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i have windows xp pro-sp3. i use the microsoft update site often.

also i used "smart driver updater" to hopefully update my drivers. i was able to use the program and get most of the drivers updated.

there are a few drivers that i was told i had to update manually.

i can't figure out how to load them manually. so can someone tell me how it's to be done ??

here is the info the driver updater gave me......

microcode update device - 5.1.2600.2180

microsoft kernel drm audio descrambler - 5.1.2535.0

acpi fixed feature button - 5.1.2600.2180



what process / software is needed, for me to be able to get these loaded onto my pc ??
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You should not always rely on the reports from Smart Driver Updater or any other such program., in respect of issues such as these.

Go Device Manager, click the View Tab, click Show Hidden Devices
Check if there are any warnings shown against these entries.

Look in System devices for the acpi fixed feature button - if that entry does not have any warning against it and check by double clicking the entry to open it - that the device is working properly. THEN simply ignore the report from the Driver Update program.
The entry is actually detailed as:
The ACPI Fixed Feature Button provides support for the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) feature button. This component supplies the machine.inf file, which is a system-supplied INF (information) file that is associated with standard system devices
If it has a warning, open the device, and see what is reported.



In respect of the microcode update device entry, AGAIN it is unwise to place total reliance on the report from Smart Driver.
The microcode update service is in respect of processors with an Intel chip.
It is not normally a matter that you have to configure in anyway.
Indeed if the entry has a warning, it may simply mean that the micrcode update service is not loaded BECAUSE it is NOT required on that computer.
Again this is the problem relying totally on such reports.

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/288302/EN-US

AND why it is not always necessary to concern yourself - again it is Device Manager and click the View tab Show Hidden devices.
If the microcode on your computer is current, the drivers are unloaded by design. In this case, the code 24 status message is expected, and it does not indicate a problem. The device is marked as hidden and is not visible by default. Therefore, when the code 24 status message occurs, the message is not displayed when you are using the default configuration.


In respect of the Microsoft kernel drm audio descrambler
In device manager expand the entry for your sound video and game controllers
Check if any entry has a warning

If any devices are indicated as requiring attention, then you should always obtain drivers from these sources
1. If the computer is branded and with the original equipment the manufacturers site eg. Dell Hp etc.
2. If it is not branded or hardware has been added the motherboard manufacturers site in the case of onboard sound device - ie not a separate sound card
3. The manufacturers site for the card/device.
4. As a last resort the generic driver from Realtek or whatever the device is.



SO in summary, if all is working well and there are no warnings shown in device manager (with the exception of the entry for the microcode update device)
then leave well alone and forget the report from Smart Driver Updater
ESPECIALLY if the provider happens to be this Smart Driver Updater
http://www.mywot.com...martpctools.com
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thanks Macboatmaster !!

i will do as suggested, and post my results.....

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Macboatmaster,

i did as you suggested. just as you figured, i was not getting accurate information from the "smart driver updater". everything checked out ok, except for one item. the items the "smart driver updater" listed as needing newer drivers, all had newer drivers, than what the driver updater was wanting to load.

in my "computer management", there is one item with a yellow question mark on it.

it is the "other devices" item.
it opened up to "pci serial port".
it lists the device type as "other devices".
manufacturer is "unknown".
location - pci slot 2 (pci bus 5, device 9, function 0.
no drivers are installed, code 28.


i am not able to load any drivers to the port.

is this showing up this way because there is nothing connected to this port ??

i am fairly new to computers, and this is the first time i have assembled one with parts from two computers. i am happy, and surprised, to have gotten this far with the project !!

a question about updating drivers. is it best to go to computer management and go through each device and try to update there drivers that way ?? compared to using a driver updater program ??

your help is very appreciated !!

ron
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Sorry you have had to wait a bit I do not come online until about 1600 to 1800 hrs UK time.

pci slot 2


As you say assembled - I presume a desktop.
What is in PCI slot 2 please.

On the rear of the case is the I/O plate where the mouse keyboard etc connect

Then you have below that the speaker mic, line out etc.
Below that are where the connections to PCI/AGP devices would be.
As you assembled it you probably know all this of course - so what please is in slot 2.
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Macboatmaster, no worries about when you have the time to respond / help with my computer issues. i feel lucky that you take the time to help me !!

sorry for not giving enough information about the system i am working on.....

it is a desktop, hp compaq evo d510 cmt.

motherboard is a compaq 07e8h (xu1 processor)

i checked on the pci slot-2. i found that it has a two port "16550 fast serial 16-byte buffer" card in it. i will try to load a picture of it for you to see.

is this card something that would help with my everyday computer activities ?? or should i just leave it alone ??

i just want to let you know, i am mechanicaly inclined. i am curiouse about how things work, and can usually take something apart, and put it back together with minimal problems. my avatar is a picture of a motorcycle that i built.

but when it comes to these computers, i am at the beggining stages of learning how they work. i do try to do my own research to find the answers i am looking for. but very often i don't understand what i have read. so i ask for help on the forums.

don't be shy about assuming that i will, or won't know what you are trying to explain. feel free to give any instructions you think will help.

i appreciate your help !!

ron

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Edited by SKOOTERBUM, 29 January 2012 - 06:16 PM.

