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And as of right now my this is my last question. For the PCIeX1 computer, with what I have came up with in the last 2 posts (44 and 45) what build would you suggest? The PCIeX16 card with the adapter? Or the PCIeX1 card alone? I know the fans are better than the Heatsinks but Im going for performance and gfx quality.

If YES to the PCIeX16, which 1 of the 2 would you pick?
http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card OR http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card

Or if YES to the PCIeX1, which of the 2 would you pick? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161354 OR http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814500233 ?

The specs are in this post http://www.geekstogo...ost__p__2106126

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Edited by heartgrave, 08 June 2012 - 02:16 AM.

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http://en.wikipedia....:PCIExpress.jpg

Just confirmed my nephew has the slot at the bottom. in this picture and according to it.... its a conventional PCI (32bit) slot. If I buy http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card will it fit in this slot?
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heartgrave
Please allow us time to reply to one question at a time, your multiple posts are not helpful they are in fact confusing which has the potential for something to be overlooked - I previously advised you in my post #43;

Hi heartgrave

Please start a new topic and include all your system specs for us.
Reading through information in this thread that does not bare any relevance to the system with the issue is time consuming and confusing and may lead to something being overlooked, thank you for your understanding.


Please respect forum etiquette and the free assistance that members and staff give willingly, if you wish to ask another question or add further information before you receive a reply please edit your last reply by way of the Edit tab - bottom right corner of the page.

Alright looks like im wanting to get 2 of these http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card

Is the one above in this post (#44) better than http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card
There is not enough information about the cards at those links.

Are the ones above in this post (#44) better than NVIDIA® GeForce® 260 or ATI Radeon™ HD 4870
See Benchmarks @ http://www.videocard...h_end_gpus.html

Would a PCI fit into a PCIeX16 slot and vice versa? They look the same to me?
No and No, what would be the point of them both having different format names if they were both the same type of card.
So this is what im looking at for the PCIeX1 computer: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815158285 and http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102993 with the proper PSU of course but will that combo work?
Did you read the product details? See below;

The PEX1TO16R PCI Express x1 to x16 Slot Extension Adapter allows for PCI Express (PCIe) cards up to x16 in size to be installed into x1 PCIe slots, within a 1U rack mount chassis - a necessary accessory for almost any 1U chassis

Is the case a 1U rack mount chassis?

Do you think there is a better, more faster Adapter available?
An example of one that is known to be compatible http://www.amazon.co...2/dp/B0039XPS5W or Newegg http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815158223SOOO sorry for all the questions! Im getting this stuff for my brother and nephew and dont wanna get them crap ya know?



And as of right now my this is my last question. For the PCIeX1 computer, with what I have came up with in the last 2 posts (44 and 45) what build would you suggest? The PCIeX16 card with the adapter? Or the PCIeX1 card alone? I know the fans are better than the Heatsinks but Im going for performance and gfx quality.
Having never used this type of product I cannot give you an informed answer so I suggest that you read the reviews of people who actually have.

If YES to the PCIeX16, which 1 of the 2 would you pick?
http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card OR http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card
Neither and due to their size for one reason.
Or if YES to the PCIeX1, which of the 2 would you pick? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161354 OR http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814500233 ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161354

The specs are in this post http://www.geekstogo...ost__p__2106126
I would look for a smaller card (low profile) to make sure that there is enough room inside the case.
SORRY!!!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCIExpress.jpg

Just confirmed my nephew has the slot at the bottom. in this picture and according to it.... its a conventional PCI (32bit) slot. If I buy http://shop.amd.com/...ry:Graphic Card will it fit in this slot?
No, a tell-tale sign is to look at the length difference of the slots.


