do me,if i can't have the Recovery Console as a boot optıon?

Please specify!

Thanks.
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Read here: Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console for advanced users - read the Option 2: Starting the Windows Recovery Console from the Windows XP CD-ROM part.

Also see the section Available commands within Windows Recovery Console near the bottom.

There is no benefit to your having the Recovery Console as a boot option other than convenience, since anything you can do there you can also do by booting it from a CD.

I don't know why the RC that Combo Fix installed did not work, it should have.
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Hi again Ztruker,

İ'm very grateful for all the effort you have put into helping me.

İ will read on the links you provided,

Thanks again,much appreciated.


Regards
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I'm still hoping one of the malware folks will stop by to offer their opinion.

In any case, post back if there are any more questions.

Good luck
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I chatted with one of our malware guru's and there really isn't anything they could offer.
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I chatted with one of our malware guru's and there really isn't anything they could offer.





Hi again Ztruker,

İ didn't think there would be anything they could do.

İ now have the Windows Recovery Console on CD,

( thanks to you )and that's enough.

İ wish to thank you again for all your effort,you've been great.

Regards
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You're welcome.

If you get bored :whistling: xp recovery console on flash drive
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