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while mac's offline...
try reinstalling the chipset drivers...
do you actually have anything connected to the serial ports...if not ignore the device manager
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Thanks see PM please - offline explanation
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while mac's offline...
try reinstalling the chipset drivers...
do you actually have anything connected to the serial ports...if not ignore the device manager




happyrock, thanks for offering your input !!

this is a home pc, used for basic internet services.

there is nothing connected to the two ports on this card.

i have no idea what this is for ??

i am wondering if i would benefit from the use of the card, and question the warning label at this port in device manager.
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Extremely unlikely.
Old technology apart from a few specialist applications - mostly today found on specialist built computers.

Was used for modems (dial up) at one time
Old cameras and occasionally old printers but those were mostly connected to the parallel port.
and most that was connected by a serial port in the case of the domestic user is now mainly USB


http://intrl.startec...I-Card~PCI2S550
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thanks Macboatmaster !!

i will leave it alone, maybe remove the card. either way i know what it is for, and it explains the warning at that port.

last question on updating my drivers....is it best to go into the device manager, then open each device, and try to update the drivers that way ?? or do you reccomend other ways of doing it ??


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You are welcome.
From my post 2

If any devices are indicated as requiring attention, then you should always obtain drivers from these sources
1. If the computer is branded and with the original equipment the manufacturers site eg. Dell Hp etc.
2. If it is not branded or hardware has been added the motherboard manufacturers site in the case of onboard sound device - ie not a separate sound card
3. The manufacturers site for the card/device.
4. As a last resort the generic driver from Realtek or whatever the device is.



So im summary, when you obtain the driver file, there are many times instructions for installing the driver,
If it is an exe file you download then it will automatically install without you being required to do anything else.
If it is NOT a self installing driver, then you go to Device Manager in most cases, you open the device, you click the driver tab you click update driver, you then choose the manual method, rather than alowing the wizard to search, you then select the location where you have downloaded the driver to and you select that location using the browse. Then the driver will install.

Some drivers, require the old driver to be uninstalled, from Add/Remove programs before the new driver is installed. Usually but not always, graphics drivers.

The fact there is a newer driver version does not always mean you NEED it, for instance Nvidia issues new versions of grpahics driver, for no other reason than to improve performance in gaming and eliminate a bug that has been found in certain games. EVEN if you had a high quality graphics card, there would still be no necessity for you to update your driver if you were not having problems.

Of FAR MORE importance are NOT drivers but updated versions of Flash Player , Adobe reader and JAVA outdated versions of these are a security risk.
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now i have a better understanding about the device drivers, and when i need to think about updating them.

i printed your instructions for future refference !!

my initial question has been answered / solved.

i thank you for your time and help !!

ron
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You are as I said more than welcome.
Anytime of course you need help just come back.
Just before I leave the topic did you see that WOT report for what I think may be that driver update you were using
If it is that stay away from it - is my advice.

NB Just sent you a PM about the bike
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Just before I leave the topic did you see that WOT report for what I think may be that driver update you were using
If it is that stay away from it - is my advice.



I USE THE "WOT" SERVICE TOO. I TOOK A LOOK AT THE LINK YOU POSTED. THEN I DID A GOOGLE SEARCH ON THE "SMART DRIVER UPDATER", I FOUND SOME SITES THAT "WOT" WARNED AGAINST THE DOWNLOAD SITE, AND FOUND OTHERS THAT "WOT" LABELED AS BEING OK ??

I WAS CONFUSED BY THE INFORMATION. I CONCLUDED THAT THE SITE THAT HAD THE DOWNLOAD WAS THE PROBLEM, COMPARED TO THE DOWNLOAD IT'S SELF. I GOT MY DOWNLOAD FOR THE "SMART DRIVER UPDATER" AT "CNET". CNET IS A PAIN TO USE BECAUSE OF ALL THE POP UPS AND OTHER HASSLES A PERSON HAS TO GO THROUGH TO GET TO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE A SAFE SITE FOR INFORMATION.

SINCE YOU'VE SUGGESTED THAT THE PROGRAM IT'S SELF, SIMPLY IS NOT A GOOD ONE TO BE USING, THEN I WILL DELETE IT AND BE DONE WITH IT.

I'VE ENJOYED WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT PC'S OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF MESSING UP MY COMPUTER, AND LOOSING ALL OF MY INFORMATION AGAIN. I HOPE TO KEEP LEARNING ABOUT THEM, AND TO KEEP MY COMPUTER PROTECTED, AND BACKED UP THE PROPER WAY.

THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MY NEXT POST, HOW TO KEEP MY PC BACKED UP, AND HOW TO RECOVER / RE-INSTALL THE BACKUP.

SORRY FOR ALL THE CAPITAL LETTERS, I JUST REALIZED IT :(

RON
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