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Which of these 2 cards would you suggest over the other? Or would you know of a better card maybe? Need to be HDMI.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814131432

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814500260

I was also thinking of going with.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815158223

and

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161391

Im looking for something that will play World of Warcraft on Ultra settings with like 30-40+ FPS on the computer mentioned in the beginning of this post. The recommended system video cards for World of Warcraft is NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, ATI Radeon HD 4830 (512 MB) or better. I have measured it and from the gfx card port on the MB to the opposite case wall is a 5" clearance so I am unsure if an adapter for PCIe X1 to PCIe X16 will work? The max I am looking to spend on just a card is like $150. The PSU, I will take care of so no need to find one of them.
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Out of the two cards http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814500260 a faster card + it is DDR3 as opposed to the other card being the DDR2 type.

Using an adapter would allow for a better choice of add on card but also keep in mind that the card will sit higher up in the case which may prevent the side of the case from fitting on correctly.
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You think the highest settings will be able to be reached with that card or even make a difference compared to the chipset he has in there now?

Edited by heartgrave, 09 September 2012 - 01:01 PM.

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Yes without a doubt, the original computer set up was intended for such things as office work and not gaming, remember an integrated video chip relies on other system resources to function such as the Ram, the add on video card is faster and has it`s own memory.
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Ok so this card requires a 300 watt power supply. If I have an old stock PSU that gives this power, will I be able to use it?

Do you think there is a better PCIe X1 card out there? I feel this card will be the same as the ATI Radeon HD 3450 I replaced on my computer a few years back.

Can you please find a PSU that is compatible with the current MB and this card even though I mentioned in a previous post not to worry about it? But please consider the future MB, CPU, and GPU upgrade that will be done later on.

I am buying the PSU and Card when I get your confirmation. The RAM, MB, CPU and a PCIe X16 card will be done over the next few months, by christmas.

Edited by heartgrave, 11 September 2012 - 12:26 AM.

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Ok so this card requires a 300 watt power supply. If I have an old stock PSU that gives this power, will I be able to use it?
As long as it has all of the relevant cables that your MB and other hardware need yes, the specs for the card that I found state that the card does not require an additional power supply from the PSU, see http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagt610fermiseries/zt-60605-10l.html

A cautionary note, do not use a cheap, poor quality PSU as the results could be disastrous.

Do you think there is a better PCIe X1 card out there? I feel this card will be the same as the ATI Radeon HD 3450 I replaced on my computer a few years back.
I will have a look for a better performing card than the Zotac and post back if I find one, can I ask you to also have a look as it may save you some time.
The Zotac card is faster, has an improved memory (DDR3) over DDR2 and is DirectX11 capable as opposed to the HD3450, see previous cards specs for comparison
http://www.512bit.net/ati.html

Can you please find a PSU that is compatible with the current MB and this card even though I mentioned in a previous post not to worry about it? But please consider the future MB, CPU, and GPU upgrade that will be done later on.
I will do this once the choice of video card is confirmed.

I am buying the PSU and Card when I get your confirmation. The RAM, MB, CPU and a PCIe X16 card will be done over the next few months, by christmas.


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The Zotac card is good then thanks for all the help! But if I do not need a PSU for this card to run then do not find one right now. Can do that later on.

Edited by heartgrave, 11 September 2012 - 01:59 PM.

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You are welcome :thumbsup:
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Got the card today... works great big difference in everything for him. He was however not able to run on highest settings but its still a big upgrade. He was at the lowest possible settings and was only able to get to mid way settings. If he was to go higher he would of be running at like 2-5 frames per second. I also got him the Ripjaw 8G RAM sticks as well. Thanks as always!
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Glad to hear that the card is an improvement but not about the poor frame rate :(
Can I ask what software is having problems with the FPS.

You are welcome BTW :thumbsup:
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World of Warcraft. When he was running off the chipset he was only able to run the game on the lowest settings. With this upgrade he was able to get up to the "High" settings. The options are Low, Medium, High, Ultra and Custom. His FPS jumped up from like 10 on Low settings before the upgrade to High with FPS around 30 after the upgrade. If he was to go to Ultra the FPS would drop down to under 10.
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The machine specs meet all of the recommended system requirements of WOW, the problem with budget cards is that they are normally only 64-bit which is a downside, still I hope that WOW at high settings will suffice.
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