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crpowell67

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I am starting a low budget computer build just need to know if these parts are compatible they are listed below from what I can tell they should be but want a second or third opinion.

cpu: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103936

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131657

Mem: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231460

I just received my case which is a cooler master elite 430 from newegg. I am only able to purchase one component a week so it will take me a month or so to finish. I am also using a rocketfish 500w power supply and a galaxy geforce 8400gs video card and do have plans on a new heatsink & fan down the road but gonna use stock for now.

Thanks in advance for any opinions
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For the best and most stable performance you should where possible purchase a CPU and Ram that have been tested and approved by the motherboard manufacturer, this is referred to as the QVL ( qualified vendors list ) understand though that there are too many products released for them all to be tested so other hardware will be compatible but not proven to be.

Your MBs QVL http://www.asus.com/...MD_AM3/M4A88TM/
The CPU is on the list but your proposed Ram is not, on a side note I strongly suggest that you replace your PSU with a reputable brand name that has the output that your system will need http://www.10stripe....d/psu/brand.php
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For the best and most stable performance you should where possible purchase a CPU and Ram that have been tested and approved by the motherboard manufacturer, this is referred to as the QVL ( qualified vendors list ) understand though that there are too many products released for them all to be tested so other hardware will be compatible but not proven to be.

Your MBs QVL http://www.asus.com/...MD_AM3/M4A88TM/
The CPU is on the list but your proposed Ram is not, on a side note I strongly suggest that you replace your PSU with a reputable brand name that has the output that your system will need http://www.10stripe....d/psu/brand.php


I ended up thinking about that and going to the motherboard site after I posted here and seen the cpu on the list but not the ram so I found some from the list I am getting.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231477
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I was wondering which set-up would be best...started looking around more and found these

Intel:
Motherboard- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813130603
CPU- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116397

or what I started with.

AMD:
Motherboard- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131657
CPU- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103936

I will also be using some parts I already have like.

PSU-Rocketfish 500w
Video card- either geforce 8400gs or a 9600 I have to.
I plan on buying a 500gb drive and a new optical drive

all this is going into a coolermaster elite 430 black case

and this is for my 11 year old son (a father / son project) and he likes to play game mostly team fortress 2 and counterstrike
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Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXM

Sorry I don`t see that particular Ram on the QVL (is it my eyesight)**

Out of the two options the AMD set-up is better, MB has onboard video and the CPU is faster.

I will look over your other parts and post back.

**Don`t forget you should not purchase a CPU or Ram until you have settled on a MB and confirmed compatibility.
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Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXM

Sorry I don`t see that particular Ram on the QVL (is it my eyesight)**

Out of the two options the AMD set-up is better, MB has onboard video and the CPU is faster.

I will look over your other parts and post back.

**Don`t forget you should not purchase a CPU or Ram until you have settled on a MB and confirmed compatibility.


about the ram When I looked in the memory/device support QVC it did not have it listed I downloaded the user manual for the motherboard and it had a QVC in it and it was listed in there the memory/device had Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBXM listed but the user manual had that and Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXM which is just 8GB instead of 4GB I believe
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HDD http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822236080 best price and warranty + 32MB Cache.
What brand and memory size are the 8400gs and 9600 video cards please.
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They are both nivida Gforce and 512 MBytes
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Performance wise the 8400gs is marginally better however it will not play most modern gamed at high settings, you would be better to upgrade to a decent video card that has 1GB of VRam as soon as you can as either of your present cards will bottleneck the performance of the CPU, Ram and new HDD.
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Okay after talking with people here this is what I have decided on...

video card - MSI N210-MD1G/D3 GeForce 210 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127515 (if it will work if not my 8400gs 512mb)

(I sent a email to asus to see if the video card will work waiting for response)

cpu - AMD Athlon II X3 460 Rana 3.4GHz - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103936

memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231477

After market fan and heatsink - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231477 (gonna add second fan) for push/pull

case - cooler master 430 black elite - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119227

Power supply - rocketfish 500w - http://www.rocketfis...RF-500WPS2.html (I already have this will most likley add a new one later)

Motherboard - ASUS M4A88T-M AM3 AMD 880G HDMI- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131657

This is for the low budget build!!
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Okay after talking with people here this is what I have decided on...

video card - MSI N210-MD1G/D3 GeForce 210 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127515 (if it will work if not my 8400gs 512mb)
See comment below concerning the heatsink and fan.

(I sent a email to asus to see if the video card will work waiting for response)

cpu - AMD Athlon II X3 460 Rana 3.4GHz - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103936

memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231477

After market fan and heatsink - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231477 (gonna add second fan) for push/pull ( Incorrect link ) Link to actual product http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103065
You do not need this as your processor is supplied with a stock heatsink and fan, in addition to this using anything other than the heatsink and fan supplied with your processor will void your warranty, AMD are clear on this

This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith.

Full article @ http://support.amd.c...earLimited.aspx
Cooling will be more efficient if you fit an exhaust vent at the rear of the case to expel hot air http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835103060 use the money saved to purchase a better video card.

case - cooler master 430 black elite - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119227

Power supply - rocketfish 500w - http://www.rocketfis...RF-500WPS2.html (I already have this will most likley add a new one later)

Motherboard - ASUS M4A88T-M AM3 AMD 880G HDMI- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131657

This is for the low budget build!!


Couple of video cards for you to consider http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127610 or http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814162067
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adding a better heatsink and fan is a must I have plans on doing a unlock since the MB has core unlocker to have the fourth core, might overclock to but amd's best for overclocking is only about 4GHz and staying stable so I need the bigger heatsink and fan.
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adding a better heatsink and fan is a must I have plans on doing a unlock since the MB has core unlocker to have the fourth core,

This is incorrect as the same stock HS and fan is also supplied with the AMD Athlon II X4 CPU.

might overclock to but amd's best for overclocking is only about 4GHz and staying stable so I need the bigger heatsink and fan.

Sorry but what you are suggesting is contradictory performance wise, from my post #10

you would be better to upgrade to a decent video card that has 1GB of VRam as soon as you can as either of your present cards will bottleneck the performance of the CPU, Ram and new HDD.

Your computer will only perform as good as your weakest component, the video card so if you do not upgrade it then I am sorry but you are going to be disappointed.
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Sorry but what you are suggesting is contradictory performance wise, from my post #10


how is it contradictory the new card is 1gb memory instead of 512mb like you said get a 1gb

and the heatsink and fan is more for the overclock

Edited by crpowell67, 17 March 2012 - 11:59 AM.

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Crossed wires here me thinks as you never said which card you had decided on so all I had to go on was what you stated earlier;

video card - MSI N210-MD1G/D3 GeForce 210 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127515 (if it will work if not my 8400gs 512mb)

The video cards that you presently have and the one at your link are slow so games will lag as a result, they may not even meet the Minimum System Requirements that most modern games demand and so will not work in any event.
Basically the above cards performance will not allow them to keep up with the faster CPU, Ram and HDD;

The card at your link;
Core Clock 589MHz
Memory Interface 64-bit

The least expensive that I suggested;
Core Clock 700MHz
Memory Interface 128-bit

The other option;
Core Clock 625MHz
Memory Interface 128-bit
Slower but has 2GB of VRam
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